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I don't know if this has been posted yet so if it has,  I' sorry.  The latest spin from shane and his ilk (already been repeated on  WJOX this AM) is that the FBI and Milton McGregor story is because Auburn football players were allowed to win jackpots at his bingo palors.  They are saying this is what is on the tapes.  Will they never learn??

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Wait..but...yesterday Shane said this was all about taking down Mike Slive...

But....but....but......

UA must have one helluva creative writing department.

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I've heard that, and about the Debit cards where players could get money from the Slush fund etc.  I also heard Wire taps were not even used in the McGregor investigation.  Shane and his cronies are taken as total Bafoons by all but the most toothless Bama fans

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I don't know if this has been posted yet so if it has,  I' sorry.   The latest spin from shane and his ilk (already been repeated on  WJOX this AM) is that the FBI and Milton McGregor story is because Auburn football players were allowed to win jackpots at his bingo palors.  They are saying this is what is on the tapes.   Will they never learn??

Anyone who takes as creditable anything Shane says needs therapy. Even PF doesn`t believe him. I can promise you Shane has no idea what is on any tapes other than his old 8 tracks. Maybe Shane should investigate the Rolando McClain story and see where that cover up leads since he has such great sources.

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Wait for it....

Slive is COVERING bank fraud and money laundering for Auburn to get his next national championship......

We paid big money for Dakota Mosley....

We were handing out "unmarked" ATM cards at Big Cat like candy....

We rigged bingo machines at Victoryland and let the recruits go hit them....(to me, THAT is the best one!)

And the latest....Michael Dyer is shopping for a transfer.  

Many are hanging their hats on something Pat Dye said....DURING ALBERT MEANS!  He commented on Finebaum that the $200k they paid for Means was "quarterback money".  They have taken that and ran like Dye said it yesterday!

Oh, and the NCAA and SEC were at LSU Wednesday and went ahead and told Les Miles he would go to the SEC Championship game cause all our wins were about to be vacated....

All of this originated on Tiger Droppings, if that tells you anything.

*sigh*

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As Shane says he "just connecting the dots", only problem is that he has to make up a few dots of his own to make them connect.  Everything that he comes up with is not based any fact it is all just fantasy.

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How about this garbage? Found this on the corndog board...........

Take this for what it is worth. I'm just an old guy who knows little and remembers even less, but I've been around enough times to know what to believe and what not to believe.

I've been reading this forum off and on, but have never posted here. I don't plan on posting here again, but I do want to make my one post count.

To begin, those of you who are jumping ship because there is no damning evidence thus far, man up and be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day, and the barn won't burn faster just because you want it to. Trust me, though- it will burn.

My credentials are this: I know people who are in position to know things because I used to be one of those "in the know". I was involved in the initial investigation at SMU, not as a University official but as an NCAA pencil pusher. Right now, I have one son teaching at UAT and another in the athletic department at Auburn (I also have a cousin who was once employed by Auburn, but he has since cut ties with them after a falling out a few years ago). Finally, my neighbor and closest friend started as a CART agent with the FBI and does work with AccessData's FTK on the side (he's the guy who proves you visited those websites you lied to your wife about). I say all of that to say this: I consider myself well-connected. That does not mean, however, that I will defend to the death my sources. Anyone offering "insider" information, unless they are actively involved, is only doing so out of good faith to their sources and a belief that they can contribute in some way. This is where I stand.

(1)Cam Newton: Unless he stands at a podium and flashes cash, he's playing against Bama. However, his ineligibility is guaranteed. Auburn knows this, the SEC knows this, the NCAA knows this, and Cam (should) know this. This is the least of Auburn's worries because,

(2) Auburn is going down. Cam is essentially a diversion. Let me repeat myself again: CAM Is ESSENTIALLY A DIVERSION. There was a slush fund, and this fund was accessed by Auburn players through ATM cards. The paper trail will show this. The FBI is offering unbelievable deals for those who talk. Unfortunately, those in the know have to keep hush-hush while people are talking because this is a federal investigation, which is why

(3) This has taken so long. It is a process, people. The NCAA and others are not just sitting on their thumbs. It's like being in line at McDonald's- no matter how fast you want to move, you have to wait on the folks in front of you. Auburn knows this, and the mood in the Barn offices is gloomy at best. There is concern over heavy, heavy penalties, including loss of SACS and the NCAA Death Penalty. However,

(4) Auburn will not be given the Death Penalty, and it's extremely unlikely that it will lose SACS. The Alabama legislature and governor are willing to do whatever it takes to keep Auburn open and funded. The last time Auburn was in trouble with SACS, the governor begged for them to be spared. That won't work this time, but that is because the Alabama legislature is going to

(5) Clean house at Auburn. The BOT will be made up of congressman (if certain folks have their way), and no one other than academic deans will retain administrative positions. The state of Alabama, UAT, and the SEC NEED Auburn open, which is partly why

(6) Auburn will (almost certainly) not receive the Death Penalty. This is the only part of my information that I wish I felt more comfortable about. There is talk among those in the NCAA office of TV blackouts, scholly reductions in the 50+ (over at least 4 years) range, limits on assistants, and a revocation of almost all recruiting rights. Monstrous fines will be levied as well. This brings me to my last point,

(7) Most of the Auburn folks were grossly unaware of any of this. Chizik's reputation is dead amongst many boosters and faculty. There was a meeting at an airport to discuss what everyone (boosters, admins, etc.) knew, and as the meeting went on, anger turned to fear, fear turned to rage, and rage turned into disbelief. It was during this meeting that possible implications on SACS was brought up, during which point near panic ensued. The Auburn folks are waiting on the hammer, when they should be preparing for the bomb.

So, take all of this with a grain (or truckload) of salt. I won't post again, so don't post anything expecting a reply from me. Forget about all of this crap with "a big story coming in X days"- there is no timetable for this. Expect this to go slowly, and expect Auburn to finish its season with no NCAA/SEC intervention. Once again, I am passing along information that I trust- what you do with it is your choice.

Respectfully yours,

G. Franklin

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I'm not sure where they're getting their "FBI information."  I've known several field agents and they don't share information about federal investigations.  I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI investigation and Cam issues never crossed paths.  Someone who says they have a friend close to the FBI who said ... is:

1) Lying, attempting to fill in the blanks with what they hope is true

2) Going to send their FBI friend on to the FBI dungeon.  FBI agents don't just lose their job for leaking information, they can go to jail.

Anyone who makes this claim may get a visit from the FBI.  They don't like leaks in federal vote buying and RICO investigations.  I also feel they are not going to take kindly to agitators accusing them of covering up evidence (that really never existed in the first place) to protect Auburn.  Open mouth, insert foot.  

As a little more information is starting to filter out, I am beginning to disconnect the dots.  Campus lockdowns, FBI investigations, and other events that occurred concurrently nay or may not be related.  I am, however, quite pleased with the general feel of the direction this is all taking.  I have appreciated AUFan, Chaotic, the mods, and so many others who have developed well thought out theories.  Now it's time to let it all play out.  IMHO

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As per Shane...

We are admonished to accept the feeble minded, and to take them where they are...

Did anyone ever wander what happened to Forrest Gump's son....

Rumor has it that he grew up to be a pseudo-conspiratorist-journalist from Center-point...  :)

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Other than a whiny moron whose claim to fame is regular appearances on F-Bomb, who is SHANE? Is he a bammer alum, or just another WAL-MART shopper?

shane :beatmullet:

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This is the best time to listen to Finebaum.  I just want to get some popcorn out and listen to the theatrics from the conspiracy theorists...  It'll all be over shortly and it will be fine for AU.  Keep the faith!!!  Just my two cents.

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I'm not sure where they're getting their "FBI information."  I've known several field agents and they don't share information about federal investigations.  I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI investigation and Cam issues never crossed paths.  Someone who says they have a friend close to the FBI who said ... is:

1) Lying, attempting to fill in the blanks with what they hope is true

2) Going to send their FBI friend on to the FBI dungeon.  FBI agents don't just lose their job for leaking information, they can go to jail.

Anyone who makes this claim may get a visit from the FBI.  They don't like leaks in federal vote buying and RICO investigations.  I also feel they are not going to take kindly to agitators accusing them of covering up evidence (that really never existed in the first place) to protect Auburn.  Open mouth, insert foot.  

As a little more information is starting to filter out, I am beginning to disconnect the dots.  Campus lockdowns, FBI investigations, and other events that occurred concurrently nay or may not be related.  I am, however, quite pleased with the general feel of the direction this is all taking.  I have appreciated AUFan, Chaotic, the mods, and so many others who have developed well thought out theories.  Now it's time to let it all play out.  IMHO

I'm really beginning to believe the FBI and Cam saga may not be directly related either. 

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Wait for it....

Slive is COVERING bank fraud and money laundering for Auburn to get his next national championship......

We paid big money for Dakota Mosley....

We were handing out "unmarked" ATM cards at Big Cat like candy....

We rigged bingo machines at Victoryland and let the recruits go hit them....(to me, THAT is the best one!)

And the latest....Michael Dyer is shopping for a transfer.  

Many are hanging their hats on something Pat Dye said....DURING ALBERT MEANS!  He commented on Finebaum that the $200k they paid for Means was "quarterback money".  They have taken that and ran like Dye said it yesterday!

Oh, and the NCAA and SEC were at LSU Wednesday and went ahead and told Les Miles he would go to the SEC Championship game cause all our wins were about to be vacated....

All of this originated on Tiger Droppings, if that tells you anything.

*sigh*

How about this garbage? Found this on the corndog board...........

Take this for what it is worth. I'm just an old guy who knows little and remembers even less, but I've been around enough times to know what to believe and what not to believe.

I've been reading this forum off and on, but have never posted here. I don't plan on posting here again, but I do want to make my one post count.

To begin, those of you who are jumping ship because there is no damning evidence thus far, man up and be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day, and the barn won't burn faster just because you want it to. Trust me, though- it will burn.

My credentials are this: I know people who are in position to know things because I used to be one of those "in the know". I was involved in the initial investigation at SMU, not as a University official but as an NCAA pencil pusher. Right now, I have one son teaching at UAT and another in the athletic department at Auburn (I also have a cousin who was once employed by Auburn, but he has since cut ties with them after a falling out a few years ago). Finally, my neighbor and closest friend started as a CART agent with the FBI and does work with AccessData's FTK on the side (he's the guy who proves you visited those websites you lied to your wife about). I say all of that to say this: I consider myself well-connected. That does not mean, however, that I will defend to the death my sources. Anyone offering "insider" information, unless they are actively involved, is only doing so out of good faith to their sources and a belief that they can contribute in some way. This is where I stand.

(1)Cam Newton: Unless he stands at a podium and flashes cash, he's playing against Bama. However, his ineligibility is guaranteed. Auburn knows this, the SEC knows this, the NCAA knows this, and Cam (should) know this. This is the least of Auburn's worries because,

(2) Auburn is going down. Cam is essentially a diversion. Let me repeat myself again: CAM Is ESSENTIALLY A DIVERSION. There was a slush fund, and this fund was accessed by Auburn players through ATM cards. The paper trail will show this. The FBI is offering unbelievable deals for those who talk. Unfortunately, those in the know have to keep hush-hush while people are talking because this is a federal investigation, which is why

(3) This has taken so long. It is a process, people. The NCAA and others are not just sitting on their thumbs. It's like being in line at McDonald's- no matter how fast you want to move, you have to wait on the folks in front of you. Auburn knows this, and the mood in the Barn offices is gloomy at best. There is concern over heavy, heavy penalties, including loss of SACS and the NCAA Death Penalty. However,

(4) Auburn will not be given the Death Penalty, and it's extremely unlikely that it will lose SACS. The Alabama legislature and governor are willing to do whatever it takes to keep Auburn open and funded. The last time Auburn was in trouble with SACS, the governor begged for them to be spared. That won't work this time, but that is because the Alabama legislature is going to

(5) Clean house at Auburn. The BOT will be made up of congressman (if certain folks have their way), and no one other than academic deans will retain administrative positions. The state of Alabama, UAT, and the SEC NEED Auburn open, which is partly why

(6) Auburn will (almost certainly) not receive the Death Penalty. This is the only part of my information that I wish I felt more comfortable about. There is talk among those in the NCAA office of TV blackouts, scholly reductions in the 50+ (over at least 4 years) range, limits on assistants, and a revocation of almost all recruiting rights. Monstrous fines will be levied as well. This brings me to my last point,

(7) Most of the Auburn folks were grossly unaware of any of this. Chizik's reputation is dead amongst many boosters and faculty. There was a meeting at an airport to discuss what everyone (boosters, admins, etc.) knew, and as the meeting went on, anger turned to fear, fear turned to rage, and rage turned into disbelief. It was during this meeting that possible implications on SACS was brought up, during which point near panic ensued. The Auburn folks are waiting on the hammer, when they should be preparing for the bomb.

So, take all of this with a grain (or truckload) of salt. I won't post again, so don't post anything expecting a reply from me. Forget about all of this crap with "a big story coming in X days"- there is no timetable for this. Expect this to go slowly, and expect Auburn to finish its season with no NCAA/SEC intervention. Once again, I am passing along information that I trust- what you do with it is your choice.

Respectfully yours,

G. Franklin

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Forrest Gump has children everywhere!

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What do casinos and ATM machines have in common???

CAMERAS

:we:

Princess,

Welcome to AE!

You have come to the right place for therapy...

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How about this garbage? Found this on the corndog board...........

Take this for what it is worth. I'm just an old guy who knows little and remembers even less, but I've been around enough times to know what to believe and what not to believe.

I've been reading this forum off and on, but have never posted here. I don't plan on posting here again, but I do want to make my one post count.

To begin, those of you who are jumping ship because there is no damning evidence thus far, man up and be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day, and the barn won't burn faster just because you want it to. Trust me, though- it will burn.

My credentials are this: I know people who are in position to know things because I used to be one of those "in the know". I was involved in the initial investigation at SMU, not as a University official but as an NCAA pencil pusher. Right now, I have one son teaching at UAT and another in the athletic department at Auburn (I also have a cousin who was once employed by Auburn, but he has since cut ties with them after a falling out a few years ago). Finally, my neighbor and closest friend started as a CART agent with the FBI and does work with AccessData's FTK on the side (he's the guy who proves you visited those websites you lied to your wife about). I say all of that to say this: I consider myself well-connected. That does not mean, however, that I will defend to the death my sources. Anyone offering "insider" information, unless they are actively involved, is only doing so out of good faith to their sources and a belief that they can contribute in some way. This is where I stand.

(1)Cam Newton: Unless he stands at a podium and flashes cash, he's playing against Bama. However, his ineligibility is guaranteed. Auburn knows this, the SEC knows this, the NCAA knows this, and Cam (should) know this. This is the least of Auburn's worries because,

(2) Auburn is going down. Cam is essentially a diversion. Let me repeat myself again: CAM Is ESSENTIALLY A DIVERSION. There was a slush fund, and this fund was accessed by Auburn players through ATM cards. The paper trail will show this. The FBI is offering unbelievable deals for those who talk. Unfortunately, those in the know have to keep hush-hush while people are talking because this is a federal investigation, which is why

(3) This has taken so long. It is a process, people. The NCAA and others are not just sitting on their thumbs. It's like being in line at McDonald's- no matter how fast you want to move, you have to wait on the folks in front of you. Auburn knows this, and the mood in the Barn offices is gloomy at best. There is concern over heavy, heavy penalties, including loss of SACS and the NCAA Death Penalty. However,

(4) Auburn will not be given the Death Penalty, and it's extremely unlikely that it will lose SACS. The Alabama legislature and governor are willing to do whatever it takes to keep Auburn open and funded. The last time Auburn was in trouble with SACS, the governor begged for them to be spared. That won't work this time, but that is because the Alabama legislature is going to

(5) Clean house at Auburn. The BOT will be made up of congressman (if certain folks have their way), and no one other than academic deans will retain administrative positions. The state of Alabama, UAT, and the SEC NEED Auburn open, which is partly why

(6) Auburn will (almost certainly) not receive the Death Penalty. This is the only part of my information that I wish I felt more comfortable about. There is talk among those in the NCAA office of TV blackouts, scholly reductions in the 50+ (over at least 4 years) range, limits on assistants, and a revocation of almost all recruiting rights. Monstrous fines will be levied as well. This brings me to my last point,

(7) Most of the Auburn folks were grossly unaware of any of this. Chizik's reputation is dead amongst many boosters and faculty. There was a meeting at an airport to discuss what everyone (boosters, admins, etc.) knew, and as the meeting went on, anger turned to fear, fear turned to rage, and rage turned into disbelief. It was during this meeting that possible implications on SACS was brought up, during which point near panic ensued. The Auburn folks are waiting on the hammer, when they should be preparing for the bomb.

So, take all of this with a grain (or truckload) of salt. I won't post again, so don't post anything expecting a reply from me. Forget about all of this crap with "a big story coming in X days"- there is no timetable for this. Expect this to go slowly, and expect Auburn to finish its season with no NCAA/SEC intervention. Once again, I am passing along information that I trust- what you do with it is your choice.

Respectfully yours,

G. Franklin

WOW!  Someone who has UAT and AU sources and worked for the NCAA knows the whole scoop!!!  Whodathunkit???

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