Rush Limbaugh has advanced lung cancer

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

10 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

buy you lunch and a cold beverage just to meet the legend..............

Legends like Bo or Golf never have to pay when out in Auburn.......it’s always on the house.

 

13 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

it is on the main drag coming in from the  highway the best i remember.

Lived on that drag in school in a “penthouse over garage apartment”. Still there is a connivence store that used to have a laundromat by it. Discovered marijuana plants growing beside the laundromat....can’t recall anyone ever messing with them

[augolf1716 21,205]

52 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

On North College isn’t it? 

I believe so I remember the mileage sign to Alec City and Bham also looks like a Mustang GT 390 just to the left of the sign. Could be wrong about the Mustang

[McLoofus 35,182]

18 minutes ago, augolf1716 said:

I believe so I remember the mileage sign to Alec City and Bham also looks like a Mustang GT 390 just to the left of the sign. Could be wrong about the Mustang

Every time I drive to AC or Bham via Auburn, I see the sign for Waverly, and I think about when I was at Auburn and people said that dudes in Waverly liked to have conjugal visits with watermelons. 

[augolf1716 21,205]

19 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Every time I drive to AC or Bham via Auburn, I see the sign for Waverly, and I think about when I was at Auburn and people said that dudes in Waverly liked to have conjugal visits with watermelons. 

I wouldn't know anything about that 

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

44 minutes ago, augolf1716 said:

I believe so I remember the mileage sign to Alec City and Bham also looks like a Mustang GT 390 just to the left of the sign. Could be wrong about the Mustang

Pretty sure you are right about the Mustang. The car heading north appears to be a Chevy Bel Air? BTW, I have always questioned the mileage sign accuracy when seeing  fiddys post.  B'ham should have been 129 miles. Alex City appears correct. I recall a mileage sign well north of Alex City on the east bound side of 280 claiming Auburn was 38 miles. Never could figure that one and it always troubled me......by air maybe? 

[McLoofus 35,182]

27 minutes ago, augolf1716 said:

I wouldn't know anything about that 

So it IS true. 

[aubiefifty 16,803]

1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said:

Legends like Bo or Golf never have to pay when out in Auburn.......it’s always on the house.

 

Lived on that drag in school in a “penthouse over garage apartment”. Still there is a connivence store that used to have a laundromat by it. Discovered marijuana plants growing beside the laundromat....can’t recall anyone ever messing with them

are they still there? lol

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

Just now, aubiefifty said:

are they still there? lol

Not sure. Wife and I were driving by there the other day and I told her we should check. I used the laundry on most Friday afternoons and had a few beers while doing so. The secluded area beside the laundry was my choice for the restroom hence the discovery. Thing I figured was that others used the area for a smoke during laundry time and maybe dropped some seeds. Friend and I always checked the plants while walking to school......nice plants.

[I_M4_AU 7,853]

23 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

As much damage as the man did to this nation, i pray for his family’s peace. But as to the man’s legacy, we will be paying for his demagoguery for decades. His damage to America is unimaginable. 

Do we have a vehicle that can print or speak a dissenting view and not be castigated by the main stream?

[homersapien 11,386]

19 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Do we have a vehicle that can print or speak a dissenting view and not be castigated by the main stream?

"dissenting view"  !!! 

That's the most absurdly euphemistic characterization of what Rush Limbaugh was about that I could imagine 

It fact, it illustrates the real evil he represented.  What a ditto head!

[I_M4_AU 7,853]

3 minutes ago, homersapien said:

"dissenting view"  !!! 

That's the most absurdly euphemistic characterization of what Rush Limbaugh was about that I could imagine 

It fact, it illustrates the real evil he represented.  What a ditto head!

Do you think he was hated just for some of his rhetoric or was it his pushback on the Main Stream Media’s monopoly on the *truth*?

[homersapien 11,386]

20 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

Do you think he was hated just for some of his rhetoric or was it his pushback on the Main Stream Media’s monopoly on the *truth*?

Truth???    What "push back" on the "Main Stream Media's monopoly on the "truth"?  

Only a white supremacist ditto head could see any "truth" in the racist, misogynistic, xenophobic poison that emanated from Rush Limbaugh. 

I suppose it's debatable as to whether or not he actually believed any of this hateful crap himself (I tend to think he did).  But he certainly knew his audience.  Sounds like you fit.

[I_M4_AU 7,853]

14 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Truth???    What "push back" on the "Main Stream Media's monopoly on the "truth"?  

Only a white supremacist ditto head could see any "truth" in the racist, misogynistic, xenophobic poison that emanated from Rush Limbaugh. 

I suppose it's debatable as to whether or not he actually believed any of this hateful crap himself (I tend to think he did).  But he certainly knew his audience.  Sounds like you fit.

Your racist shtick is getting old.

[homersapien 11,386]

1 minute ago, I_M4_AU said:

Your racist schist is getting old.

I bet you thought "Barrack the magic negro" was funny didn't you?

(BTW "schist" is a type of rock. )

[CoffeeTiger 5,114]

18 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Do you think he was hated just for some of his rhetoric or was it his pushback on the Main Stream Media’s monopoly on the *truth*?

Rush Limbaugh's *Truth* was things like '2nd hand smoke from smokers isn't bad for health' 'HIV only affects the gays' 'covid-19 is NOTHING more than a common cold' 'the Deepwater horizon oil spill wasn't really damaging for the environment' , ' he even once said that the international community was only going after the noted African terrorist Joseph Koney because he was a "Christian" etc.,. 

 

Problem with Rush Limbaugh is that most of his anti-mainstream "Truths" were just random, dumb s*** he made up in his head and had no proof, evidence or reasoning behind  other than his gullible listeners wanted those things to be true and would continue to listen to him if he said they were. Limbaugh never was a news agency or a source for truth, he was just a shock jock radio host that made money off of controversy. 

 

 

 

[I_M4_AU 7,853]

14 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Rush Limbaugh's *Truth* was things like '2nd hand smoke from smokers isn't bad for health' 'HIV only affects the gays' 'covid-19 is NOTHING more than a common cold' 'the Deepwater horizon oil spill wasn't really damaging for the environment' , ' he even once said that the international community was only going after the noted African terrorist Joseph Koney because he was a "Christian" etc.,. 

 

Problem with Rush Limbaugh is that most of his anti-mainstream "Truths" were just random, dumb s*** he made up in his head and had no proof, evidence or reasoning behind  other than his gullible listeners wanted those things to be true and would continue to listen to him if he said they were. Limbaugh never was a news agency or a source for truth, he was just a shock jock radio host that made money off of controversy. 

 

 

 

I’m guessing you haven’t listened to him as you are quoting things that most of the media is feeding you.  HIs audience was the truck driving/non-college educated Americans that found him entertaining and brought a different view to them in a humorous way.  He spent 30 years in the business and for that he has been recognized as the father of alternative news.

Now we have Facebook, Twitter, et al to spread the brand of *news* people like.  Rush was popular in a niche (AM radio) that no longer exists, but was able to launch a lot more conservative voices that are more mainstream than he was.  At the end of his career his influence was not as strong, but the way he approached the end was admirable.  He probably was a reason FOX is popular and a differing view is not all bad, is it?  Should we eliminate anything you don’t believe is truth?

As we have seen the MSM is not always truth seekers as they too made up stuff and had no proof (Russia, collusion, quid pro quo, etc).

I am sure a lot of these op ed authors won’t be performing his eulogy.

 

[aubiefifty 16,803]

i remember him saying about twelve year old chelsea clinton that she looked like a dog. he played some weird song making fun of aids victims while making fun of them and reciting the names of those that had died the past week or month. he called the school shooting victims fake and saying it never happened. i mean we can go on and on and on. the man was a piece of crap, i am sorry but anyone that likes this man sucks, period.

[homersapien 11,386]

37 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

I’m guessing you haven’t listened to him as you are quoting things that most of the media is feeding you.  HIs audience was the truck driving/non-college educated Americans that found him entertaining and brought a different view to them in a humorous way.  He spent 30 years in the business and for that he has been recognized as the father of alternative news.

Now we have Facebook, Twitter, et al to spread the brand of *news* people like.  Rush was popular in a niche (AM radio) that no longer exists, but was able to launch a lot more conservative voices that are more mainstream than he was.  At the end of his career his influence was not as strong, but the way he approached the end was admirable.  He probably was a reason FOX is popular and a differing view is not all bad, is it?  Should we eliminate anything you don’t believe is truth?

As we have seen the MSM is not always truth seekers as they too made up stuff and had no proof (Russia, collusion, quid pro quo, etc).

I am sure a lot of these op ed authors won’t be performing his eulogy.

 

Lame Limbaugh obits: Mainstream media fawns over a toxic bigot who poisoned our politics

Major media finally turned against Trump — but keeps on normalizing the culture of hatred that made him possible

Leaders of our elite newsrooms had a full year to figure out how they were going to frame Rush Limbaugh's life. 

He announced he was dying of lung cancer last February, right before Donald Trump gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor. It was a striking moment, symbolic of how thoroughly Limbaugh's moral rot had infected the body politic, all the way to the presidency and its most hallowed traditions.

In the ensuing months, even the most stubbornly aloof mainstream news organizations began to publicly acknowledge Trump as a liar, a failure, a loser and an inciter of division and violence. 

But calling out the hatred and bigotry that Trump established as the central tenets of the modern Republican Party remains a step too far. Our newsroom leaders still cannot bring themselves to declare that the hysteria and conspiracy theories that once only inhabited the lunatic fringes of our political discourse — until Rush Limbaugh, and then Donald Trump, came along — don't merit respect, but should be banished, rejected and denied.

And that is why, even with a year to pre-write and edit them, major media outlets on Wednesday published obituaries celebrating Limbaugh's extraordinary success as a "conservative provocateur." They whitewashed his once-unimaginably vile and divisive demagoguery as "comic bombast." They hailed him as "the voice of American conservatism," when what really matters about Rush Limbaugh is that he spread hatred more effectively and lucratively than any American before him. He didn't hide his bigotry and, eventually, neither did the Republican Party. 

Even if you are trying to avoid hyperbole, it's not hard to come up with a top for a defensible Limbaugh obit. You could write something like:

He pushed the national political discourse far to the right, giving voice to racism, misogyny and conspiracy theories that became central to the rise of Trump and the radicalization of the Republican Party.

Heck, you could simply publish some of the horrible things he said, fairly high up in the story.

Instead, too many mainstream media obituaries reflected admiration for the guy, starting with the headlines. 

"Rush Limbaugh, conservative radio provocateur and cultural phenomenon, dies at 70," proclaimed the Washington Post. Limbaugh, veteran reporter Marc Fisher wrote, "deployed comic bombast and relentless bashing of liberals, feminists and environmentalists to become the nation's most popular radio talk-show host and lead the Republican Party into a politics of anger and obstruction."

As Daily Beast media reporter Max Tani tweeted: "i imagine many people did not find the bombast to be comical." No kidding.

Fisher basically subscribed to Limbaugh's own assessment of his achievements:

He saw himself as a teacher, polemicist, media critic and GOP strategist, but above all as an entertainer and salesman. Mr. Limbaugh mocked Democrats and liberals, touted a traditional Midwestern, moralistic patriotism and presented himself on the air as a biting but jovial know-it-all who pontificated "with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair," as he often said.

Fisher euphemistically described Limbaugh's grotesque villainization of his political enemies as "demonizing liberals and pushing conservative elected officials to hard lines on issues such as immigration, government spending and denial of global warming."

And he belittled Limbaugh's critics as humorless:

Although critics of the show spent decades decrying it as offensive, even cruel, his fans defended Mr. Limbaugh's insults as more funny than slashing. He won attention from far beyond his radio audience with barbs aimed at gays; Blacks; liberals; feminists, whom he sometimes called "feminazis"; and environmentalists, whom he derided as "tree-huggers."

The Associated Press obituary, by Matt Sedensky, which is certain to appear in countless newspapers, was headlined "Rush Limbaugh, 'voice of American conservatism,' has died." That was the AP's own characterization, despite the quotation marks. The story quoted Ronald Reagan calling him "the number one voice for conservatism," which is a bit different. 

The lead paragraph was effusive:

Rush Limbaugh, the talk radio host who ripped into liberals and laid waste to political correctness with a gleeful malice that made him one of the most powerful voices in politics, influencing the rightward push of American conservatism and the rise of Donald Trump, died Wednesday. He was 70.

So was the third:

Unflinchingly conservative, wildly partisan, bombastically self-promoting and larger than life, Limbaugh galvanized listeners for more than 30 years with his talent for sarcastic, insult-laced commentary.

So was the eighth:

Limbaugh took as a badge of honor the title "most dangerous man in America." He said he was the "truth detector," the "doctor of democracy," a "lover of mankind," a "harmless, lovable little fuzz ball" and an "all-around good guy." He claimed he had "talent on loan from God."

It wasn't until the ninth paragraph that you read about Limbaugh calling his enemies "feminazis" or deploying anti-gay slurs.

It wasn't until the 10th that you got a taste of his incredible cruelty: 

When actor Michael J. Fox, suffering from Parkinson's disease, appeared in a Democratic campaign commercial, Limbaugh mocked his tremors. When a Washington advocate for the homeless killed himself, he cracked jokes. As the AIDS epidemic raged in the 1980s, he made the dying a punchline. He called 12-year-old Chelsea Clinton a dog.

Even then, the article only referred to "accusations" of bigotry and racism — until, way down toward the end, there was an indication of his real legacy — from a critic, of course:

"What he did was to bring a paranoia and really mean, nasty rhetoric and hyperpartisanship into the mainstream," said Martin Kaplan, a University of Southern California professor who is an expert on the intersection of politics and entertainment and a frequent critic of Limbaugh. "The kind of antagonism and vituperativeness that characterized him instantly became acceptable everywhere."

At NPR, David Folkenflik's obit anemically referred to Limbaugh as a "conservative broadcaster … who entertained millions and propelled waves of Republican politicians." 

Maybe some news organizations were caught by surprise by Limbaugh's demise, although I don't quite understand how that could have happened. 

At the Los Angeles Times, the original obituary describing Limbaugh as a "controversial and widely influential conservative radio personality," was eventually updated, with Dorany Pineda noting Limbaugh's sway over Republican leaders and concluding that "In ways both big and small, it was Limbaugh who arose as the architect of the deep political and cultural divides in America that came into full focus during the Trump era."

The first version of the obituary posted by the New York Times, by Robert McFadden, was dramatically revised three or four hours later, with the additional byline of media writer Michael Grynbaum.

The headline calling Limbaugh "Talk Radio's Conservative Provocateur" was changed to say that he had "Turned Talk Radio Into a Right-Wing Attack Machine." Limbaugh was no longer "a divisive darling of the right," thank goodness. Instead, the Times wrote: 

He became a singular figure in the American media, fomenting mistrust, grievances and even hatred on the right for Americans who did not share their views, and he pushed baseless claims and toxic rumors long before Twitter and Reddit became havens for such disinformation. In politics, he was not only an ally of Mr. Trump but also a precursor, combining media fame, right-wing scare tactics and over-the-top showmanship to build an enormous fan base and mount attacks on truth and facts.

His conspiracy theories ranged from baldfaced lies about Barack Obama's birthplace — the president "has yet to have to prove that he's a citizen," he said falsely in 2009 — to claims that Mr. Obama's 2009 health care bill would empower "death panels" and "euthanize" elderly Americans. In the wake of last year's election, he amplified Mr. Trump's groundless claims of voter fraud; on President Biden's Inauguration Day, during one of his final broadcasts, he insisted to listeners that the new administration had "not legitimately won it."

Even that was euphemistic. For the real story, you had to read Nick Robins-Early and Christopher Mathias' obituary on HuffPost, running under the headline "Rush Limbaugh, Bigoted King of Talk Radio, Dies at 70." They made an overwhelming case in support of the headline:

Once, after arguing with a Black man who called into his show, he told the caller to "take that bone out of your nose and call me back." Another time, Limbaugh asked his audience, "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" while discussing the Black civil rights activist and politician. Limbaugh once ludicrously asserted that "if any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it's Caucasians." He invited a guest on air who sang "Barack, the Magic Negro" to the tune of "Puff, the Magic Dragon." In 2016, he read an essay on air that had been penned by a well-known white supremacist.

Limbaugh's radio career was also one long exercise in misogyny, perhaps best summed up by his thesis that "feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." 

Nearly every marginalized group or minority bore the brunt of Limbaugh's bigotry. Once, while speaking about the genocide of America's indigenous peoples, Limbaugh said, "Holocaust 90 million Indians? Only 4 million left? They all have casinos, what's to complain about?"

Limbaugh frequently mirrored white nationalist talking points when discussing Latino immigrants, whom he described as lazy and dependent on the government. He called migrants at America's southern border an "invasion." 

An opponent of marriage equality — which he suggested was "perverted" and "depraved" — Limbaugh argued in 2016 that legalizing gay marriage would lead to bestiality. "What happens if you love your dog?" he said. He once referred to transgender people as being mentally ill. 

Throughout the 1980s and '90s, Limbaugh also frequently denigrated those who were HIV positive, saying the best way to stop the spread of the virus was to "not ask another man to bend over and make love at the exit point." He spoke out against federal funding to fight the virus too, calling it the "only federally protected virus." 

Alex Walker at Media Matters also summed up Limbaugh's legacy with admirable bluntness:

Limbaugh entertained an audience that was primarily composed of older, white conservative men by mocking women, minorities, and anyone else who did not embody his default listener — setting the tone for the toxic, cruel politics of the modern-day conservative movement.

There's no denying Limbaugh was a giant, and that his life makes a helluva story. But his legacy is not a media empire, it's his extraordinary influence on the rise of far-right, white-supremacist, reality-denying nationalism. He, as much as anyone, brought us Trump: the constant lying, the virulent racism and misogyny, the hostility toward governing, the corruption, and ultimately COVID denialism and insurrection.

The Limbaugh obituaries are a good test of whether mainstream news organizations are ready to call out the radical, hate-filled hysteria that preceded Trump and will clearly survive him, or whether they are going to go right back to normalizing it. The signs are not good.

Dan Froomkin

https://www.salon.com/2021/02/18/lame-limbaugh-obits-media-fawns-over-the-toxic-bigot-who-poisoned-our-politics/

 

 

[woodford 3,659]

Salon 😂

[homersapien 11,386]

4 minutes ago, woodford said:

Salon 😂

Can't dispute the content?  Ridicule the source.

Unfortunately (for you) facts are facts.

(And the author was Dan Froomkin, the publisher was "Salon".  There's a difference. )

[McLoofus 35,182]

Always amusing how the fringe right apologists prove exactly what's wrong with the fringe right in their apologizin'. 

[DKW 86 7,426]

56 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Can't dispute the content?  DISMISS the source.

It as derigeur on this site as a Whataboutism is from some. 

[aubiefifty 16,803]

i forgot to add he said james earl jones should get a posthumous award for killing martin luther king. this guy is an idiot.

[McLoofus 35,182]

21 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

i forgot to add he said james earl jones should get a posthumous award for killing martin luther king. this guy is an idiot.

We all know who you meant, but I am compelled to offer the gentle correction: James Earl Ray.

I'm sure that Limbaugh now has the opportunity and as much time as he needs to polish Ray's knob up close and personal.

[aubiefifty 16,803]

3 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

We all know who you meant, but I am compelled to offer the gentle correction: James Earl Ray.

I'm sure that Limbaugh now has the opportunity and as much time as he needs to polish Ray's knob up close and personal.

dammit i hate getting old but i do not care for the alternative! i was trying to get my thoughts together on skin cancer on a post i left on the football board. i guess next i will not be able to walk and chew bubble gum next...............but thanx loof