Media Preseason All-SEC Team

[TigerFreak 6]

OFFENSE

First-Team

QB Dak Prescott, Mississippi State (170)

RB Nick Chubb, Georgia (189)

RB Leonard Fournette, LSU (180)

WR Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss (169)

WR D'haquille Williams, Auburn (154)

TE Evan Engram, Ole Miss (128)

OL Cam Robinson, Alabama (167)

OL Laremy Tunsil, Ole Miss (159)

OL Vadal Alexander, LSU (131)

OL John Theus, Georgia (129)

C Ryan Kelly, Alabama (144)

Second-Team

QB Jeremy Johnson, Auburn (89)

RB Derrick Henry, Alabama (151)

RB Jonathan Williams, Arkansas (82)

WR Pharoh Cooper, South Carolina (147)

WR De'Runnya Wilson, Mississippi State (59)

TE Hunter Henry, Arkansas (97)

OL Germain Ifedi, Texas A&M (124)

OL Dan Skipper, Arkansas (95)

OL Denver Kirkland, Arkansas (85)

OL Greg Pyke, Georgia (83)

C Mike Matthews, Texas A&M (108)

Third-Team

QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee (62)

RB Alex Collins, Arkansas (80)

RB Kenyan Drake, Alabama (34)

WR Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia (50)

WR Josh Reynolds, Texas A&M (39)

TE O.J. Howard, Alabama (87)

OL Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas (72)

OL Alex Kozan, Auburn (69)

OL Avery Young, Auburn (57)

OL Brandon Shell, South Carolina (50)

C Evan Boehm, Missouri (81)

DEFENSE

First-Team

DL Robert Nkemdiche, Ole Miss (173)

DL A'Shawn Robinson, Alabama (160)

DL Myles Garrett, Texas A&M (155)

DL Carl Lawson, Auburn (131)

LB Reggie Ragland, Alabama (181)

LB Jordan Jenkins, Georgia (121)

LB Curt Maggitt, Tennessee (102)

DB Vernon Hargreaves, Florida (186)

DB Cyrus Jones, Alabama (126)

DB Jonathan Jones, Auburn (122)

DB Jalen Mills, LSU (118)

Second-Team

DL Jonathan Bullard, Florida (115)

DL Derek Barnett, Tennessee (105)

DL Jonathan Allen, Alabama (99)

DL Chris Jones, Mississippi State (93)

LB Kendell Beckwith, LSU (93)

LB Leonard Floyd, Georgia (92)

LB Cassanova McKinzy, Auburn (80)

DB Tony Conner, Ole Miss (117)

DB Cameron Sutton, Tennessee (115)

DB Will Redmond, Mississippi State (79)

DB Tre'Davious White, LSU (61)

Third-Team

DL Montravius Adams, Auburn (90)

DL Jarran Reed, Alabama (60)

DL Davon Godchaux, LSU (40)

DL Marquis Haynes, Ole Miss (34)

LB Kris Frost, Auburn (77)

LB Antonio Morrison, Florida (66)

LB Kentrell Brothers, Missouri (61)

DB A.J. Stamps, Kentucky (59)

DB Eddie Jackson, Alabama (58)

DB Jamal Adams, LSU (56)

DB Johnathan Ford, Auburn (52)

SPECIALISTS

First-Team

P JK Scott, Alabama (161)

PK Marshall Morgan, Georgia (100)

RS Speedy Noil, Texas A&M (117)

AP Pharoh Cooper, South Carolina (112)

Second-Team

P Drew Kaser, Texas A&M (92)

PK Elliott Fry, South Carolina (87)

RS Pharoh Cooper, South Carolina (75)

AP Leonard Fournette, LSU (85)

Third-Team

P Jamie Keehn, LSU (52)

PK Austin MacGinnis, Kentucky (59)

RS Leonard Fournette, LSU (66)

AP Speedy Noil, Texas A&M (84)

http://www.secsports...on-all-sec-team

[Barnacle 9,064]

Thanks man. You forgot to bold Carl Lawson though.

[TigerFreak 6]

Thanks man. You forgot to bold Carl Lawson though.

Thanks. Fixed it.

[McLoofus 35,182]

I sure hope our OL is a little more prominently featured on the postseason list. Ditto for Special Teams.

EDIT: And yes, thanks much for posting!

[TigerFreak 6]

I sure hope our OL is a little more prominently featured on the postseason list. Ditto for Special Teams.

EDIT: And yes, thanks much for posting!

No problem! I think our OL will be really good, excited to see Kozan back and to see what Golson can do.

[WarTim 3,457]

Thanks for info

[McLoofus 35,182]

I sure hope our OL is a little more prominently featured on the postseason list. Ditto for Special Teams.

EDIT: And yes, thanks much for posting!

No problem! I think our OL will be really good, excited to see Kozan back and to see what Golson can do.

I'm really, really optimistic about the talent. Can't remember such a deep group, and I'm a huge fan of Coach Grimes. The newness, especially at center, just has me in wait-and-see mode.

[mcgufcm 4,107]

Well, there's faulty logic is the voting. By putting Kozan on the list, they're assuming he'll be healthy this year, BUT if he's healthy this year, he's first-team. He's the most talented Guard at Auburn since Ben Grubbs.

Funny enough, the voters show more confidence in our defensive talent (6) than our offensive talent (4). I think the defense will be better, but I bet more offensive guys land on the post-season list than defensive guys.

[Mikey 16,776]

These voters also picked us to win the SEC. They must think a hell of a lot of our coaching staff. It would be hard to win much of anything with that few players among the top performers.

[McLoofus 35,182]

These voters also picked us to win the SEC. They must think a hell of a lot of our coaching staff. It would be hard to win much of anything with that few players among the top performers.

Bama only has 1 more than us. LSU has 1 less. The Mississippi schools, TAMU and UGA fall farther behind that.

EDIT: Also, Tray Matthews would absolutely be on that list if he were still at UGA and the same might be true of Golson were he still at Ole Miss.

[Barnacle 9,064]

These voters also picked us to win the SEC. They must think a hell of a lot of our coaching staff. It would be hard to win much of anything with that few players among the top performers.

EDIT: Also, Tray Matthews would absolutely be on that list if he were still at UGA and the same might be true of Golson were he still at Ole Miss.

This. I am certain that both of these players will be fulfilling their potential this year.

[mcgufcm 4,107]

10 players on the All-SEC list is a pretty high number. Bama had 9 on the AP All-SEC team (post-season) last year. Granted that's only a first/second team, and they had four more receive honorable mention. That would put them at 13. I'm guessing those are pretty normal numbers for the SEC champ.

[Mikey 16,776]

10 players on the All-SEC list is a pretty high number. Bama had 9 on the AP All-SEC team (post-season) last year. Granted that's only a first/second team, and they had four more receive honorable mention. That would put them at 13. I'm guessing those are pretty normal numbers for the SEC champ.

We have five on the first two teams. Either the post-season list will have more AU players on it or we won't be the champs.

[AU64 10,122]

10 players on the All-SEC list is a pretty high number. Bama had 9 on the AP All-SEC team (post-season) last year. Granted that's only a first/second team, and they had four more receive honorable mention. That would put them at 13. I'm guessing those are pretty normal numbers for the SEC champ.

We have five on the first two teams. Either the post-season list will have more AU players on it or we won't be the champs.

Hard to figure this stuff...we had two teams in the BCS finals recently and only a modest number or All-SEC players ....before the season and afterward too.

These kind of polls make one wonder how bama every loses a game. ...poor coaching perhaps ?

[mcgufcm 4,107]

In 2010, we had seven total players on first or second team (Cam, Pugh, Ziemba, Isom, Fairley, Carter, and Bynes). Isom, Carter, and Bynes didn't make the coaches' first or second teams.

I suspect the number of players from an SEC champ isn't wildly high every year. The highest number I've seen (looking quickly) was LSU in 2011, and as we know, they won the conference but not the national title. They had more All-SEC guys than Bama that year (11 to 8, using the AP team). Bama had 8 in 2012. We had 6 in 2013. Bama had 9 last year. Seems like champions or near champions routinely put 7 or 8 guys on the AP post-season list (averaging the six teams with titles or national titles in the last five years, you get 7 All-SEC players per team).

Our five on the first or second team is low. Mikey's right. We'll either get more or won't win the conference, but with 5 guys on the third team, it's not like guys have to come out of nowhere.

[AU64 10,122]

In 2010, we had seven total players on first or second team (Cam, Pugh, Ziemba, Isom, Fairley, Carter, and Bynes). Isom, Carter, and Bynes didn't make the coaches' first or second teams.

I suspect the number of players from an SEC champ isn't wildly high every year. The highest number I've seen (looking quickly) was LSU in 2011, and as we know, they won the conference but not the national title. They had more All-SEC guys than Bama that year (11 to 8, using the AP team). Bama had 8 in 2012. We had 6 in 2013. Bama had 9 last year. Seems like champions or near champions routinely put 7 or 8 guys on the AP post-season list (averaging the six teams with titles or national titles in the last five years, you get 7 All-SEC players per team).

Our five on the first or second team is low. Mikey's right. We'll either get more or won't win the conference, but with 5 guys on the third team, it's not like guys have to come out of nowhere.

Major difference in pre-season and post-season All SEC...nobody had heard of Cam before the season began....and Nick was a question mark too. Before the season began, it was just Bynes and Ziemba.

Afterward, you could not ignore what the AU players did. For the 2013 season AU did not have a single first team player on offense and defense in the pre-season.

My point was...the pre-season all star teams are about as meaningless as are the predictions of how the teams will finish in the standings.

[mcgufcm 4,107]

Nick wasn't all-sec in 2013. Manziel, McCarren, and Murray were.

[AU64 10,122]

Nick wasn't all-sec in 2013. Manziel, McCarren, and Murray were.

Sorry for the confusion...when I mentioned Nick, I was still talking 2010 and Nick Fairly who, like Cam, was virtually an unknown when the season started and ended up winning all kinds of national awards.

The second Nick...much as I liked, was rated about where he should have been in 2013....and JMO, but looking back, AU might have been better off by the end of last season if JJ had kept the job after the Arky game....but that's just second guessing....who knows..

[ShocksMyBrain 9,388]

Nick wasn't all-sec in 2013. Manziel, McCarren, and Murray were.

Sorry for the confusion...when I mentioned Nick, I was still talking 2010 and Nick Fairly who, like Cam, was virtually an unknown when the season started and ended up winning all kinds of national awards.

The second Nick...much as I liked, was rated about where he should have been in 2013....and JMO, but looking back, AU might have been better off by the end of last season if JJ had kept the job after the Arky game....but that's just second guessing....who knows..

NM was hardly the cause of the losses we had. They reside primarily on the defense's shoulders. We had no reason to sit Marshall.

[AU64 10,122]

Nick wasn't all-sec in 2013. Manziel, McCarren, and Murray were.

Sorry for the confusion...when I mentioned Nick, I was still talking 2010 and Nick Fairly who, like Cam, was virtually an unknown when the season started and ended up winning all kinds of national awards.

The second Nick...much as I liked, was rated about where he should have been in 2013....and JMO, but looking back, AU might have been better off by the end of last season if JJ had kept the job after the Arky game....but that's just second guessing....who knows..

NM was hardly the cause of the losses we had. They reside primarily on the defense's shoulders. We had no reason to sit Marshall.

I don't consider him the "cause" of any of the losses...well, maybe TAMU but JMO but he / we did not win any games late in the year for whatever reason and it would have been nice for JJ to have a full season under his belt. I'm not pushing either way....just suggesting that we would have been no worse with JJ under center and maybe better....

[mcgufcm 4,107]

No way we would have been a better team with Johnson last year. I don't believe in throwing seasons to get a guy experience unless you're really really bad. Nick was the best option for the team.

And I'll strongly disagree that those three guys were more impactful QBs in 2013 than Nick Marshall. They had better passing numbers. That's it. No one feared AJ McCarron the way they did Nick.

[FHeal 4]

No way we would have been a better team with Johnson last year. I don't believe in throwing seasons to get a guy experience unless you're really really bad. Nick was the best option for the team.

And I'll strongly disagree that those three guys were more impactful QBs in 2013 than Nick Marshall. They had better passing numbers. That's it. No one feared AJ McCarron the way they did Nick.

Surely would.....Because if JJ had played those games they would have already been 3-TD leads.

[Mikey 16,776]

No way we would have been a better team with Johnson last year. I don't believe in throwing seasons to get a guy experience unless you're really really bad. Nick was the best option for the team.

And I'll strongly disagree that those three guys were more impactful QBs in 2013 than Nick Marshall. They had better passing numbers. That's it. No one feared AJ McCarron the way they did Nick.

Surely would.....Because if JJ had played those games they would have already been 3-TD leads.

Nobody can say what would have happened had JJ been the starter. Nick did a wonderful job. The only way to agree with the "JJ should have started" idea is to believe that Gus can't tell which QB gives his team the best chance to win. If that's true, we are in for some tough years in the near future.

[AU64 10,122]

No way we would have been a better team with Johnson last year. I don't believe in throwing seasons to get a guy experience unless you're really really bad. Nick was the best option for the team.

And I'll strongly disagree that those three guys were more impactful QBs in 2013 than Nick Marshall. They had better passing numbers. That's it. No one feared AJ McCarron the way they did Nick.

Surely would.....Because if JJ had played those games they would have already been 3-TD leads.

Nobody can say what would have happened had JJ been the starter. Nick did a wonderful job. The only way to agree with the "JJ should have started" idea is to believe that Gus can't tell which QB gives his team the best chance to win. If that's true, we are in for some tough years in the near future.

Coaches make the decisions they make for a variety of reasons...all of their decisions do not necessarily work out as expected....Gus's included. Does not project "tough years in the future". Nick did well enough to keep the job and Gus likely wanted to stick with experience...can't' blame him. But as he himself has noted, he's hard headed and once a decision is made he is inclined to stick with it...we see that in his play calling and perhaps with player selection and Nick never gave him a reason to go to JJ...other than Nick's early season suspension.

I don't have strong feelings on the issue...other than I don't believe that Gus or any coach makes perfect decisions though we don't know his reasoning.

[mcgufcm 4,107]

We lit up almost every team we played. Especially down the stretch with UGA being the only exception. For Johnson to be a better option, you'd have to actually find numbers that indicate that the offense struggled under Nick. You can look. You just won't find them.