aubiefifty 16,903 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, SocialCircle said: I have repeatedly said Trump could have handled this better. However, there is plenty of blame to go around. I am fully aware of Trump's faults in this regard, but you hide your head in the sand, for example, when it comes to those governors who put the elderly who had tested positive back into those facilities. you mean like jawja's gov deciding not to release all the covid facts concerning cases and death etc because it makes the repubs look bad? people having to sue to find out what their kids are getting into at a certain school? ok with that............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, homersapien said: How many of our 206,000 deaths to those nursing home residents account for? I am not putting my head in the sand, you are. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/he-has-delivered-for-new-york-cuomo-praises-trumps-coronavirus-response/2371465/ Of course, his tune changed once we got closer to the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, DAG said: Look like you have gotten placed in the crossfire lol. I will say a good bit of Wisconsinites (which also is a battleground state) feels exactly the same way you do. I actually got my absentee ballot today and completed it. I don’t think the debate yesterday swayed many of the middle ground folks one way or another just yet. However, I will say it seems like a slight lean to Biden from my perspective . I’m just trying to dodge shrapnel, just like I was last night!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, aubiefifty said: you mean like jawja's gov deciding not to release all the covid facts concerning cases and death etc because it makes the repubs look bad? people having to sue to find out what their kids are getting into at a certain school? ok with that............ I've already indicated I think it is wise for all public school systems to publish their info just like my system does on every Friday. You even liked the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 18 hours ago, AUFriction said: I have a really hard question for you all. Will you condemn white supremicism? Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Grumps said: Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Answer it! Stand-by.....lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,510 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 “The Family Is Worried Brad Will Start Talking”: Trumpworld Panics Over Debate Fiasco as Campaign Turmoil Mounts Gabriel Sherman September 30, 2020 Donald Trump’s campaign is still assessing the political damage from Tuesday night’s chaotic first presidential debate. The president’s refusal to condemn white supremacists, of course, is the immediate crisis. “He blew that for sure,” a campaign adviser told me. “It’s nuts,” a former West Wing official said wearily, sounding like a storm survivor with PTSD. “Total lunacy,” said another former White House staffer, who remains close to the campaign. “Trump didn’t win over any voters, and he pissed off a lot of people,” added a prominent Republican. Trump advisers agree on what he needs to do differently at the next debate. “He has to just relax and let Joe Biden speak,” said the ex-official, who remains close to the White House. But Republicans are resigned to the fact that Trump is unlikely––or unwilling––to course-correct. “Trump thinks he won. He didn’t,” said another Republican with ties to the campaign. “But does anyone have the balls to tell him that? No. They’d be fired.” Trump doesn’t accept the consensus that the debate was a disaster because, sources said, he was unabashedly himself. “The thing about the debate is people got to see why no one that has any integrity can work for Trump. This is what Trump is like in the Oval Office every day. It’s why [John] Kelly left. It’s why [Jim] Mattis quit,” said the prominent Republican. “Trump doesn’t let anyone else speak. He really doesn’t care what you have to say. He demeans people. He talks over them. And everyone around him thinks it’s getting worse.” Inside Trumpworld there’s a view that the past week is an inflection point in the campaign. It started on Sunday night with the bombshell New York Times report that Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017. “For Trump the Times story was worse than losing reelection,” said the second Republican. “If you had told Donald back in 2015 that his tax returns would be exposed and he’d have all these investigations, I guarantee you he wouldn’t have run.” As the Times story lit up cable news and Twitter, news broke that Trump’s former campaign manager Brad Parscale had been taken into custody outside his Ft. Lauderdale home and hospitalized after threatening to commit suicide and allegedly beating his wife days prior. Police body camera footage showing an officer brutally tackling a shirtless, 6’8” Parscale to the pavement instantly became a visual metaphor for the chaos engulfing the Trump campaign. One campaign adviser I spoke with was shocked by the amount of force the police used to subdue and cuff Parscale. “If Brad had been Black, there would be riots all over the country,” the source said. (In fact, police have killed unarmed Black men in far less hostile situations.) Parscale’s public meltdown happened while he is reportedly under investigation for stealing from the Trump campaign and the RNC. According to the source close to the campaign, the Trump family is worried that Parscale could turn on them and cooperate with law enforcement about possible campaign finance violations. “The family is worried Brad will start talking,” the source said. In response the Trump campaign’s communications director, Tim Murtaugh, said: “It’s utterly false. There is no investigation, no audit, and there never was.” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/trumpworld-panics-over-debate-fiasco-as-campaign-turmoil-mounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,903 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 hours ago, SocialCircle said: I've already indicated I think it is wise for all public school systems to publish their info just like my system does on every Friday. You even liked the post. yes yes i did. the point is how can you know repub govs are not lying when they refuse to release the numbers of those getting sick in school. it is called dishoesty where i come from. you are saying the right did better with covid but hell they are not telling the truth. also ga and fl both were busted trying to fudge the numbers. hell go look it up because you will not believe me and i have posted them once before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,580 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 One aspect I found humorous was Biden repeatedly making comments about Trump coming out of his bunker. I thought, Joe, that's not the best choice of words to be using. It would've been way too easy to flip that back onto him...for a competent debater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, aubiefifty said: yes yes i did. the point is how can you know repub govs are not lying when they refuse to release the numbers of those getting sick in school. it is called dishoesty where i come from. you are saying the right did better with covid but hell they are not telling the truth. also ga and fl both were busted trying to fudge the numbers. hell go look it up because you will not believe me and i have posted them once before. Go tell the mayor of Nashville about hiding info from the public. I agree everyone should report accurate numbers. I do think sometimes mistakes are made, but sometimes (like in Nashville) the truth is known but it is not disclosed to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 10 hours ago, TitanTiger said: “The Family Is Worried Brad Will Start Talking”: Trumpworld Panics Over Debate Fiasco as Campaign Turmoil Mounts Gabriel Sherman September 30, 2020 Donald Trump’s campaign is still assessing the political damage from Tuesday night’s chaotic first presidential debate. The president’s refusal to condemn white supremacists, of course, is the immediate crisis. “He blew that for sure,” a campaign adviser told me. “It’s nuts,” a former West Wing official said wearily, sounding like a storm survivor with PTSD. “Total lunacy,” said another former White House staffer, who remains close to the campaign. “Trump didn’t win over any voters, and he pissed off a lot of people,” added a prominent Republican. Trump advisers agree on what he needs to do differently at the next debate. “He has to just relax and let Joe Biden speak,” said the ex-official, who remains close to the White House. But Republicans are resigned to the fact that Trump is unlikely––or unwilling––to course-correct. “Trump thinks he won. He didn’t,” said another Republican with ties to the campaign. “But does anyone have the balls to tell him that? No. They’d be fired.” Trump doesn’t accept the consensus that the debate was a disaster because, sources said, he was unabashedly himself. “The thing about the debate is people got to see why no one that has any integrity can work for Trump. This is what Trump is like in the Oval Office every day. It’s why [John] Kelly left. It’s why [Jim] Mattis quit,” said the prominent Republican. “Trump doesn’t let anyone else speak. He really doesn’t care what you have to say. He demeans people. He talks over them. And everyone around him thinks it’s getting worse.” Inside Trumpworld there’s a view that the past week is an inflection point in the campaign. It started on Sunday night with the bombshell New York Times report that Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017. “For Trump the Times story was worse than losing reelection,” said the second Republican. “If you had told Donald back in 2015 that his tax returns would be exposed and he’d have all these investigations, I guarantee you he wouldn’t have run.” As the Times story lit up cable news and Twitter, news broke that Trump’s former campaign manager Brad Parscale had been taken into custody outside his Ft. Lauderdale home and hospitalized after threatening to commit suicide and allegedly beating his wife days prior. Police body camera footage showing an officer brutally tackling a shirtless, 6’8” Parscale to the pavement instantly became a visual metaphor for the chaos engulfing the Trump campaign. One campaign adviser I spoke with was shocked by the amount of force the police used to subdue and cuff Parscale. “If Brad had been Black, there would be riots all over the country,” the source said. (In fact, police have killed unarmed Black men in far less hostile situations.) Parscale’s public meltdown happened while he is reportedly under investigation for stealing from the Trump campaign and the RNC. According to the source close to the campaign, the Trump family is worried that Parscale could turn on them and cooperate with law enforcement about possible campaign finance violations. “The family is worried Brad will start talking,” the source said. In response the Trump campaign’s communications director, Tim Murtaugh, said: “It’s utterly false. There is no investigation, no audit, and there never was.” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/trumpworld-panics-over-debate-fiasco-as-campaign-turmoil-mounts Is Vanity Fair a good source to use in this forum? https://100percentfedup.com/vanity-fair-abandons-every-ounce-of-journalistic-integrity-with-sick-article-by-former-gossip-editor-claiming-trump-finalizes-plan-to-poison-60-of-nations-waterways/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,510 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: Is Vanity Fair a good source to use in this forum? https://100percentfedup.com/vanity-fair-abandons-every-ounce-of-journalistic-integrity-with-sick-article-by-former-gossip-editor-claiming-trump-finalizes-plan-to-poison-60-of-nations-waterways/ Yes. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/ Now, your source on the other hand... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/100-percent-fed-up/ Your idiotic article is complaining about an editorial, with a headline that's intentionally snarky and abrasive. Not to mention, your site doesn't even say what is wrong with the article's premise - which is a smartass take on a NYT story about Trump rolling back environmental rules. Their complaint seems to boil down not to factual issues, but basically "VF said mean things that are true." The fact that you even bother reading such a site, much less think that a post from it should be taken seriously calls your credibility on pretty much anything into question. Stop wasting my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: Yes. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/ Now, your source on the other hand... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/100-percent-fed-up/ Your idiotic article is complaining about an editorial, with a headline that's intentionally snarky and abrasive. Not to mention, your site doesn't even say what is wrong with the article's premise - which is a smartass take on a NYT story about Trump rolling back environmental rules. Their complaint seems to boil down not to factual issues, but basically "VF said mean things that are true." The fact that you even bother reading such a site, much less think that a post from it should be taken seriously calls your credibility on pretty much anything into question. Stop wasting my time. Just pointing our VF is far left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,510 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: Just pointing our VF is far left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: The VF article you posted reeks of an anonymous left wing hit job like the story saying Trump called vets losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,510 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, SocialCircle said: The VF article you posted reeks of an anonymous left wing hit job like the story saying Trump called vets losers. Look, you can either post a rebuttal of the facts and claims in the article, or you can go sit in the corner and color (which to be honest is probably more your speed), but "THAIR BIASED, PAWWWWL" isn't an argument that's going to fly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: Look, you can either post a rebuttal of the facts and claims in the article, or you can go sit in the corner and color (which to be honest is probably more your speed), but "THAIR BIASED, PAWWWWL" isn't an argument that's going to fly here. I am very skeptical of articles like this that are clearly biased and refuse to name a single source. I think any wise person would be skeptical of articles like this. These articles waste my time, so I'll pick coloring in the corner for $100 Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,654 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: ...or you can go sit in the corner and color (which to be honest is probably more your speed)... Reminds me of the videos of chimpanzees training for the space program. They sit in a chair flipping switches, so proud they're doing well, but you know if they ever had control over anything they'd crash everyone into the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,026 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SocialCircle said: Just pointing our VF is far left. What’s your point? It’s also “mostly factual”. 100 percent fed up is far right and “low factual reporting”. Come to think of it, is their any far right media outlet that is even in the mostly factual category? I’d be interested in seeing how a far right media outlet was able to use facts while still maintaining their far right status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,026 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, bigbird said: One aspect I found humorous was Biden repeatedly making comments about Trump coming out of his bunker. I thought, Joe, that's not the best choice of words to be using. It would've been way too easy to flip that back onto him...for a competent debater. Wasn’t Donald Trump hunkered up in a bunker while the DC protests were happening? I think that’s what Joe is referring to there. I’m guessing you’re saying that Biden actually social distancing, like people in this country should be doing, if we ever want to be allowed in a sports venue again, as possibly being seen as hiding in a bunker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,510 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 59 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: I am very skeptical of articles like this that are clearly biased and refuse to name a single source. I think any wise person would be skeptical of articles like this. These articles waste my time, so I'll pick coloring in the corner for $100 Alex. But your initial response wasn't to complain about anonymous sources. It was simply to claim skepticism because Vanity Fair is biased. Only after I blew that argument to smithereens did you pivot to this new excuse. I don't really care what you do to be honest so long as the bitching about sources in lieu of actual arguments ceases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,903 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, TitanTiger said: Look, you can either post a rebuttal of the facts and claims in the article, or you can go sit in the corner and color (which to be honest is probably more your speed), but "THAIR BIASED, PAWWWWL" isn't an argument that's going to fly here. reckon he can keep the colors inside the lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: But your initial response wasn't to complain about anonymous sources. It was simply to claim skepticism because Vanity Fair is biased. Only after I blew that argument to smithereens did you pivot to this new excuse. I don't really care what you do to be honest so long as the bitching about sources in lieu of actual arguments ceases. I stand corrected. I should have mentioned my issues with the article when I questioned the source. I bet the prominent Republican is somebody like William Kristol, but who knows as it might even be John Kasich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: What’s your point? It’s also “mostly factual”. 100 percent fed up is far right and “low factual reporting”. Come to think of it, is their any far right media outlet that is even in the mostly factual category? I’d be interested in seeing how a far right media outlet was able to use facts while still maintaining their far right status. My point is the article is clearly biased. The commentary mixed in with the info makes this clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,903 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 people all have their favorite sources. and while i agree some may or may not be all that legit i was surprised unless i read it wrong huffington post and buzzfeed both did articles that said click here for the original article on newsweek and that kind of thing. i try to discern if a site is legit or not but i will post one of i think it has legit laughs taking shots at the right and that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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