2018 4* QB Joey Gatewood (Auburn 12/5/15)

[Mikey 16,605]

^Agreed. We NEED to get someone out of JUCO (or prep school if WB goes there) for the 2017 class! We could be stuck in the SEC cellar until Gatewood arrives or has a year under his belt if not. If we stay in that cellar for the next two years, should we make a coaching change? Or should we keep GM to get JG?

Please Joey, stick with us and QUALIFY! And graduating early would be nice...

The idea that one QB will make bad seasons into good ones and keep us out of the SEC cellar is, to say the least, very weird. A good team (which we will have) won't be in the cellar because of one position.

Edited May 18, 2016 by Mikey

[cole256 17,084]

Didn't you blame last season on JJ?

[ellitor 33,094]

^Agreed. We NEED to get someone out of JUCO (or prep school if WB goes there) for the 2017 class! We could be stuck in the SEC cellar until Gatewood arrives or has a year under his belt if not. If we stay in that cellar for the next two years, should we make a coaching change? Or should we keep GM to get JG?

Please Joey, stick with us and QUALIFY! And graduating early would be nice...

The idea that one QB will make bad seasons into good ones and keep us out of the SEC cellar is, to say the least, very weird. A good team (which we will have) won't be in the cellar because of one position.

Given how close every game was besides LSU, you don't think we are out of the cellar last season with good QB play? I respectfully but whole heartedly disagree.

[DAG 33,988]

^Agreed. We NEED to get someone out of JUCO (or prep school if WB goes there) for the 2017 class! We could be stuck in the SEC cellar until Gatewood arrives or has a year under his belt if not. If we stay in that cellar for the next two years, should we make a coaching change? Or should we keep GM to get JG?

Please Joey, stick with us and QUALIFY! And graduating early would be nice...

The idea that one QB will make bad seasons into good ones and keep us out of the SEC cellar is, to say the least, very weird. A good team (which we will have) won't be in the cellar because of one position.

This is just stupid. The QB position is one of the most integral positions in the game of football. Look at what happened to Oregon, the games that Vernon Adams did not play for them. Anytime they faced a team with a pulse they lost. TCU scored an unprecedented 31 unanswered points against the ducks in the second half in his absence and they got obliterated when he wasn't there during their game against the UTES.

[AU64 10,122]

^Agreed. We NEED to get someone out of JUCO (or prep school if WB goes there) for the 2017 class! We could be stuck in the SEC cellar until Gatewood arrives or has a year under his belt if not. If we stay in that cellar for the next two years, should we make a coaching change? Or should we keep GM to get JG?

Please Joey, stick with us and QUALIFY! And graduating early would be nice...

The idea that one QB will make bad seasons into good ones and keep us out of the SEC cellar is, to say the least, very weird. A good team (which we will have) won't be in the cellar because of one position.

This is just stupid. The QB position is one of the most integral positions in the game of football. Look at what happened to Oregon, the games that Vernon Adams did not play for them. Anytime they faced a team with a pulse they lost. TCU scored an unprecedented 31 unanswered points against the ducks in the second half in his absence and they got obliterated when he wasn't there during their game against the UTES.

Yep but is greatly a factor of the offensive style...some like Oregon...and maybe AU being almost totally dependant on their QB.

Without Adams Oregon had nothing...Many teams can survive the loss of a QB and still get by....but we are not among those..Gus can't guarantee that any top HS guy will live up to expectations and has to always be watching for a Plan B.

[Mikey 16,605]

Didn't you blame last season on JJ?

No. If I were to "blame" last season on anything it would be JJ's mental issues, White's injury, Lawson's injury, Duke's collapse, Robinson's issues early in the season, receivers dropping catchable balls and our failure to recruit quality and depth at linebacker over the prior five years.

One position didn't cause last year. Quarterback didn't cause last year. It takes a number of things to put a good group into the cellar.

[Mikey 16,605]

^Agreed. We NEED to get someone out of JUCO (or prep school if WB goes there) for the 2017 class! We could be stuck in the SEC cellar until Gatewood arrives or has a year under his belt if not. If we stay in that cellar for the next two years, should we make a coaching change? Or should we keep GM to get JG?

Please Joey, stick with us and QUALIFY! And graduating early would be nice...

The idea that one QB will make bad seasons into good ones and keep us out of the SEC cellar is, to say the least, very weird. A good team (which we will have) won't be in the cellar because of one position.

This is just stupid. The QB position is one of the most integral positions in the game of football. Look at what happened to Oregon, the games that Vernon Adams did not play for them. Anytime they faced a team with a pulse they lost. TCU scored an unprecedented 31 unanswered points against the ducks in the second half in his absence and they got obliterated when he wasn't there during their game against the UTES.

Adams played defense too? Who knew he was a renaissance man?

[McLoofus 35,182]

^Agreed. We NEED to get someone out of JUCO (or prep school if WB goes there) for the 2017 class! We could be stuck in the SEC cellar until Gatewood arrives or has a year under his belt if not. If we stay in that cellar for the next two years, should we make a coaching change? Or should we keep GM to get JG?

Please Joey, stick with us and QUALIFY! And graduating early would be nice...

The idea that one QB will make bad seasons into good ones and keep us out of the SEC cellar is, to say the least, very weird. A good team (which we will have) won't be in the cellar because of one position.

This is just stupid. The QB position is one of the most integral positions in the game of football. Look at what happened to Oregon, the games that Vernon Adams did not play for them. Anytime they faced a team with a pulse they lost. TCU scored an unprecedented 31 unanswered points against the ducks in the second half in his absence and they got obliterated when he wasn't there during their game against the UTES.

Adams played defense too? Who knew he was a renaissance man?

Emphasis on the word "unanswered", Mikey.

[aujeff11 6,243]

^Agreed. We NEED to get someone out of JUCO (or prep school if WB goes there) for the 2017 class! We could be stuck in the SEC cellar until Gatewood arrives or has a year under his belt if not. If we stay in that cellar for the next two years, should we make a coaching change? Or should we keep GM to get JG?

Please Joey, stick with us and QUALIFY! And graduating early would be nice...

The idea that one QB will make bad seasons into good ones and keep us out of the SEC cellar is, to say the least, very weird. A good team (which we will have) won't be in the cellar because of one position.

This is just stupid. The QB position is one of the most integral positions in the game of football. Look at what happened to Oregon, the games that Vernon Adams did not play for them. Anytime they faced a team with a pulse they lost. TCU scored an unprecedented 31 unanswered points against the ducks in the second half in his absence and they got obliterated when he wasn't there during their game against the UTES.

Adams played defense too? Who knew he was a renaissance man?

I saw the Oregon-TCU game too... Not only did the QB get hurt, the senior captain center got hurt also. I don't think Oregon had one first down the whole second half...

[FoundationEagle 637]

Kid is going to be a good one but there is now way he can live up to the expectations that will be expected of him. Cam was a once in generation type of player. Damn sure glad I got to see Cam firsthand. 2010 Iron Bowl will go down as one of the best days of my life. GLORIOUS.

We have to stop with the Cam comparisons for the reasons you mentioned.

OK then. He reminded me of Dante Culpepper at UCF. No Joke. Is that better? lol

I still remember sitting in Jordan Hare watching this UCF QB do things a college QB shouldn't have been ready to do. It was UCF for goodness sakes! He gave our defense fits. He was already amazing then. I believe that was around '97? He was the playmaker that put UCF on the map. I'll take 10 of him every year.

[AU64 10,122]

I saw the Oregon-TCU game too... Not only did the QB get hurt, the senior captain center got hurt also. I don't think Oregon had one first down the whole second half...

I think that's a point that Mikey missed since he might not have watched they game as we did. It was 3 and out the entire second half for Oregon ...which means their D was back on the field after about a minute of rest after each exchange of the ball.....and we know what that is like don't we ?

[aujeff11 6,243]

I saw the Oregon-TCU game too... Not only did the QB get hurt, the senior captain center got hurt also. I don't think Oregon had one first down the whole second half...

I think that's a point that Mikey missed since he might not have watched they game as we did. It was 3 and out the entire second half for Oregon ...which means their D was back on the field after about a minute of rest after each exchange of the ball.....and we know what that is like don't we ?

Yup. In Oregon's case they had a measly 18 yards on 18 plays in the second half. They had 370+ in the first half.

[Tiger 8,827]

In one hand, I think it is ridiculous that Tiger is scoffing at the Cam Newton comparisons when there is FINALLY good reason to make the comparisons based on running style. On the other hand, I, too, am tired of hearing the Cam comparisons when they are not applicable. I saw them with Torrance Gibson and others and they don't apply. I saw Gruden compare Paxton Lynch to Cam Newton before the draft and I about spat my drink out of my mouth. People need to chill with the comparisons.

With that said, Gatewood runs just like Cam did. Same running, cutting, and weaving running style.

I will give you this, though: Gatewood is actually the first guy you can say style wise is actually comparable to Cam. I guess I always cringe when I see people trying to compare other QBs favorably to Cam when in reality they aren't close. But this JG thread might've been the wrong place to vent. I was thinking more production wise, but visually his style is similar especially in the ways you described. However, I said this whole same thing about JJ when his hype train was cranked all the way up before the season started and people were name dropping Cam in regards to how good JJ was going to be. Nobody knew he'd flop as bad as he did but even on his best day stylistically you just can't compare the 2.

[McLoofus 35,182]

In one hand, I think it is ridiculous that Tiger is scoffing at the Cam Newton comparisons when there is FINALLY good reason to make the comparisons based on running style. On the other hand, I, too, am tired of hearing the Cam comparisons when they are not applicable. I saw them with Torrance Gibson and others and they don't apply. I saw Gruden compare Paxton Lynch to Cam Newton before the draft and I about spat my drink out of my mouth. People need to chill with the comparisons.

With that said, Gatewood runs just like Cam did. Same running, cutting, and weaving running style.

I will give you this, though: Gatewood is actually the first guy you can say style wise is actually comparable to Cam. I guess I always cringe when I see people trying to compare other QBs favorably to Cam when in reality they aren't close. But this JG thread might've been the wrong place to vent. I was thinking more production wise, but visually his style is similar especially in the ways you described. However, I said this whole same thing about JJ when his hype train was cranked all the way up before the season started and people were name dropping Cam in regards to how good JJ was going to be. Nobody knew he'd flop as bad as he did but even on his best day stylistically you just can't compare the 2.

Good post.

As for comparing only the running styles of Gatewood and Cam, it will be interesting to see if he turns into a guy who can run around, over or through SEC LBs. If he does, then yes, he'll run "just like Cam did". Cam could be Mike Vick or Cardale Jones. No reason I should see that in a high school freshman, but until I do, I don't.

[AU64 10,122]

In one hand, I think it is ridiculous that Tiger is scoffing at the Cam Newton comparisons when there is FINALLY good reason to make the comparisons based on running style. On the other hand, I, too, am tired of hearing the Cam comparisons when they are not applicable. I saw them with Torrance Gibson and others and they don't apply. I saw Gruden compare Paxton Lynch to Cam Newton before the draft and I about spat my drink out of my mouth. People need to chill with the comparisons.

With that said, Gatewood runs just like Cam did. Same running, cutting, and weaving running style.

I will give you this, though: Gatewood is actually the first guy you can say style wise is actually comparable to Cam. I guess I always cringe when I see people trying to compare other QBs favorably to Cam when in reality they aren't close. But this JG thread might've been the wrong place to vent. I was thinking more production wise, but visually his style is similar especially in the ways you described. However, I said this whole same thing about JJ when his hype train was cranked all the way up before the season started and people were name dropping Cam in regards to how good JJ was going to be. Nobody knew he'd flop as bad as he did but even on his best day stylistically you just can't compare the 2.

Good post.

As for comparing only the running styles of Gatewood and Cam, it will be interesting to see if he turns into a guy who can run around, over or through SEC LBs. If he does, then yes, he'll run "just like Cam did". Cam could be Mike Vick or Cardale Jones. No reason I should see that in a high school freshman, but until I do, I don't.

Agree...I don't care if he can run like Cam....or Nick or Dak....just would be nice to have a guy who keeps our opponent's defensive coaches awake at night trying to figure what to do with him.

[AUwent 3,752]

Thinking about an overall timetable of expectations for the next four years (a topic which certainly relates to JG and our other QBs), we should aim for at least 8 (counting bowl) wins for both the next two years and in both '18 and '19, aim for at least 9 (counting bowl) wins, and expect a championship run in one of the two.

[ellitor 33,094]

Thinking about an overall timetable of expectations for the next four years (a topic which certainly relates to JG and our other QBs), we should aim for at least 8 (counting bowl) wins for both the next two years and in both '18 and '19, aim for at least 9 (counting bowl) wins, and expect a championship run in one of the two.

If the D is as good as people are hoping in 2016 we can get 8 w/ mediocre QB play. Good play & we can beat anyone of the big 4.

[JFDTiger80 790]

Thinking about an overall timetable of expectations for the next four years (a topic which certainly relates to JG and our other QBs), we should aim for at least 8 (counting bowl) wins for both the next two years and in both '18 and '19, aim for at least 9 (counting bowl) wins, and expect a championship run in one of the two.

If the D is as good as people are hoping in 2016 we can get 8 w/ mediocre QB play. Good play & we can beat anyone of the big 4.

I hope this works out to be true. Our D looks great on paper, they need to play to their potential. The QB situation still does not look great. It can't be worse than last year.

[cole256 17,084]

Most time people make comparisons off a similar physique or build. That's one of the things with Joey. He's big and he can move

[AUwent 3,752]

Thinking about an overall timetable of expectations for the next four years (a topic which certainly relates to JG and our other QBs), we should aim for at least 8 (counting bowl) wins for both the next two years and in both '18 and '19, aim for at least 9 (counting bowl) wins, and expect a championship run in one of the two.

If the D is as good as people are hoping in 2016 we can get 8 w/ mediocre QB play. Good play & we can beat anyone of the big 4.

I hope this works out to be true. Our D looks great on paper, they need to play to their potential. The QB situation still does not look great. It can't be worse than last year.

The trouble is that we could have a bad QB situation until 2018. Say Sean doesn't work out, Woody has to go to JUCO, and we can't sign any QB in this next class. Even if Sean is a good QB, our depth in '17 would be horrible. The question then is should we give Gus a free pass until 2018, or should we fire him at the obvious risk of losing WB and/or JG?

Let's hope WB, at very worst, goes to prep school, Mond signs, JG sticks, and of course, that SW work out.

Edited May 18, 2016 by AUwent

[AU64 10,122]

Big schools find QBs in Juco or Div 11 schools all the time who were over-looked during their HS day, had a few problems...or perhaps were just late bloomers.

It's nice to know a few years ahead of time who the QB candidates are...but apparently not essential. If you look around at all the QBs recently who arrived at their schools from at least one previous destination.

Maybe it's just me but I've accepted the futility of trying to project how a 17 or 18 HS student might respond to SEC football. Just take 'em as they come and keep the pipeline flowing from all possible sources.

[ellitor 33,094]

Thinking about an overall timetable of expectations for the next four years (a topic which certainly relates to JG and our other QBs), we should aim for at least 8 (counting bowl) wins for both the next two years and in both '18 and '19, aim for at least 9 (counting bowl) wins, and expect a championship run in one of the two.

If the D is as good as people are hoping in 2016 we can get 8 w/ mediocre QB play. Good play & we can beat anyone of the big 4.

I hope this works out to be true. Our D looks great on paper, they need to play to their potential. The QB situation still does not look great. It can't be worse than last year.

The trouble is that we could have a bad QB situation until 2018. Say Sean doesn't work out, Woody has to go to JUCO, and we can't sign any QB in this next class. Even if Sean is a good QB, our depth in '17 would be horrible. The question then is should we give Gus a free pass until 2018, or should we fire him at the obvious risk of losing WB and/or JG?

Let's hope WB, at very worst, goes to prep school, Mond signs, JG sticks, and of course, that SW work out.

Woody is not going to juco or prep school. He will be at AU, Just not in the early Summer like the rest of the class because his high school does not have graduation til mid June. Worst case scenario is he does not get to AU til early August. And we will sign a QB in this class. I'm not sure it will be a big time QB but we will sign 1.

[ellitor 33,094]

Big schools find QBs in Juco or Div 11 schools all the time who were over-looked during their HS day, had a few problems...or perhaps were just late bloomers.

It's nice to know a few years ahead of time who the QB candidates are...but apparently not essential. If you look around at all the QBs recently who arrived at their schools from at least one previous destination.

Maybe it's just me but I've accepted the futility of trying to project how a 17 or 18 HS student might respond to SEC football. Just take 'em as they come and keep the pipeline flowing from all possible sources.

There's no room on a message board for sound, logical reasoning.

[AU64 10,122]

Big schools find QBs in Juco or Div 11 schools all the time who were over-looked during their HS day, had a few problems...or perhaps were just late bloomers.

It's nice to know a few years ahead of time who the QB candidates are...but apparently not essential. If you look around at all the QBs recently who arrived at their schools from at least one previous destination.

Maybe it's just me but I've accepted the futility of trying to project how a 17 or 18 HS student might respond to SEC football. Just take 'em as they come and keep the pipeline flowing from all possible sources.

There's no room on a message board for sound, logical reasoning.

Sorry.....won't happen again...

[Mikey 16,605]

Thinking about an overall timetable of expectations for the next four years (a topic which certainly relates to JG and our other QBs), we should aim for at least 8 (counting bowl) wins for both the next two years and in both '18 and '19, aim for at least 9 (counting bowl) wins, and expect a championship run in one of the two.

If the D is as good as people are hoping in 2016 we can get 8 w/ mediocre QB play. Good play & we can beat anyone of the big 4.

I hope this works out to be true. Our D looks great on paper, they need to play to their potential. The QB situation still does not look great. It can't be worse than last year.

The trouble is that we could have a bad QB situation until 2018. Say Sean doesn't work out, Woody has to go to JUCO, and we can't sign any QB in this next class. Even if Sean is a good QB, our depth in '17 would be horrible. The question then is should we give Gus a free pass until 2018, or should we fire him at the obvious risk of losing WB and/or JG?

Let's hope WB, at very worst, goes to prep school, Mond signs, JG sticks, and of course, that SW work out.

Woody is not going to juco or prep school. He will be at AU, Just not in the early Summer like the rest of the class because his high school does not have graduation til mid June. Worst case scenario is he does not get to AU til early August. And we will sign a QB in this class. I'm not sure it will be a big time QB but we will sign 1.

So, you have acquired information that Woody is in good shape academically and there's no reason for worry along those lines? I hope that's what I'm reading.