Purdue staffer threatens to rape pro-life women

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

The right is just as guilty of this with their topics. Don't sleep with them, don't marry them, don't smoke that, let's rewrite history to show this, women must do this with their bodies, your kids must learn the world occurred this way, sex education must be this way for kids, don't affiliate with that group of people, your home or business rules doesn't matter my gun belongs there, if you disagree your a soulless lefty etc etc etc etc.

Both sides run on a claimed system of morals and values which pushes issues on others. They both are equal when it comes to it.

I must be a soulless lefty then because i disagree with just about all of that.

Probably because it is nonsense afa the equation. Now there are some loons on each side, but to equate this loon with the right in general is nonsense.

Noone is identifying this individual as being on the right. His comments are just as stupid as the the "being impregnated via rape is a blessing from God comments".

Which is actually why it would be nice to see the full context of how all this went down. I would be curious if he was responding to that type of comment by offering to rape a persons female family members and being a dick about it.

I read your quote out of context when responding to it. So, please forget my response to it.

Afa this guy, I am not as potentially forgiving as you are on this. It's not okay, imo to "be a dick" in the manner he was, and that is a best case scenario that I don't believe is the case.

He was doubling down in the way he presented it. What if he were talking of murdering someone? Does the subject being rape make it not nearly as bad? Not in my book.

To a woman who has been raped, suggesting she should have a legal duty to carry the resulting pregnancy to term might be on the same level of offensiveness.

Nowhere near it imo.

It's funny to me to hear people say, I'm against abortion, unless it's rape or a life threatening pregnancy. Now, a life threatening pregnancy, I can understand the reasoning behind that. Howver, there is much more gray area with rape. If a life is sacred as a fetus, what difference does it being from a rape make? I understand it can be traumatic to the mother and if it is mentally devestating to the point of endangering her and the baby's well being then I can understand that, I suppose.

However, to equate raping someone with suggesting that someone be made to carry a baby resulting from rape in not equitable in my book. One would be borne of good intentions (The road to hell is paved with the, they say.), while the other is a heinous crime born of very bad intentions.

You should investigate the mental statistics and impact on raped women more. PTSD, increased substance abuse (drugs and alcohol) even if not prior users, increased suicidal thoughts, increased suicide, sexual dysfunction, depression.. huge list of how it screws their lives and that isn't even taking into account a pregnancy.

There is no if. Rape is mentally devastating and endangers a woman.

I have a good friend that I stopped from getting raped. Three soldiers. They had her skirt up and panties off but I got there in time to prevent penetration. To this day she still suffers panic attacks when she see's men in military uniforms.

There are women that are strong enough to follow through. A AU homecoming queen years ago was the child of rape and her mother gave her up for adoption.

This is a decision that only the victim should make.

Well, I am pro life, but I'm not necessarily in favor of illegalizing abortion altogether. It is a slippery slope when legislating morality. There is gray area here with the entire, "when is a life a life debate".

I do think there should be limitations of when they may occur. I'm not sure what the solution is. Maybe determine the time at which a baby is likely at all to survive outside the womb and use that as a guideline, and in order to get an abortion after that there would have to be proof of serious repercussions for the mother if the pregnancy continues? I don't know.

If there is some sort of spiritual punishment for the abortion then anyone having one and the doctor performing one will have to deal with that. I'm not saying there is.

I understand the point you are making about the mental suffering of a woman involved in a rape or attempted rape. I'm not arguing against that.

My point earlier was that if you say abortion is murder and/or should not be allowed at all, it seems a little strange to have a rape exception. I still feel that way. Now, if the mother's or the baby's life is in danger and it is evident to a medical professional (which could be as a result of trauma from rape), I can see that.

Jmo.

I didn't say abortion shouldn't be allowed. I have specifically said that I support it in cases of rape and incest. I would prefer that women gave up children for adoption (have stated it many times) but that system needs to be changed. The age of parents, single parents, same sexed parents all that could provide good homes have been turned down for those reasons. They then, like my own family did, go out of the country to adopt.

Given that stance I cannot be pro-life.

[tiger88 934]

I wasn't implying you had said abortion shouldn't be allowed. I don't know what the official definition of "pro-life" is. I see it as people who are generally against abortion. I googled it and I definitely don't fit the "official" definition of pro life at all.