Obama Loses Round One

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

AUtiger98....I think if you watch you will quickly see who the posters are that are hypocritical and regularly call other posters names or sling unwarranted insults.

[AUDub 11,147]

" I ridicule you for two reasons. First, you watch Fox and are unable to distinguish between the actual news and the propaganda. Second, because you are disgrace to humanity."

This is funny for several reasons but most importantly because it shows how emotional you can get over using false information. I see no reason to ridicule you but i do have moments when I pity your dumb ass. I definitely know a dumb ass when I see one. You quote Think Progress as fact but accuse others of being influenced by propaganda. I also find it typical of your liberal magical thinking that you "know" what I watch on TV, presumably, you people just "know" everything. LOLAY

Tone it down, everyone.

But especially you. Don't get vulgar.

Oh, and your fallacy is the genetic fallacy. The Think Progress article has merit.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

" I ridicule you for two reasons. First, you watch Fox and are unable to distinguish between the actual news and the propaganda. Second, because you are disgrace to humanity."

This is funny for several reasons but most importantly because it shows how emotional you can get over using false information. I see no reason to ridicule you but i do have moments when I pity your dumb ass. I definitely know a dumb ass when I see one. You quote Think Progress as fact but accuse others of being influenced by propaganda. I also find it typical of your liberal magical thinking that you "know" what I watch on TV, presumably, you people just "know" everything. LOLAY

You should refrain from call anyone a dumb ass until you learn to read. Think Progress?

[icanthearyou 4,462]

http://www.salon.com...lified_himself/

The legal wrangling over President Obama’s recently announced executive actions on immigration got off to an early and unexpected start yesterday when Judge Arthur Schwab, a district court judge in Pennsylvania, declared Obama’s actions to be unlawful.

Nobody saw this coming because no one actually asked Schwab to weigh in on Obama’s immigration action – he just up and did it on his own, because that’s what judges do, right? They judge things. And so, in a 38-page opinion on the sentencing of an undocumented Honduran immigrant arrested for drunk driving, Judge Schwab laid out his abbreviated take on one of the more controversial presidential actions in recent memory, declaring it “unconstitutional.” But, despite declaring it unlawful, Schwab declined to invalidate the order. “Given that no party was challenging the lawfulness of the President’s action,” writes Jonathan Adler at the Washington Post, “it’s not clear what authority the court would have had to invalidate the policy.”

You should read Elise Foley’s and Ryan Grim’s dive into Schwab’s background to get a sense of why Schwab would set himself on this bizarre path toward confrontation with the president. Basically, Schwab (appointed to the bench by George W. Bush at the recommendation of then-Sen. Rick Santorum) is a conservative crank who is viewed as overly partisan (even for the federal judiciary) and has been disciplined in the past for issues of bias and temperament.

And Schwab pretty clearly went into this with an agenda. He wasted several pages of the opinion quoting Obama’s past statements on how the president can’t change immigration policy unilaterally. While those quotes are politically inconvenient for Obama, they don’t actually say anything about the legality of the president’s actions – which Schwab himself acknowledges: “While President Obama’s historic statements are not dispositive of the constitutionality of his Executive Action on immigration, they cause this Court pause.”

His legal critique of the president’s proposed program encompasses all of five pages, with no precedents cited to back up his claims of presidential overreach. It was as if Schwab, in building his case against the constitutionality of Obama’s executive action, skimmed a few conservative blogs, copy-and-pasted a few old Obama quotes, and called it a day. “Judge Schwab traveled far along a very thin branch to reach this decision,” ThinkProgress’ Ian Millhiser writes, “and he anchored his decision with little grounding in legal authorities.” Basically, it is a political argument masquerading as a legal opinion.

And there’s no better proof of that than the fact that dimwit conservative pundits are celebrating Schwab’s argument for the way it tracks with their own thinking. “It almost could’ve been written by me,” said Fox News’ Sean Hannity, delivering a stronger indictment of Schwab than anything I could hope to muster. “He makes the very arguments that I had been making the entire time.”

Ideally, the federal judiciary should operate at a level of argumentation that is slightly above that of cable news punditry. But as it stands, Schwab’s ruling will stand out as a landmark moment in American history: the first time the courts have Hannitized a sitting president.

Refutations provided by Think Progress and you ridicule people for watching Fox News. LOL Hypocrite much?

I do not ridicule all people who watch Fox. I have cited Fox in the past. I ridicule you for two reasons. First, you watch Fox and are unable to distinguish between the actual news and the propaganda. Second, because you are disgrace to humanity.

You invite ridicule. You deserve ridicule.

Does anyone else see the trend of liberals getting personal with their attacks and start name calling around Happy Hour? Just Saying.

Just because someone does not parrot the popular "conservative" tripe, doesn't make them a liberal.

[MDM4AU 332]

This opinion means nothing. It's not binding. We will see another judge give an opposing opinion probably before the end of the year. All this will inevitably do is fast track a SCOTUS decision.

[homersapien 11,367]

Refutations provided by Think Progress and you ridicule people for watching Fox News. LOL Hypocrite much?

I do not ridicule all people who watch Fox. I have cited Fox in the past. I ridicule you for two reasons. First, you watch Fox and are unable to distinguish between the actual news and the propaganda. Second, because you are disgrace to humanity.

You invite ridicule. You deserve ridicule.

Does anyone else see the trend of liberals getting personal with their attacks and start name calling around Happy Hour? Just Saying.

Whereas Blue is more of a "24/7" bile spewer.

[WarTim 3,456]

libs claim Fox News is "biased"....ALL other networks ARE lib Meccas.... Libs-"nature's idiots"

[homersapien 11,367]

" I ridicule you for two reasons. First, you watch Fox and are unable to distinguish between the actual news and the propaganda. Second, because you are disgrace to humanity."

This is funny for several reasons but most importantly because it shows how emotional you can get over using false information. I see no reason to ridicule you but i do have moments when I pity your dumb ass. I definitely know a dumb ass when I see one. You quote Think Progress as fact but accuse others of being influenced by propaganda. I also find it typical of your liberal magical thinking that you "know" what I watch on TV, presumably, you people just "know" everything. LOLAY

I think I see your problem here.

ICHY didn't quote "Think Progress as fact". (Which makes no sense anyway.)

He posted facts published by Think Progress, plus some obviously partisan commentary. (After all, "Think Progress" doesn't claim to be "fair and balanced" :-\ )

If you have a problem with any of the facts, refute them with evidence. (This is your big chance to back up your speech. For once.)

If you have a problem with the partisan commentary, TS. (As they say.)

[AUDub 11,147]

libs claim Fox News is "biased"....ALL other networks ARE lib Meccas.... Libs-"nature's idiots"

You remind me a lot of AUisAll. I'd suspect your situation would be very similar to his current predicament if you weren't a mod.

(Trying to send a message here. The blanket statements of stupidity are getting old.)

[homersapien 11,367]

libs claim Fox News is "biased"....ALL other networks ARE lib Meccas.... Libs-"nature's idiots"

You remind me a lot of AUisAll. I'd suspect your situation would be very similar to his current predicament if you weren't a mod.

(Trying to send a message here. The blanket statements of stupidity are getting old.)

I can't believe this guy is a "moderator". :-\