keesler 5,924 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, PoetTiger said: It seems to me the guy with the biggest checkbook wants Gus to stay. I mean how damn hard is it to fire someone, especially if everyone says the money is not an issue. Fire him and move on or stop with all this foolishness. YES YES YES! If money is no problem then cut bait and go catch the Big Fish (Stoops) and pay him Fisher type guaranteed money. Instead, the freaking President jets his ass off to DC while money bags Harbert is left at the table trying desperately to cut Gus' ballz off in an effort to neuter him so badly that he'll forego the massive buyout that Harbert backed only 12 months ago. No wonder Bob Stoops said this whole damn thing is ridiculous, untruthful, and totally based on speculation with no basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: If one of the most important responsibilities of your job is to find people and get rid of them and the first time you need to get rid of someone, the CEO of the company (who has no business doing anything outside of strategizing business goals)goes over your head to keep that person, then you have a very toxic company wide problem. Exactly. The problem lies at the top (Leathe). Green is not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerOfDixieland 3,226 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, TitanTiger said: @aujeff11 and @Eagle Eye 7, can you two take that to PM? I was kind of enjoying it. Fight, fight, fight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,229 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Really not sure why Gus would take it... Incredibly odd. It's in each other's best interests to move on and Gus would get paid more. So Auburn. We're still in purgatory. LSU purgatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: Not on highering middle Management on a corporate level. Not at all. I work for a massive corporation. Our CEO likely doesn't know who I am or my boss and has no knowledge that I was even hired. Leath is a CEO of a massive business operation. It's not his job to handle coaching contracts. It's his job to strategize for the University and delegate responsibilities responsibly. I too work for a massive corporation. One of the largest in the world actually. The CEO certainly has no idea who I am. But the executives above my hiring manager do and they would sign off on my hiring/firing. It's all about levels. Green is a direct report to Leath and the football coach is a major role under Green, so yes, Leath would sign off on that hire despite being the CEO in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChltteTiger 649 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Can this thread be merged with the new one that broke the PM article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,012 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said: Exactly. The problem lies at the top (Leathe). Green is not the problem. Greene should be doing everything in his power to preserve his responsibilities. Even if that means injecting himself into the situation. And he shouldn't be afraid of being let go if he's not willing to bend over the first time Leath tells him to. That's what difference between a good leader and a putz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,993 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 48 minutes ago, WarEagle2423 said: Not saying I agree or think it’s true, but this is what BM said. If he truly believe this then what was the point of seeking more money AND a huge buyout with guarantees? Lol . Security yes but no he is renogotiating against himself with his arms tied behind is back. This makes very little sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinPat 2,579 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Well this has been a day of my life I’ll never get back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChltteTiger 649 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 And while we are at it someone start a FIRE LEATH thread. If I start one it will get locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,012 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said: I too work for a massive corporation. One of the largest in the world actually. The CEO certainly has no idea who I am. But the executives above my hiring manager do and they would sign off on my hiring/firing. It's all about levels. Green is a direct report to Leath and the football coach is a major role under Green, so yes, Leath would sign off on that hire despite being the CEO in this situation. Leath isn't just an executive level manager. Greene is. Leath is the CEO. The buck should stop with Greene. That's literally what his job is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, AuCivilEng1 said: Greene should be doing everything in his power to preserve his responsibilities. Even if that means injecting himself into the situation. And he shouldn't be afraid of being let go if he's not willing to bend over the first time Leath tells him to. That's what difference between a good leader and a putz. Maybe he's picking his battles? Greene apparently went to bat for Pearl with Leath and won, which I'm sure gave him a lot of credibility with boosters. Could be that he views this situation differently. If Gus is fired in a year or so and Leath is gone because of his mismanagement, Greene comes out smelling like a rose with full autonomy to hire anyone he wants. Playing the long game here is likely his smartest move. Impulsive moves are the ones made by fools. I don't think Greene is a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,099 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said: Maybe he's picking his battles? Greene apparently went to bat for Pearl with Leath and won, which I'm sure gave him a lot of credibility with boosters. Could be that he views this situation differently. If Gus is fired in a year or so and Leath is gone because of his mismanagement, Greene comes out smelling like a rose with full autonomy to hire anyone he wants. Playing the long game here is likely his smartest move. Impulsive moves are the ones made by fools. I don't think Greene is a fool. Come on man. This is a complete cluster by the entire school admin! We again look like a bunch of fools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 From BamaOnline: "We're minutes away from a 'Leath is a REC plant' post" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinPat 2,579 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 This whole crapshow just shows why we can’t have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFanAU 586 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, DAG said: If he truly believe this then what was the point of seeking more money AND a huge buyout with guarantees? Lol . Security yes but no he is renogotiating against himself with his arms tied behind is back. This makes very little sense. It doesn't make much sense at all. Maybe Gus has found a new job and we're renogitating since he's leaving (think Les Miles and Kansas, which reduced his LSU buyout). Or Gus is just a real nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,203 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 like sand through an hourglass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, AU-24 said: Come on man. This is a complete cluster by the entire school admin! We again look like a bunch of fools! The leadership from the very top leaves a lot to be desired. Leath is atrocious. But Greene has shown me nothing to make me doubt him to this point. In fact, I dare say he's much more of a calculated leader than we're used to at AU, and that's a good thing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,012 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said: Maybe he's picking his battles? Greene apparently went to bat for Pearl with Leath and won, which I'm sure gave him a lot of credibility with boosters. Could be that he views this situation differently. If Gus is fired in a year or so and Leath is gone because of his mismanagement, Greene comes out smelling like a rose with full autonomy to hire anyone he wants. Playing the long game here is likely his smartest move. Impulsive moves are the ones made by fools. I don't think Greene is a fool. I wouldnt play the long game here. He doesn't have time for that. Look around you. Greene is getting blame for this debacle just as much as anyone, because it's his job to insure that this kind of garbage doesn't happen. Certainly not while Alabama is only getting stronger. This needs to be fixed fast or Auburn football is about to be busted for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wareagleguy 1,393 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: From BamaOnline: "We're minutes away from a 'Leath is a REC plant' post" Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,099 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said: The leadership from the very top leaves a lot to be desired. Leath is atrocious. But Greene has shown me nothing to make me doubt him to this point. In fact, I dare say he's much more of a calculated leader than we're used to at AU, and that's a good thing IMO. So he is calculating to stay completely out of this process? To include everything going on with the assistance etc.? That is calculating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChltteTiger 649 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: From BamaOnline: "We're minutes away from a 'Leath is a REC plant' post" sounds plausible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctiger 571 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, DAG said: If he truly believe this then what was the point of seeking more money AND a huge buyout with guarantees? Lol . Security yes but no he is renogotiating against himself with his arms tied behind is back. This makes very little sense. Gus's play-calling and recruiting makes very little sense and acting like his arms are tied behind his back. What Gus has done is tie Chip's arms behind his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,012 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: The leadership from the very top leaves a lot to be desired. Leath is atrocious. But Greene has shown me nothing to make me doubt him to this point. In fact, I dare say he's much more of a calculated leader than we're used to at AU, and that's a good thing IMO. He hasn't done anything yet to lose me either, but if this ridiculous excuse of a deal goes down, he's going to effectively being part of an administration that put us on probation without even being in trouble. That's worse than anything Jay Jacobs ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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