TitanTiger 20,511 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Fallout from the forthcoming memo? Not sure what to make of this: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/rep-trey-gowdy-abruptly-announces-retirement-congress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,184 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: Fallout from the forthcoming memo? Not sure what to make of this: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/rep-trey-gowdy-abruptly-announces-retirement-congress/ Gowdy was one of the ones talking about how embarrassing it would be for the Dems and the FBI. has to be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,453 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 As he is my representative, all I can say is good riddance! Thanks to the so called "tea party", Gowdy replaced our former representative, (Republican) Bob Inglis. While I didn't agree with Inglis on everything, he was honorable and addressed real problems in an honest way. That was just too much for the tea party wackos. Gowdy is a slimeball partisan. Hopefully, the Republicans can revert back to sanity and nominate someone whom I can at least respect as an individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 May have something to do with the fact that he's actually an anthropomorphic onion. The truth had finally come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,028 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Since he won’t investigate Republicans and can’t legislate, he’s bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamsHouseCat 43 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 how might he have announced his resignmation un-abruptly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80Tiger 904 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I thought I read he was not seeking re-election, not that he resigned. Did something change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,915 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 did he not change one or more of clintons statements to try to damage her further? how he remained in office after that i have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,305 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Not sure were the resign part came from. His statement was "announced Wednesday that he will not seek re-election, saying his skills “are better utilized in a courtroom than in Congress.” http://www.goupstate.com/news/20180131/gowdy-former-benghazi-committee-chairman-not-seeking-re-election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,926 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 http://www.weeklystandard.com/trey-gowdy-announces-he-will-not-seek-re-election/article/2011400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,453 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 18 hours ago, aubiefifty said: did he not change one or more of clintons statements to try to damage her further? how he remained in office after that i have no idea. That was a just a demonstration of his prosecutorial skills. At least in private practice, there will be a defense attorney to provide rebuttal - even if only a court-appointed, pro bono one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,453 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, 80Tiger said: I thought I read he was not seeking re-election, not that he resigned. Did something change? To say he has resigned, would be literally incorrect. He announced his resignation. To take effect next election. That's more-or-less the equivalent of saying "he resigned" IMO. But take it up with Titan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,305 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 What difference does it make..................sorry couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, aubiefifty said: did he not change one or more of clintons statements to try to damage her further? how he remained in office after that i have no idea. I don't know the answer but have never heard of such. Have a link or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, 80Tiger said: I thought I read he was not seeking re-election, not that he resigned. Did something change? Nothing has changed. Note the article in the OP link is from appropriately titled "Raw Story." The headline is misleading but as the article itself says he will not seek reelection. Two different things. Al Franken resigned. Gowdy is not seeking reelection WHEN HIS TERM IS UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,511 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 The headline was bad. At time I saw that link in my Facebook feed, I just grabbed and posted it here. I generally don't care for Raw Story and should have dug for a better source. This did seem to come out of the blue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,915 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 10 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: I don't know the answer but have never heard of such. Have a link or something? samuel-warde.com CIA: Trey Gowdy Altered Documents To Frame Hillary Clinton Samuel Warde 7-9 minutes In a bombshell revelation, the Central Intelligence Agency reached out to Democrats serving on the Select Committee on Benghazi on Saturday, October 17, 2015 to confirm that Chairman Trey Gowdy had altered documents provided to the committee by Hillary Clinton. Monday, October 5, 2015, all five Democratic Members of the Select Committee on Benghazi sent a letter informing House Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Trey Gowdy (F-SC) that they planned to begin releasing witness interview transcripts, starting with the interview of former State Department Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, in order to correct the public record after numerous inaccurate Republican leaks. “Despite claims that the Committee would be run with integrity, Republicans have engaged in a series of selective leaks of inaccurate and incomplete information in an effort to attack Secretary Clinton with unsubstantiated or previously debunked allegations,” the Democrats wrote. On October 7, 2015, Gowdy sent a response to ranking minority member Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), stating that he was “disheartened at the nature and tone of Monday’s letter from your Democrat colleagues and you.” In the letter, Gowdy referred extensively to Sidney Blumenthal, a long-time confidante and adviser to the Clintons, who served as assistant and senior adviser to Bill Clinton from August 1997 until January 2001. In addition to Sidney Blumenthal’s business interests, Secretary Clinton also apparently received classified information from Blumenthal- information she should have known was classified at the time she received it. In one email, Blumenthal writes “Tyler spoke to a colleague currently at CIA, who told him the agency had been dependent for intelligence from [redacted due to sources and methods].”1 This information, the name of a human source, is some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but also human lives. Armed with that information, Secretary Clinton forwarded the email to a colleague–debunking her claim that she never sent any classified information from her private email address.1 There may be other instances as well where Secretary Clinton passed on classified information she received from Sidney Blumenthal. [emphasis added] However, as Newsweek reported on Sunday, the CIA informed the House Select Committee on Benghazi on Saturday that Gowdy’s claims were false: Indeed, according to committee correspondence reviewed by Newsweek, the CIA did tell the panel on Saturday that it had reviewed 127 emails between Clinton and her close friend and outside adviser, Sidney Blumenthal, and none of it was deemed classified. “The CIA reviewed the material in question and informed State that it required no redactions,” the agency informed Susan Sachsman Grooms, staff director and general counsel for the panel’s Democrats, on October 17. On Sunday, Cummings sent a letter to Gowdy to correct the public record in light of the fact that the CIA had debunked Chairman Gowdy’s accusations. Cummings began, writing that: “On October 7, 2015, you sent me a 13-page letter making a grave new accusation against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Specifically, you accused her of compromising national security and endangering lives,” adding that, “The problem with your accusation—as with so many others during this investigation—is that you failed to check your facts before you made it, and the CIA has now informed the Select Committee that you were wrong. I believe your accusations were irresponsible, and I believe you owe the Secretary an immediate apology.” Cummings went on to accuse Gowdy of making the false claims against Clinton in an attempt to diffuse controversy surround Republican Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s admission that the purpose of the Benghazi hearings was to discredit Clinton. It appears that your letter was rushed out to the press to counter the public firestorm caused by Republican Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s stark admission that Republicans are using millions of taxpayer dollars to damage Secretary Clinton’s bid for president. However, your letter only provided further evidence of this fact. Speaking directly to Gowdy’s accusations against Clinton, Cummings wrote: In your letter on October 7, 2015, you stated that Secretary Clinton received an email from Sidney Blumenthal on March 18, 2011, that included the name of someone who purportedly provided information to the CIA. You asserted that this information was classified, arguing that Secretary Clinton “received classified information from Blumenthal—information she should have known was classified at the time she received it.” You then alleged: Armed with that information, Secretary Clinton forwarded that email to a colleague—debunking her claim that she never sent any classified information from her private email address. In your letter, you went to great lengths to highlight the gravity of your accusation, stating: This information, the name of a human source, is some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but human lives. Cummings then dropped the bomb – accusing Gowdy of altering documents in an effort to frame Clinton: To further inflate your claim, you placed your own redactions over the name of the individual with the words, “redacted due to sources and methods.” To be clear, these redactions were not made, and these words were not added, by any agency of the federal government responsible for enforcing classification guidelines. Cummings continued, emphasizing the fact that the CIA had thoroughly debunked Gowdy’s false claims against Clinton: Contrary to your claims, the CIA yesterday informed both the Republican and Democratic staffs of the Select Committee that they do not consider the information you highlighted in your letter to be classified. Specifically, the CIA confirmed that “the State Department consulted with the CIA on this production, the CIA reviewed these documents, and the CIA made no redactions to protect classified information.” Unfortunately, you sent your letter on October 7 without checking first with the CIA. Now that we have done so, we have learned that your accusations were incorrect. Cummings concluded his letter, writing that Gowdy’s actions have “brought discredit” on the Benghazi investigation and has “undermine[d] the integrity” of the committee and the House of Representatives itself: Unfortunately, the standard operating procedure of this Select Committee has become to put out information publicly that is inaccurate and out of context in order to attack Secretary Clinton for political reasons. These repeated actions bring discredit on this investigation and undermine the integrity of the Select Committee and the House of Representatives. 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TitanTiger 20,511 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 26 minutes ago, aubiefifty said: samuel-warde.com CIA: Trey Gowdy Altered Documents To Frame Hillary Clinton Samuel Warde https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/liberals-unite-samuel-warde/ This isn't a really reliable source for information. It's classified as being right on the edge of extreme left. Not saying it's total "fake news," but I'd take it with a grain of salt unless you see the story corroborated elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,915 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/liberals-unite-samuel-warde/ This isn't a really reliable source for information. It's classified as being right on the edge of extreme left. Not saying it's total "fake news," but I'd take it with a grain of salt unless you see the story corroborated elsewhere. yes i understand but i am drinking coffee and did not want to sort through the huge list of articles. now that he sees what i was talking about i assume he could look for his own info...........not trying to be a jerk or anything. other than loving waking up every morning i am not much of a morning person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,740 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 This way he'll be free to serve as the next Attorney General, should Trump and Sessions continue to have their differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,915 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mikey said: This way he'll be free to serve as the next Attorney General, should Trump and Sessions continue to have their differences. you might be on to something mikey. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Tipper 430 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 12:08 PM, TitanTiger said: Fallout from the forthcoming memo? Not sure what to make of this: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/rep-trey-gowdy-abruptly-announces-retirement-congress/ Fake thread title. TG didn't "abruptly resign". He stated that he won't be running for re-election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,511 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Elephant Tipper said: Fake thread title. TG didn't "abruptly resign". He stated that he won't be running for re-election. Welcome to yesterday and my post in this thread from 7 hrs ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Tipper 430 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: Welcome to yesterday and my post in this thread from 7 hrs ago. Raw Story never used the word "resign". You did. RS correctly stated that TG is retiring. You should correct your thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,511 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Elephant Tipper said: Raw Story never used the word "resign". You did. RS correctly stated that TG is retiring. You should correct your thread title. Actually they did, hence the discussion that followed. They have changed the headline from what it was originally. I'll leave the thread title so the discussion that follows makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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