Open Thread Regarding ISIS

[homersapien 11,374]

Post #117:

And the only "moderator" :-\ who's contributions can get a thread deleted weighs in once again.

Apparently this thread has run it's course.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

WT.......don't you know progressives never lie. They can't because they think they are always right and can't do anything but throw around a lot of BS and call other posters names.

[WarTim 3,456]

Sad but true...

[Tigermike 3,029]

It's not bigotry, Ben. Islam is today's communism because of terrorists and their desire for domination over others and blood spilled by the infidel. We expects adults to "grow up" in America but we seem to give others a pass. Why is that? Shouldn't we expect these people to move on and stop killing innocence and embrace life?

Should we start by kicking all Muslims out of Auburn University? How about closing their mosques?

Should we deport them? Even if they are citizens?

WTF are you talking about? I'm talking about the middle east and ISIS......

I am talking about your sentence above. You said Islam, not ISIS.

And that followed your comment to Ben, thus making it clear you were talking about Islam in general. (Surely you didn't think Ben was referring to bigotry toward ISIS did you?)

Yeah none of that was done in the name of Islam was it?

Which proves all Muslims are terrorists? Is that your deduction?

The only one who keeps bringing up ALL Muslims is you.

Well everyone except War Tim uses more indirect language, like referring to Islam instead of Islamists (for example), or in the case of EMT above, which he may or may not have really meant.

(You didn't answer the question. Why is that?)

I think you are a fool for trying to make it about all Muslims.

I am not trying to make it about "all Muslims" You and your buddies are. (And I include you, because being the coy little weasel you are, you won't deny it.)

And you call me the fool? :rolleyes:/>

You are a fool.

[Tigermike 3,029]

http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/20/qa-terrorist-group-really-scarier-isis

[homersapien 11,374]

I am not trying to make it about "all Muslims" You and your buddies are. (And I include you, because being the coy little weasel you are, you won't deny it.)

And you call me the fool? :rolleyes:/>

You are a fool.

[WarTim 3,456]

TigerMike, well said. This poor soul can't see the LOG in his eye because he is too busy pointing out the splinter in yours. Typical and daily practice of libs...

[homersapien 11,374]

Once again Tiger Mike and Tim join forces to embarrass the forum.

Thanks guys!

[WarTim 3,456]

Once again Tiger Mike and Tim join forces to embarrass the forum.

Thanks guys! :no:/>

Not the forum. Only you......

[autigeremt 6,630]

It's not bigotry, Ben. Islam is today's communism because of terrorists and their desire for domination over others and blood spilled by the infidel. We expects adults to "grow up" in America but we seem to give others a pass. Why is that? Shouldn't we expect these people to move on and stop killing innocence and embrace life?

Should we start by kicking all Muslims out of Auburn University? How about closing their mosques?

Should we deport them? Even if they are citizens?

WTF are you talking about? I'm talking about the middle east and ISIS......

I am talking about your sentence above. You said Islam, not ISIS.

And that followed your comment to Ben, thus making it clear you were talking about Islam in general. (Surely you didn't think Ben was referring to bigotry toward ISIS did you?)

Yeah none of that was done in the name of Islam was it?

Which proves all Muslims are terrorists? Is that your deduction?

The only one who keeps bringing up ALL Muslims is you.

Well everyone except War Tim uses more indirect language, like referring to Islam instead of Islamists (for example), or in the case of EMT above, which he may or may not have really meant.

(You didn't answer the question. Why is that?)

Because your last statement didn't deserve it. I meant what I said....Islam (in comparison) is today's communism (not all Russians were bad people but they were represented by an oppressive regime). If you need a better explanation than this go find it somewhere else. I'm not interested in your pathetic attempt to pigeon hole me as a bigot or racist.

My last post to you said:

I am talking about your sentence above. You said Islam, not ISIS.

And that followed your comment to Ben, thus making it clear you were talking about Islam in general. (Surely you didn't think Ben was referring to bigotry toward ISIS did you?)

That was in response to you asking me wtf I was talking about. So I explained my conclusion and asked for clarification.

So why not just clarify? :dunno:/>. I even gave you credit for maybe not meaning what I inferred, because I was waiting for your clarification.

I don't understand why you are now so offended nor do I understand why you and Tigermike find it so offensive or difficult to simply say "no, I didn't mean all Muslims". Or no, "I don't think all Muslims are terrorists". For chrissakes, we just had a thread deleted at least partly because people were saying that outright! Now you act like you want to protect the ambiguity and simply imply it without owning up to it.

You can easily use language that doesn't infer you mean all of them. It's not hard. In most cases, just substitute "Islamists" for "Islam". Stop equating ISIS or terrorists or Islamists with "Islam" or "Muslims" in general.

I am starting to sense maybe you and Tigermike really do think all Muslims are terrorists/potential terrorists/supporters of terrorism by definition, but you just don't want to admit it.

Is that the case?

If so, assuming both you and TM are Christians, I suppose I can conclude this sort of religious bigotry is Christian. Christianity requires Christians to hate Muslims. Right?

#1. What difference does is make if you think or believe what we believe? You're going to judge us anyway.

#2. I think 25-30% of Muslims worldwide believe in the caliphate....no matter the costs. The rest of them are all over the place like any other large, widespread religion. 25-30% of 1.5 billion is a lot of people. Once you give that many people hope in advancing their agenda it can grow due to pressures and a sense of allegiance by the rest.

1. I just wanted to verify you meant what it sounded like you meant. Why not confirm or correct my impression, isn't this a political forum?

2. Interesting estimate. Do you have any research to justify those numbers? And how are they distributed globally? Do you think 25-30% of U.S. Muslims support a caliphate?

But even so, that would mean 70-75% don't believe in having caliphate, so why lump all Muslims together with your terminology?

I didn't lump them together......YOU did! I do BELIEVE 25-30% of Muslims believe in, and support, a caliphate. Some to the point of blowing themselves up for it. If you want to meet me across the street after recess let me know the time. I'll be there! :)/>

[autigeremt 6,630]

Once again Tiger Mike and Tim join forces to embarrass the forum.

Thanks guys! :no:/>

You have a few victories yourself, homer.

[WarTim 3,456]

It's not bigotry, Ben. Islam is today's communism because of terrorists and their desire for domination over others and blood spilled by the infidel. We expects adults to "grow up" in America but we seem to give others a pass. Why is that? Shouldn't we expect these people to move on and stop killing innocence and embrace life?

Should we start by kicking all Muslims out of Auburn University? How about closing their mosques?

Should we deport them? Even if they are citizens?

WTF are you talking about? I'm talking about the middle east and ISIS......

I am talking about your sentence above. You said Islam, not ISIS.

And that followed your comment to Ben, thus making it clear you were talking about Islam in general. (Surely you didn't think Ben was referring to bigotry toward ISIS did you?)

Yeah none of that was done in the name of Islam was it?

Which proves all Muslims are terrorists? Is that your deduction?

The only one who keeps bringing up ALL Muslims is you.

Well everyone except War Tim uses more indirect language, like referring to Islam instead of Islamists (for example), or in the case of EMT above, which he may or may not have really meant.

(You didn't answer the question. Why is that?)

Because your last statement didn't deserve it. I meant what I said....Islam (in comparison) is today's communism (not all Russians were bad people but they were represented by an oppressive regime). If you need a better explanation than this go find it somewhere else. I'm not interested in your pathetic attempt to pigeon hole me as a bigot or racist.

My last post to you said:

I am talking about your sentence above. You said Islam, not ISIS.

And that followed your comment to Ben, thus making it clear you were talking about Islam in general. (Surely you didn't think Ben was referring to bigotry toward ISIS did you?)

That was in response to you asking me wtf I was talking about. So I explained my conclusion and asked for clarification.

So why not just clarify? :dunno:/>. I even gave you credit for maybe not meaning what I inferred, because I was waiting for your clarification.

I don't understand why you are now so offended nor do I understand why you and Tigermike find it so offensive or difficult to simply say "no, I didn't mean all Muslims". Or no, "I don't think all Muslims are terrorists". For chrissakes, we just had a thread deleted at least partly because people were saying that outright! Now you act like you want to protect the ambiguity and simply imply it without owning up to it.

You can easily use language that doesn't infer you mean all of them. It's not hard. In most cases, just substitute "Islamists" for "Islam". Stop equating ISIS or terrorists or Islamists with "Islam" or "Muslims" in general.

I am starting to sense maybe you and Tigermike really do think all Muslims are terrorists/potential terrorists/supporters of terrorism by definition, but you just don't want to admit it.

Is that the case?

If so, assuming both you and TM are Christians, I suppose I can conclude this sort of religious bigotry is Christian. Christianity requires Christians to hate Muslims. Right?

#1. What difference does is make if you think or believe what we believe? You're going to judge us anyway.

#2. I think 25-30% of Muslims worldwide believe in the caliphate....no matter the costs. The rest of them are all over the place like any other large, widespread religion. 25-30% of 1.5 billion is a lot of people. Once you give that many people hope in advancing their agenda it can grow due to pressures and a sense of allegiance by the rest.

1. I just wanted to verify you meant what it sounded like you meant. Why not confirm or correct my impression, isn't this a political forum?

2. Interesting estimate. Do you have any research to justify those numbers? And how are they distributed globally? Do you think 25-30% of U.S. Muslims support a caliphate?

But even so, that would mean 70-75% don't believe in having caliphate, so why lump all Muslims together with your terminology?

I didn't lump them together......YOU did! I do BELIEVE 25-30% of Muslims believe in, and support, a caliphate. Some to the point of blowing themselves up for it. If you want to meet me across the street after recess let me know the time. I'll be there! :)/>

Coward that he is, he would run and jump on the back seat of the bus behind a little girl with pony tails.......great post by the way!!!

[Raven_tiger 5]

Where are the "moderate" muslims? Where are the demonstrations against the barbarism that is ISIS???

[Raven_tiger 5]

Muslim survey:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/347095/huge-flaw-pew-survey-muslim-views-about-sharia

[WarTim 3,456]

Where are the "moderate" muslims? Where are the demonstrations against the barbarism that is ISIS???

Bingo! Yahtzee!

[homersapien 11,374]

Once again Tiger Mike and Tim join forces to embarrass the forum.

Thanks guys! :no:/>

You have a few victories yourself, homer.

Name one.

[homersapien 11,374]

Once again Tiger Mike and Tim join forces to embarrass the forum.

Thanks guys! :no:/>

Not the forum. Only you......

As if.....

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

Where are the "moderate" muslims? Where are the demonstrations against the barbarism that is ISIS???

That was covered in another thread actually, and it contained several links to different Muslim organizations that were speaking out against ISIS.

[AUUSN 823]

Where are the "moderate" muslims? Where are the demonstrations against the barbarism that is ISIS???

Stop applying Western logic to a Middle Eastern issue. But since you asked...

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[autigeremt 6,630]

Once again Tiger Mike and Tim join forces to embarrass the forum.

Thanks guys! :no:/>

You have a few victories yourself, homer.

Name one.

Don't have time to dig through the needles.

[WarTim 3,456]

Iraqi politics? All one need do is watch WH press briefing. Same exact type Lies...

[AUUSN 823]

Iraqi politics? All one need do is watch WH press briefing. Same exact type Lies...

[homersapien 11,374]

Where are the "moderate" muslims? Where are the demonstrations against the barbarism that is ISIS???

That was covered in another thread actually, and it contained several links to different Muslim organizations that were speaking out against ISIS.

If it ain't on Fox, it ain't true.

[WarTim 3,456]

Maybe there is some hope for you.......

[AUUSN 823]

ISIS kills 300 Iraqi soldiers by chlorine gas attack in Saqlawiyah

On Monday several Members of Parliament from Diwaniyah Province confirmed that ISIS killed over 300 soldiers using chlorine gas for the first time in Saqlawiyah, north of Fallujah.

Islamic Dawa party MP Ali al-Badri said, at a press conference at the parliament building in the presence of a number of deputies of Diwaniyah province and attended by IraqiNews.com that “the terrorist organization ISIS used chlorine gas for the first time in the region of Saqlawiyah after trapping more than 400 troops, resulting in the deaths of many of them due to suffocation while the terrorist gangs detonated car bombs within the brigade headquarters.”

Badri said, “We hold the full responsibility for the fate of the trapped soldiers to the Commanding General of the Armed Forces, Haider Abadi, and the security leaders, especially the Anbar Operations Chief, Lt. Gen. Rashid Flaih, because of the slow measures taken by the Air Force despite frequent appeals for rapid procedures to rescue the soldiers since several days ago.”

Badri added that the “Saqlawiyah crime is considered as the second Speicher Massacre,” stressing that “300 soldiers were killed in the attack.”

http://www.iraqinews...ack-saqlawiyah/