BamaGrad03 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 How in the name of all that is holy has this line not moved? USC - 6.5? Am I missing something here? I know everyone is PULLING for Croom. That doesnt mean he wont get stomped thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUesquire 1 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I won't even attempt to explain the line but I will say that my prediction for USC this year is I think they come back to earth and get hammered in numerous games. I don't think MSU does that because they are just a bad team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket City Tiger 4 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The only things I can think of are: 1. Spurrier has never won in Starkville (I'm pretty sure I heard this somewhere) 2. Since it's the first game of the year, the lines have caused the betting to even out around this mark. But you're right BG, seems quite a bit low... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dude 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I don't think that Ms. State will win, but I do think, however, that it'll be "closer than the experts think". I'll agree. The line is a little low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesfau 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 1. Spurrier has never won in Starkville (I'm pretty sure I heard this somewhere) This is true, but Spurrier last ventured to Starkville while Sherrill was cheating and winning enough to make an appearance in the SECCG. Croom doesn't have the talent to run with Spurrier's Cocks. You will see Mitchell to Rice, Mitchell to Newton and Mike Davis all night. I'll predict that USc wins by 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 How in the name of all that is holy has this line not moved? USC - 6.5? Am I missing something here? I know everyone is PULLING for Croom. That doesnt mean he wont get stomped thursday. Don't know man...Really don't see it. They are both gonna be bad. Ought to be a push cause the score at the end of regulation may be 3 - 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoic-one 1,549 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 How in the name of all that is holy has this line not moved? USC - 6.5? Am I missing something here? I know everyone is PULLING for Croom. That doesnt mean he wont get stomped thursday. Someone is chunking down some money somewhere, and that is keeping the line static... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Blake Mitchell is a good QB with another year in SOS's system. Rice is unstopable. MSU is breaking in a new QB as Connor has been switched to WR. USC beat Florida and won @UT last year. MSU is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesfau 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Blake Mitchell is a good QB with another year in SOS's system. Rice is unstopable. MSU is breaking in a new QB as Connor has been switched to WR. USC beat Florida and won @UT last year. MSU is awful. Preach it. Lay the points and count your dough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Someone is chunking down some money somewhere, and that is keeping the line static... Or nobody is touching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,438 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 It is kizmet. CSS cant win in Starkghanistan. Just like CTT cant lose in Tuscaloosa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vatz22au 142 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 USC also has about 3 starters returning on defense. Both teams have a chance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTaxMan 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Yeah. USC just isn't any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwegl 11 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I don’t see any reason why it would be so low unless the powers-that-be expect USC to keep their offensive game plan very vanilla in prep for the UGA game. Basically, USC go out and win playing base O and D so not to show their cards, keeping the score tighter than it would be if this game was played later in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The oddsmakers forgot that USC drops an hour (- 60 minutes) crossing time zones. Factor in that as: - 6.5 - 6.0 = - 12.5 (Bammer math!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subterranean_jack 112 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The score won't be 3-3. Both teams would have to understand the concept of defense for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The score won't be 3-3. Both teams would have to understand the concept of defense for that to happen. ok....How about 42 -42 ? That better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgr4lfe 220 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 1. Spurrier has never won in Starkville (I'm pretty sure I heard this somewhere) This is true, but Spurrier last ventured to Starkville while Sherrill was cheating and winning enough to make an appearance in the SECCG. Croom doesn't have the talent to run with Spurrier's Cocks. You will see Mitchell to Rice, Mitchell to Newton and Mike Davis all night. I'll predict that USc wins by 14. At least 14, is still going to be bad, on the other will be much improved over last year, I think, Spurrier is too good a coach. If the D can be 1.5 times better than last years, they will knock of at least one of UT, UF, or UGA. We will have to bring it to Columbia on Sept 28 for sure. After what we did to them last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aukooze91 11 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 The only things I can think of are: 1. Spurrier has never won in Starkville (I'm pretty sure I heard this somewhere) 2. Since it's the first game of the year, the lines have caused the betting to even out around this mark. But you're right BG, seems quite a bit low... I agree with Rocket City Tiger. I am pretty sure he has never won in Starkville (I think its 3 losses or something like that). From my experience watching UF in the past, Spurriers quaterbacks tend to be "off" a little in the first game of a season and they don't score as many points as they should (against SEC, higher grade teams, etc). Against lower talented teams, they would always score in the 70's or something like that. My take on the game: If MSU holds them to <70 yards rushing, they might have a chance (but I doubt it, they can't score enough). You can throw for 300+ yards but if you don't run the ball effectively for adequate yardage, you could run into problems, or possibly lose. The betting is probably staying even at the 6.5 pt spread for both sides. But the bookies tend to know something more than we do War Eagle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinTiger 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Ya I couldn't help but put a very small one down on SC for this game. Will keep first game of the year that I watch exciting too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUHansel 0 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I've seen some picks (on CFN) where they said MSU wins this game. I don't see this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufan59 75 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 According to sportsbook.com, 94% are betting on USC, and 6% are betting on MSU. I think those are just the numbers coming in on their site. People are overrating USC's offense, and underrating MSU's defense. It will be a defensive game. The defenses are the strength of each team, while the offenses on both sides aren't that good. Early in the season, especially the first game, defenses are further ahead than offenses. Ontop of that, the new clock change will lower the amount of snaps, which USC had the least of in all of football last year. If it moves to 7.5 my money would be on MSU no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFTiger 282 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 How in the name of all that is holy has this line not moved? USC - 6.5? Am I missing something here? I know everyone is PULLING for Croom. That doesn't mean he wont get stomped thursday. The line is set to stir the bet. That it has not moved tells me that half the Vegas money is bet on USC and half is bet on MSU. The house likes an evenly split pot and will adjust the line to encourage betting one way or the other. That is really all the line means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgr4lfe 220 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 According to sportsbook.com, 94% are betting on USC, and 6% are betting on MSU. I think those are just the numbers coming in on their site. People are overrating USC's offense, and underrating MSU's defense. It will be a defensive game. The defenses are the strength of each team, while the offenses on both sides aren't that good. Early in the season, especially the first game, defenses are further ahead than offenses. Ontop of that, the new clock change will lower the amount of snaps, which USC had the least of in all of football last year. If it moves to 7.5 my money would be on MSU no doubt. Last year USC had these stats on D (first number is national rank, then yds or pts per game) Rushing Defense 85 174.25 Pass Efficiency Defense 17 109.87 Total Defense 47 360.75 Scoring Defense 40 23.25 MSU was as follows: Rushing Defense 46 140.45 Pass Efficiency Defense 63 124.40 Total Defense 29 335.45 Scoring Defense 44 23.55 Neither were that good....USC had a decent pass D, but they were horrible against the run, and both gave up lots of points. I agree that defenses maybe be farther along at the beginning, but IMO the difference in this game will be the USC Offense, which will be very much improved!!! USC only needs to improve their rushing O and get some balance to be dangerous on offense. They averaged 220 ypg last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayonaise 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 It started at 7.5 & went down to 6.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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