CNN, NYT, ABC News, C-SPAN Take Trump Out of Context to Falsely Suggest He Called Immigrants ‘Animals’

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7 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

I will leave that to him and God. As I have said before, I didn't vote for him as my pastor. I did vote for Jimmy Carter because he was avowed Christian. Look how that turned out. That was the last time I placed much emphasis on whether a politician is a supposed Christian or not in how I vote.

It's an objective thing.  Someone who claims they do not need to ask for forgiveness is not a Christian and does not understand Christianity.

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9 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said:

And there it is folks. Doubling down...... So 'deplorable's' is still considered to be showing humanity, that's the rationale/excuse you're going with? ..... 

Doubling down?  How about understanding language?  That calling someone a dum dum isn't the same as calling someone a worthless piece of s***?  Or that telling someone to buzz off isn't the same as telling them to go kill themselves?  Or that, yes, even "deplorables" is not the same as "animals." Do you not understand such distinctions in language?  One is an insult, the other literally says they are less than people.

I mean, do we not teach our children such things?  I may not ever want my kids to fuss and fight, but my response to them is going to be a lot different if I overhear one of them tell the other to "leave me alone!" vs "go to hell!"

 

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How thoughtful and kind of you to give that much consideration to people that you condemn and consider unworthy of being on your level. It takes a noble and humble to person to admit that they're just morally superior...... hahahahahaha

I'm not mad or fuming, I find your righteous moral anti-Trump crusades invigorating. It turns a boring and dull day into something more exciting. I have fun with it. If you think I'm fuming then yet again it's a disconnect in understanding. Typing out thoughts and trying to express them don't always come across the way you like on here. 

I was actually laughing reading some of the old comments in the links I posted. I sure wasn't fuming or had the 'vapors' as you put it. I find the disingenuous tone you take whenever something is aimed towards Trump or Trump voters to be ridiculous.

You suck at building a case.  Do better or just quit trying.  Your idea of a 'smoking gun' needs work.

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8 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

I will leave that to him and God. As I have said before, I didn't vote for him as my pastor. I did vote for Jimmy Carter because he was avowed Christian. Look how that turned out. That was the last time I placed much emphasis on whether a politician is a supposed Christian or not in how I vote.

Ah, so suddenly because it’s your guy morals no longer matter. You didn’t elect a pastor? Well you also didn’t elect a man who will research before making a decision. You didn’t elect a man who possesses empathy and concern for all of America. You didn’t elect a man who can remain faithful to his wife, How then can he be faithful to America? You didn’t elect a man who is honest. You didn’t elect a man who is educated. You didn’t elect a man with an even temoermany. You elected a poor excuse for a leader. 

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11 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said:

Ah, so suddenly because it’s your guy morals no longer matter. You didn’t elect a pastor? Well you also didn’t elect a man who will research before making a decision. You didn’t elect a man who possesses empathy and concern for all of America. You didn’t elect a man who can remain faithful to his wife, How then can he be faithful to America? You didn’t elect a man who is honest. You didn’t elect a man who is educated. You didn’t elect a man with an even temoermany. You elected a poor excuse for a leader. 

I've been told retroactively that those things never mattered.

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12 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said:

Totally, becuase if a Christian supports his presidency then they must support sex with pornstars too. Great insight.

Sex with pornstars is just one aspect.  There's also the psychopathic lack of empathy, lying and the hate mongering.

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11 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said:

No. You’re the one trying to rag on evangelicals and hence, Christianity. In doing so, you post an article that determines one’s status as “evangelical” and presumably “Christian” in a way that has absolutely no correlation to what the Bible says on those matters, or even what the Bible would delineate for one in making such a determination re one’s status. A person is not an evangelical simply becuase they checked a box on a survey. Your post is unreliable and hence, unhelpful.

I’d suggest reading the Bible before taking shots at evangelicals. At a minimum, you’d be more precise in your attacks. 

 

I don't consider modern evangelicals to be Christian, much less evangelicals.  But if they self-identify as such, that makes them fair game.

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11 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

You seem to "recall" whatever suits your case. Have a link to Trump ever saying such a thing?

You really ought to start experimenting and try something other than Faux News.

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11 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said:

And yet you continued to joke about it and thought it was funny even after she apologized........ 

I didn't reference Hillary other than to bring up the 'deplorable's'  term she used. I never actually commented on her using it. I used my commentary and linked examples of posters on here that take umbrage to Trump's rhetoric but fully embrace the attacks on Trump voters and then make excuses to justify  joking or making light of insults towards Trump voters. Ya'll want it both ways.

God forbid anti-Trumper's/Never Trumper's take responsibility for their own actions. It's always Trump's fault or Trump voters fault that cause ya'll to lash out, am I right?

So Hillary called racists and white supremicists "deplorable".   How awful!!  

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48 minutes ago, homersapien said:

You really ought to start experimenting and try something other than Faux News.

Funny how the second she posted that link to him saying exactly what she said he did, the argument suddenly shifted from "you made that up" to "who am I to judge?" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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56 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Sex with pornstars is just one aspect.  There's also the psychopathic lack of empathy, lying and the hate mongering.

You only see his faults. It’s your reflexive nature. Try looking for the green grass, you’d be a happier person.

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3 hours ago, GiveEmElle said:

Ah, so suddenly because it’s your guy morals no longer matter. You didn’t elect a pastor? Well you also didn’t elect a man who will research before making a decision. You didn’t elect a man who possesses empathy and concern for all of America. You didn’t elect a man who can remain faithful to his wife, How then can he be faithful to America? You didn’t elect a man who is honest. You didn’t elect a man who is educated. You didn’t elect a man with an even temoermany. You elected a poor excuse for a leader. 

LMAO at Ms. Saint  Perfect. Trump's morals are not my major concern unless he commits a crime or such. I elected a man who has tried to keep his promises and has accomplished a lot in his first year or so in office despite having to fight the Washington swamp. He doesn't need to get rich from the office and owes no monetary political chips to lobbyists, etc. Let's face it.....you hate him which is contrary to Christian teaching that you should love not hate. It's sad that your heart is so full of hate but you have to live with it not me. But it's not for me to judge anyone. I am definitely a sinner and pray to God every day and night for forgiveness.

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23 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

You only see his faults. It’s your reflexive nature. Try looking for the green grass, you’d be a happier person.

Such as....?

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1 minute ago, homersapien said:

Such as....?

US economy growth outperformed expectations first quarter this year. Or is there an excuse for that?

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15 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

US economy growth outperformed expectations first quarter this year. Or is there an excuse for that?

What positive element of Trump's qualities effected that?  

 

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24 minutes ago, homersapien said:

What positive element of Trump's qualities effected that?  

 

Dumb question because you don’t think the man has any favorable qualities. Furthermore, you cannot separate your perception of his person from what he accomplishes in his Executive capacity. 

I can blabber off 10 accomplishments if I want, only to have you respond that very way (supra). You’re going to refute any response I’d give to that question. I can read you like a book, boy.

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1 hour ago, NolaAuTiger said:

Dumb question because you don’t think the man has any favorable qualities. Furthermore, you cannot separate your perception of his person from what he accomplishes in his Executive capacity. 

I can blabber off 10 accomplishments if I want, only to have you respond that very way (supra). You’re going to refute any response I’d give to that question. I can read you like a book, boy.

But if he 'refutes' any response you give, could you not then provide evidence as to why his refutation is faulty?  Isn't that sort of the point of a discussion?

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12 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

But if he 'refutes' any response you give, could you not then provide evidence as to why his refutation is faulty?  Isn't that sort of the point of a discussion?

No. Get real Titan. Trump could cure cancer and Homer would complain. Everyone knows that. 

I could say that part of our economy’s performance is due to the fact that our president can be an excellent negotiator at times. The response would be:

“Wrong. He’s never a good negotiator becuase I say so. *post HuffPo article* Here are some poorly negotiated deals to prove my point. See? I told you. I don’t care about the successful deals. Only mine are relevant.” 

So yeah, I’m not chasing those rabbits.

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4 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

LMAO at Ms. Saint  Perfect. Trump's morals are not my major concern unless he commits a crime or such. I elected a man who has tried to keep his promises and has accomplished a lot in his first year or so in office despite having to fight the Washington swamp. He doesn't need to get rich from the office and owes no monetary political chips to lobbyists, etc. Let's face it.....you hate him which is contrary to Christian teaching that you should love not hate. It's sad that your heart is so full of hate but you have to live with it not me. But it's not for me to judge anyone. I am definitely a sinner and pray to God every day and night for forgiveness.

First, nowhere in this thread or any other thread have I claimed to be perfect. But your snide name calling is duly noted. I absolutely love how the crowd here that constantly bashed Obama now finds it insulting for others to criticize Trump and constantly reprimands us for doing so. You guys are also very adept at referencing Christian teachings to condemn those against Trump, but don’t apply those same teachings to your own guy.  You declare that I hate Trump but ignore the fact that he said women should be treated like s***. You ignore his labeling of Hispanics as rapist and thugs. You ignore him calling black athletes sons of bitches.  Has it occurred to you that it is Trump’s racism, sexism and xenophobia that I despise? Things I’m certain Jesus despised as well. 

 

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8 hours ago, TitanTiger said:

I've been told retroactively that those things never mattered.

Amazing isn’t it?

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uugghhh, I shouldn't hace taken that hiatus....

Sheriff Mims reporting in; We must kill all foreign animals! Unless they are 1) not delicious or 2) fluffy and cute.

 

55 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said:

First, nowhere in this thread or any other thread have I claimed to be perfect. But your snide name calling is duly noted. I absolutely love how the crowd here that constantly bashed Obama now finds it insulting for others to criticize Trump and constantly reprimands us for doing so. You guys are also very adept at referencing Christian teachings to condemn those against Trump, but don’t apply those same teachings to your own guy.  You declare that I hate Trump but ignore the fact that he said women should be treated like s***. You ignore his labeling of Hispanics as rapist and thugs. You ignore him calling black athletes sons of bitches.  Has it occurred to you that it is Trump’s racism, sexism and xenophobia that I despise? Things I’m certain Jesus despised as well. 

 

Sometimes you fool me elle, but then I remember your post history and I simply giggle.

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11 hours ago, TitanTiger said:

Doubling down?  How about understanding language?  That calling someone a dum dum isn't the same as calling someone a worthless piece of s***?  Or that telling someone to buzz off isn't the same as telling them to go kill themselves?  Or that, yes, even "deplorables" is not the same as "animals." Do you not understand such distinctions in language?  One is an insult, the other literally says they are less than people.

I mean, do we not teach our children such things?  I may not ever want my kids to fuss and fight, but my response to them is going to be a lot different if I overhear one of them tell the other to "leave me alone!" vs "go to hell!"

 

You suck at building a case.  Do better or just quit trying.  Your idea of a 'smoking gun' needs work.

The moral preening you constantly engage in when it relates to Trump voters is creepy.

Speaking of sucking at building a case. Deplorable's is analogous to calling someone a bastard. They're illegitimate and not worthy of being considered as part of your group or level.

So it's more like you r children calling someone a 'bastard' vs saying 'go to hell'. Saying go to hell may be worse because that's essentially saying that you don't want that person to exist anymore but it's still ugly to call folks you disagree with as beneath you, like deplorable's. But again you don't care because you can't stand Trump voters and think they're beneath you so we know it doesn't bother you to dismiss them as such.

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55 minutes ago, Auburnfan91 said:

The moral preening you constantly engage in when it relates to Trump voters is creepy.

Speaking of sucking at building a case. Deplorable's is analogous to calling someone a bastard. They're illegitimate and not worthy of being considered as part of your group or level.

So it's more like you r children calling someone a 'bastard' vs saying 'go to hell'. Saying go to hell may be worse because that's essentially saying that you don't want that person to exist anymore but it's still ugly to call folks you disagree with as beneath you, like deplorable's. But again you don't care because you can't stand Trump voters and think they're beneath you so we know it doesn't bother you to dismiss them as such.

You simply cannot be taken seriously anymore. You make utterly idiotic false equivalencies and ridiculous analogies. 

Moral preening for saying that we shouldn’t refer to people as subhuman?  That’s rich it was a simple statement that any decent person should have no problem supporting  and I didn’t rip Trump for it, I simply said it was wrong to do and nothing good comes of such  

What I said stands. There are insults and then there is literal dehumanization.  I’m sorry you can’t understand such easy concepts. But I have better things to do that continue to argue inanities  with you. 

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We all know your salvation is assured Titan, nothing I say or attempt to show you're not perfect or always even keel with Trump voters is ever going to change that. I know you'll probably try to intercede on my behalf or other Trump voter's behalf when you go to heaven and it probably won't work and you'll get turned down but that's fine you'll have already proven you exceed the standards of what it means to be a christian. 

I must have missed the sermon in church where is said as long as you do good deeds then you can treat people that you don't like with the bare minimum of decency. Trump voters only get the bare minimum of decency. It doesn't matter whether they try to engage in a civil manner or not. We're all treated the same with disdain.

Calling folks name, no matter how mild  you think it is just isn't what I subscribe to. I go to great lengths to filter myself and not just sling insults and name calling in my posts. Insults and name calling only bring down discussion and inflame it. And yeah Trump does name call, but you and other anti-Trumper's  that you continue to side with against Trump, think that makes it okay for ya'll to do it. But at the same time ya'll bitch and moan about Trump's rhetoric but then make excuses for others who do it towards Trump voters. You want it both ways.......... Like I told Elle, you don't want to be held responsible for you own actions. If Trump can do it then so should I.......

I'll remember that defense if I'm ever charged with a crime and I'm in court. 'But Your Honor, Bush committed war crimes and water boarded terrorists. So why can't I steal a few groceries? I'm not hurting anyone Your Honor.!' 

Just because I voted for Trump doesn't mean I want to be like Trump or talk like him. I realize that dealing with people who that have so much disdain for you and your voters that expecting him to play nice is unrealistic and the reason why the GOP couldn't get anything done. Democrats and Never Trumper's show no mercy on Trump or his voters but then they want to turn around and whine about Trump being mean and unpresidential. 

That's why the moderates in the GOP are being forced out. They had their chance and failed miserably to deliver anything the last 8 years. Obamacare is a perfect example of talking tough about repeal but then when it actually came time to repeal they didn't want to do it and some fought against it. They talked the talk but didn't walk the walk.  Oh but we could have had Kasich, etc ........... or someone else in the GOP who flip flopped and decided not to support repeal. 

Kasich's Obamacare stance pretty much repelled me. That should have been one of the most basic litmus test of a 'conservative' running for president. I wonder why supporting the Democratic president's healthcare law wouldn't go over well with GOP voters? Who would have guessed that it wouldn't be a more popular stance?....... Even Jeb Bush didn't support Obamacare.

Trump may not be a conservative but he at least supported or talked about supporting enough conservative causes to win folks over. The other GOP candidates just couldn't prove that they walked the talk. Voters were ready for someone different who might actually try to do what he says he's going to do.

All the other candidates Trump beat weren't serious about securing the border either They just want to give amnesty or 'path to citizenship' and allow illegals to cut in line on their path to citizenship in front of those who are trying to enter the country legally. They're more worried about taking care of illegal citizens than they are legal citizens. Securing the border just isn't high on the list of priorities for anti-Trumper's and Never Trumper's. They view it as a waste of money. Open-borders is what they want. 

What other GOP candidate was critical of the Iraq War and didn't speak favorably of the Bush legacy? Trump didn't ride on anyone else's coattails in the GOP.  He wasn't the establishment's choice. He was his own candidate. All the other candidates, besides maybe Ted Cruz, supported the global world view of doing business and enacting policies. Trump doesn't have the magic formula to fix decades of problems that the U.S. has been forced to endure but Trump is attempting to at least steer us in the right direction.

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That’s a lot of words to basically say I’m going to exaggerate the hell out of what ever Titan says. 

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6 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

That’s a lot of words to basically say I’m going to exaggerate the hell out of what ever Titan says. 

Big walls of obfuscatory bull**** are his forté, apparently.