NMSU Post mortem

[rga68 3]

The truth is that Auburn has not beaten a team with a winning record this year! However, this loss is a disgrace for the coaches and players! Auburn played better in every game against winning SEC teams, except LSU!  What cause this team to fail this badly? Did they really think that beating Arkansas was that great an accomplishment? Auburn fans deserve better results and effort from their football team! 

[TeamZero77 1,786]

8 hours ago, LeonardAU said:

He lasted 6 minutes. Cowardly. 

Hugh couldn't brag on himself in this presser so he cut it short.

[80Tiger 904]

We were fortunate to play vandy this year. Ever other east team beats us. After yesterday you don’t think this years team is any better than last year

[TigerfanKM 37]

The way I look at it, we lost to a much better team. It wasn't a fluke, lack of effort, etc. The USA today poll had them ranked 42nd and us 46th. Who knows where the 25pt spread came from, idiots maybe. Fact is NM is a way better team than Vandy, Miss St, or Ark. They are playing for their conf champ this week. We are another 1-2 classes away from being serious contenders. Question is, will we moan and groan, or will we show everyone, especially the recruits, out love for Auburn win or lose. We can have an impact, what will yours be?

Wat Eagle!?

[Bottomfeeder 244]

This was Hugh Freeze's UL Monroe.

[aucanucktiger 1,805]

Meh, in his first Bama season Nicky lost in Tuscaloosa to Sun Belt's La-Monroe (6-6, a FAR worse team than '23 NMS) and backed into Indep Bowl for a squeeker win over arguably the worse bowl team that year (Colorado). He signed a good, not great class after that season. Sounds familiar. Next thread.

[Carnell 592]

1 hour ago, TigerfanKM said:

The way I look at it, we lost to a much better team. It wasn't a fluke, lack of effort, etc. The USA today poll had them ranked 42nd and us 46th. Who knows where the 25pt spread came from, idiots maybe. Fact is NM is a way better team than Vandy, Miss St, or Ark. They are playing for their conf champ this week. We are another 1-2 classes away from being serious contenders. Question is, will we moan and groan, or will we show everyone, especially the recruits, out love for Auburn win or lose. We can have an impact, what will yours be?

Wat Eagle!?

Maybe the 25 point spread came from the fact that they lost to UMass and Tulane. 

[naildawg 63]

6 hours ago, rga68 said:

The truth is that Auburn has not beaten a team with a winning record this year! However, this loss is a disgrace for the coaches and players! Auburn played better in every game against winning SEC teams, except LSU!  What cause this team to fail this badly? Did they really think that beating Arkansas was that great an accomplishment? Auburn fans deserve better results and effort from their football team! 

They played arguably worse against New Mexico State than LSU who had All-American wide receivers. In an era when quarterbacks are big and fast like Jayden Daniels they never laid a hand on a five foot ten Mexican-America kid. Pathetic performance.

[alexava 6,973]

Arkansas really sucks. 
 

[Auburn Tiger 1,340]

I just cannot believe it. What a colossal failure in this game. I woke up this morning still annoyed about this game. 

[EagleEye67 1,945]

Hey, didn't Saban lose to LA Monroe? 

 

#copium 

[DAG 34,034]

1 minute ago, EagleEye67 said:

Hey, didn't Saban lose to LA Monroe? 

 

#copium 

Yes this had been said 20 times now. Although Saban is overrated to most here.

[EagleEye67 1,945]

8 hours ago, JDUBB4AU said:

AU deserves to go back to nothing. Bowl game ? This team does not deserve a fun bowl trip. They need to be in the damn weight room.

Many would consider Birmingham in any context to be severe punishment.

[JDUBB4AU 5,138]

2 minutes ago, EagleEye67 said:

Hey, didn't Saban lose to LA Monroe? 

 

#copium 

Good grief, yes. The key difference is saban had a championship under his belt. Hugh has nothing . Zero. Not the same

[WarDamnDoc 390]

We've gotta stop kidding ourselves - Hugh is no Saban.  This isn't LA Monroe.

Just no fight.  Pavia went WWE on our DB, and our guys didn't grind him into dirt.

How does JH carry the ball less than half as much as PT?  Terrible decisions, terrible play calls.  This offense is horrible.  Montgomery needs to go.

[EagleEye67 1,945]

6 minutes ago, JDUBB4AU said:

Good grief, yes. The key difference is saban had a championship under his belt. Hugh has nothing . Zero. Not the same

Sorry, clearly my sarcasm was hidden too well 😅 

There's a Godwin's Law corollary that says something like, "after an inexplicable SEC loss,  the probability of someone saying 'Saban lost to LA Monroe' quickly approaches one."

Edited November 19, 2023 by EagleEye67

[TitanTiger 20,542]

1 minute ago, JDUBB4AU said:

Good grief, yes. The key difference is saban had a championship under his belt. Hugh has nothing . Zero. Not the same

The La Monroe comparison isn't really it.  What's more applicable is Saban in his first year at LSU losing to UAB at home.  He had zero championships under his belt then.  Just a string of four .500 seasons at Michigan State then a 9-2 one he cashed in on to get to Baton Rouge.  

Or Norvell in his second year at FSU losing to Jacksonville State.

Neither of those coaches at those moments had anything.  We know what Saban has done since.  Norvell has his team at 12-0 and poised to make the playoff if his backup QB can perform well enough.

We'll see if we can channel the same lessons from this game going forward.

[TitanTiger 20,542]

2 minutes ago, WarDamnDoc said:

We've gotta stop kidding ourselves - Hugh is no Saban.  This isn't LA Monroe.

Just no fight.  Pavia went WWE on our DB, and our guys didn't grind him into dirt.

How does JH carry the ball less than half as much as PT?  Terrible decisions, terrible play calls.  This offense is horrible.  Montgomery needs to go.

That's misleading because several of PT's runs were actually scrambles on passing plays because people weren't getting open or he was under pressure from s***ty blocking.

This wasn't a play calling failure.  It didn't matter what was called yesterday.  I'm not saying the calls were brilliant or anything, but this was mostly about focus, effort, execution and discipline.  And it was a failure on those point to varying degrees from the very top to the very bottom.

[JDUBB4AU 5,138]

13 minutes ago, EagleEye67 said:

Sorry, clearly my sarcasm was hidden too well 😅 

There's a Godwin's Law corollary that says something like, "after an inexplicable SEC loss,  the probability of someone saying 'Saban lost to LA Monroe' quickly approaches one."

I read you now lol

[JDUBB4AU 5,138]

13 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

The La Monroe comparison isn't really it.  What's more applicable is Saban in his first year at LSU losing to UAB at home.  He had zero championships under his belt then.  Just a string of four .500 seasons at Michigan State then a 9-2 one he cashed in on to get to Baton Rouge.  

Or Norvell in his second year at FSU losing to Jacksonville State.

Neither of those coaches at those moments had anything.  We know what Saban has done since.  Norvell has his team at 12-0 and poised to make the playoff if his backup QB can perform well enough.

We'll see if we can channel the same lessons from this game going forward.

This is an applicable comparison. Nailed it . Thank you

[Allen_D 72]

13 hours ago, AUApostle said:

No clue if the guy can recruit in the SEC, but he’s a heck of a game day coach.  

He or his OC…

[WarDamnDoc 390]

8 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

That's misleading because several of PT's runs were actually scrambles on passing plays because people weren't getting open or he was under pressure from s***ty blocking.

This wasn't a play calling failure.  It didn't matter what was called yesterday.  I'm not saying the calls were brilliant or anything, but this was mostly about focus, effort, execution and discipline.  And it was a failure on those point to varying degrees from the very top to the very bottom.

I definitely agree that the effort was poor. I understand that some of the scrambles are survival plays.  If you have twice as many of those as RB handoffs... well, you've got some problems.  And yea man, playcalling is part of that.

[jluvah 673]

34 minutes ago, JDUBB4AU said:

Good grief, yes. The key difference is saban had a championship under his belt. Hugh has nothing . Zero. Not the same

Saban didn’t have any championships when UAB went into Baton Rouge and beat his team( which ended up 8-4) in 2000. So yeah, pretty much the same thing

[TitanTiger 20,542]

5 minutes ago, WarDamnDoc said:

I definitely agree that the effort was poor. I understand that some of the scrambles are survival plays.  If you have twice as many of those as RB handoffs... well, you've got some problems.  And yea man, playcalling is part of that.

True.  But playcalling ends up being dictated by game circumstances.  If you call runs that have been working well for the last three weeks but now are getting nothing (note:  of Hunter's 8 carries, only three went for positive yardage, and Alston's one carry went for negative yards), you end up passing more than you intended to.  When the defense can't get the other team's offense off the field and allows them to chew up large amount of clock and you're behind by two scores, it starts dictating more passing plays than you intended.  None of this happens in a vacuum.

[Eagle-1 3,821]

The sad reality of yesterday that no one is saying is it was a stark revelation of how far this team has to go.

We can sit here, and blame play calls, coaching, lack of effort, or motivation until we're blue in the face. The fact is that New Mexico State whipped us on the line of scrimmage on both sides of the football. 

They consistently pressured Thorne only rushing four. That means five, and sometimes six guys couldn't block four. Our defensive line was pushed around all night as well. 

I've seen articles praising Kill's plan to play keep away from Auburn burning clock. While it was a good strategy, it would have never worked but for their ability to push our defensive front seven around like marshmallows. The only way we change it is to recruit enough big nasties on both lines.