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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

I APPROVE ^^THIS^^ QUOTE :hellyeah:
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Randy it IS known not Was

Not in the minds of the current generation. Look at Jovon Robinson now wanting to go to Turdville due to recent success of their RB's.

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

I agree, however, recently it hasn't been us conceeding the RB. It has been more like they just up and took them. How we felt about it wasn't really their concern. This AU staff is still an unknown commodity among the elite HS recruits. Gus & Co. have a chance to re-define Auburn Football and how we do on offense this year will have a tremendous impact on our recruiting for the near future. If we stall this year and are not impressive it will take longer than most of us care to even consider for Auburn to get back on top. Even if we kill it in year two of The Gus Bus, other schools will hold it up as a fluke and attempt to define us as unproven and cause recruits to wonder if year one will be the norm or year two. That could mean we struggle with recruiting another 3-4 years vs. showing out this year and getting the guys we want instead of what is left.

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Randy it IS known not Was

Not in the minds of the current generation. Look at Jovon Robinson now wanting to go to Turdville due to recent success of their RB's.

How big of a slap in the face would it be if JR does indeed become a turd and they use him to beat us? If he is indeed elligible how can he end up at UAt when he signed with us? If that happens it just further demonstrates the stranglehold Sabear has on Emmert's neck. BTW, I get the fact that he was released by Chiz & Co., I just wonder why we didn't put up a little more of a fight to get him qualified? Were they afraid of what might have been stirred up and decided not to fight it? We never got a legit conclusion to that debacle.

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Randy it IS known not Was

Not in the minds of the current generation. Look at Jovon Robinson now wanting to go to Turdville due to recent success of their RB's.

How big of a slap in the face would it be if JR does indeed become a turd and they use him to beat us? If he is indeed elligible how can he end up at UAt when he signed with us? If that happens it just further demonstrates the stranglehold Sabear has on Emmert's neck. BTW, I get the fact that he was released by Chiz & Co., I just wonder why we didn't put up a little more of a fight to get him qualified? Were they afraid of what might have been stirred up and decided not to fight it? We never got a legit conclusion to that debacle.

We didn't want the media scrutiny.

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

What sets AU apart from the turds recent running back success is that the AU rb's excelled at the collegiate AND the professional level!

Ingram = flop

Richardson = jury is still out... didn't put up 1st rounder #'s (imo)

Lacy = maybe he can make some noise, we'll see

On the other hand, look at guys like Andrews, Brooks, Cribbs, James, Jackson, Fullwood, Agee, Joseph, Richardson, Davis, Beasley, Johnson, Evans, Brown, Williams, and Tate - they were all great in college, and had successful pro careers!

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

Mainly in the southeast but nationally it has historically been USC.
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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

Mainly in the southeast but nationally it has historically been USC.

I would've thought Miami too...

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

What sets AU apart from the turds recent running back success is that the AU rb's excelled at the collegiate AND the professional level!

Ingram = flop

Richardson = jury is still out... didn't put up 1st rounder #'s (imo)

Lacy = maybe he can make some noise, we'll see

On the other hand, look at guys like Andrews, Brooks, Cribbs, James, Jackson, Fullwood, Agee, Joseph, Richardson, Davis, Beasley, Johnson, Evans, Brown, Williams, and Tate - they were all great in college, and had successful pro careers!

Fact is that recent backs in the NFL have not faired well. Irons, Cadillac, Brown, and Tate have all had only marginal success. The most successful running back is Brandon Jacobs and he barely claims AU as home.

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Randy it IS known not Was

Not in the minds of the current generation. Look at Jovon Robinson now wanting to go to Turdville due to recent success of their RB's.

How big of a slap in the face would it be if JR does indeed become a turd and they use him to beat us? If he is indeed elligible how can he end up at UAt when he signed with us? If that happens it just further demonstrates the stranglehold Sabear has on Emmert's neck. BTW, I get the fact that he was released by Chiz & Co., I just wonder why we didn't put up a little more of a fight to get him qualified? Were they afraid of what might have been stirred up and decided not to fight it? We never got a legit conclusion to that debacle.

If a signee doesn't enroll at the school he signed with by October of that year, his Letter of Intent becomes null and void and he can go to school on scholarship anywhere he wants.

PS: We cannot enroll Jovon Robinson on football scholarship at Auburn. He'll have to go elsewhere if he wants to play college football.

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

What sets AU apart from the turds recent running back success is that the AU rb's excelled at the collegiate AND the professional level!

Ingram = flop

Richardson = jury is still out... didn't put up 1st rounder #'s (imo)

Lacy = maybe he can make some noise, we'll see

On the other hand, look at guys like Andrews, Brooks, Cribbs, James, Jackson, Fullwood, Agee, Joseph, Richardson, Davis, Beasley, Johnson, Evans, Brown, Williams, and Tate - they were all great in college, and had successful pro careers!

Fact is that recent backs in the NFL have not faired well. Irons, Cadillac, Brown, and Tate have all had only marginal success. The most successful running back is Brandon Jacobs and he barely claims AU as home.

Irons was injured on his 1st NFL carry, that's why I didn't include him on my list...

As far as Brown and Williams, Brown is still hanging on as a situational back... and Williams was Rookie of the Year! Since the average career span of a RB is only 6 years, I'd classify both Ronnie and Caddy as successful!

Tate is getting only a quarter of the snaps in Houston, and still has a 1,000 yd season, and averages 5 ypc... Not too shabby.

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Randy it IS known not Was

Not in the minds of the current generation. Look at Jovon Robinson now wanting to go to Turdville due to recent success of their RB's.

How big of a slap in the face would it be if JR does indeed become a turd and they use him to beat us? If he is indeed elligible how can he end up at UAt when he signed with us? If that happens it just further demonstrates the stranglehold Sabear has on Emmert's neck. BTW, I get the fact that he was released by Chiz & Co., I just wonder why we didn't put up a little more of a fight to get him qualified? Were they afraid of what might have been stirred up and decided not to fight it? We never got a legit conclusion to that debacle.

He is not eligible. That is why he is at Georgia Military College now. He will not be eligible til December 2014 so the NLI he signed with Auburn will not matter by then. We did have a conclusion. An administrator changed a grade. That made him ineligible until he completes further coursework which he is doing now. Once the NCAA found him ineligible after the 3 week investigation there was nothing the old staff could do as far as fighting for his eligibility.
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Our rushing yards this fall should get RB recruits attention for 2014 and beyond.

I was just going to post something similar to that. If we have a good season in '13 with the Gus offense and put up some good offensive numbers, top running backs will be lining up to come to AU. The same goes for QBs, WRs and TE's.

As far as some other comments about Jovon Robinson, he wont be on any D1 football field until the '15 season anyway. Any program that is already loaded with RBs probably wont get him enough playing time to make a name for himself in 2 years. He needs to find an opportunity where he will get some serious playing time, like CAP has found with Auburn this year.

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

What sets AU apart from the turds recent running back success is that the AU rb's excelled at the collegiate AND the professional level!

Ingram = flop

Richardson = jury is still out... didn't put up 1st rounder #'s (imo)

Lacy = maybe he can make some noise, we'll see

On the other hand, look at guys like Andrews, Brooks, Cribbs, James, Jackson, Fullwood, Agee, Joseph, Richardson, Davis, Beasley, Johnson, Evans, Brown, Williams, and Tate - they were all great in college, and had successful pro careers!

Fact is that recent backs in the NFL have not faired well. Irons, Cadillac, Brown, and Tate have all had only marginal success. The most successful running back is Brandon Jacobs and he barely claims AU as home.

Tate is early. Both Caddy and Ronnie Brown went to the pro bowl. As did Heath Evans. How recent is that for you?

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

What sets AU apart from the turds recent running back success is that the AU rb's excelled at the collegiate AND the professional level!

Ingram = flop

Richardson = jury is still out... didn't put up 1st rounder #'s (imo)

Lacy = maybe he can make some noise, we'll see

On the other hand, look at guys like Andrews, Brooks, Cribbs, James, Jackson, Fullwood, Agee, Joseph, Richardson, Davis, Beasley, Johnson, Evans, Brown, Williams, and Tate - they were all great in college, and had successful pro careers!

Fact is that recent backs in the NFL have not faired well. Irons, Cadillac, Brown, and Tate have all had only marginal success. The most successful running back is Brandon Jacobs and he barely claims AU as home.

Tate is early. Both Caddy and Ronnie Brown went to the pro bowl. As did Heath Evans. How recent is that for you?

Caddy had 1 pro bowl appearance in his rookie year and did little after that. That is certifiably a bust for a #5 overall draft pick no matter how much it's sugar coated. Ronnie had a descent career but nothing anyone would deem truly succesful in the NFL (mainly due to injury). I agree with Heath. He got the most out of his potential. Ben Tate had 1 solid year in 2011 behind Foster but dropped vastly in production last season. Nowhere close to succesful as of yet.
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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

What sets AU apart from the turds recent running back success is that the AU rb's excelled at the collegiate AND the professional level!

Ingram = flop

Richardson = jury is still out... didn't put up 1st rounder #'s (imo)

Lacy = maybe he can make some noise, we'll see

On the other hand, look at guys like Andrews, Brooks, Cribbs, James, Jackson, Fullwood, Agee, Joseph, Richardson, Davis, Beasley, Johnson, Evans, Brown, Williams, and Tate - they were all great in college, and had successful pro careers!

Fact is that recent backs in the NFL have not faired well. Irons, Cadillac, Brown, and Tate have all had only marginal success. The most successful running back is Brandon Jacobs and he barely claims AU as home.

Tate is early. Both Caddy and Ronnie Brown went to the pro bowl. As did Heath Evans. How recent is that for you?

Caddy had 1 pro bowl appearance in his rookie year and did little after that. That is certifiably a bust for a #5 overall draft pick no matter how much it's sugar coated. Ronnie had a descent career but nothing anyone would deem truly succesful in the NFL (mainly due to injury). I agree with Heath. He got the most out of his potential. Ben Tate had 1 solid year in 2011 behind Foster but dropped vastly in production last season. Nowhere close to succesful as of yet.

Caddy was doing awesome until he blew out his knee..not once...but twice....injuries prevented his career from reaching its full potential

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If we're in the business of conceding the best RB in Alabama to either UAT or "anywhere but Auburn" we've still got a serious, serious problem. Hopefully, that's not the case. We'll see in February.

AMEN!!! Wasn't it AUBURN that used to be known as "Running Back U?"

AU was and is still known as "RBU"...

What sets AU apart from the turds recent running back success is that the AU rb's excelled at the collegiate AND the professional level!

Ingram = flop

Richardson = jury is still out... didn't put up 1st rounder #'s (imo)

Lacy = maybe he can make some noise, we'll see

On the other hand, look at guys like Andrews, Brooks, Cribbs, James, Jackson, Fullwood, Agee, Joseph, Richardson, Davis, Beasley, Johnson, Evans, Brown, Williams, and Tate - they were all great in college, and had successful pro careers!

Fact is that recent backs in the NFL have not faired well. Irons, Cadillac, Brown, and Tate have all had only marginal success. The most successful running back is Brandon Jacobs and he barely claims AU as home.

Tate is early. Both Caddy and Ronnie Brown went to the pro bowl. As did Heath Evans. How recent is that for you?

Caddy had 1 pro bowl appearance in his rookie year and did little after that. That is certifiably a bust for a #5 overall draft pick no matter how much it's sugar coated. Ronnie had a descent career but nothing anyone would deem truly succesful in the NFL (mainly due to injury). I agree with Heath. He got the most out of his potential. Ben Tate had 1 solid year in 2011 behind Foster but dropped vastly in production last season. Nowhere close to succesful as of yet.

Caddy was doing awesome until he blew out his knee..not once...but twice....injuries prevented his career from reaching its full potential

Possibly but he had a poor second year and that was before those injuries. Anyway, my point is Auburn has not been consistently RBU since the mid to late 80s. We have had spurts of it. I fully expeact Gus to bring the consistency back with his history of run production and what I call his machine gun style rush offense.
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I try not to argue because it goes no where but this, i'm willing to. There is no other team in the south with the caliber of RB auburn has had in a long time. Not to mention the amount of RB's that have gone to the NFL. What they did after that was on them not AU. No one knows what kenny would have done in the NFL since he got hurt. Caddy was not on pace with his freshman season but would hardly be able to be considered a bust since there are plenty of backs that dont make pro bowl and he did. Brown being a very capable back. Whats a I'm sure the likes of UGA, Tenn, Alabama, Vandy etc would all love to have the success of RB's we have had.

The last bama RB to be anything special was Shaun Alexander. Darby = Buster, Ingram + most overhyped RB to win the Heisman and still cant do much in his seasons in the nfl. And the only saving grace may be Trent Richardson if he can keep healthy... Although with him being the only offensive weapon on a terrible browns team, he's probably going to get hurt more and more till he gets traded or retires.

Point being is other teams have good players. Bama gets these players because they win championships. They are a good team. However look at the award winners they have and the 1 B.S Heisman. If you want awards, get to the NFL, compete hard and win championships, go to Auburn.

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There is no other team in the south with the caliber of RB auburn has had in a long time.

To this with Guys like Edgerin James, Willis Magahee, Frank Gore, and countless others Miami says hello. Now as Golf said back to Roc Thomas.
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The nonsense about Cadillac being a bust is absurd. He didn't have a "good" rookie season. He was the offensive Rookie of the Year. He had a down sophomore season; then he suffered an injury that ZERO NFL RBs had ever returned from. He didn't just tear his ACL. He ruptured his patellar. At the time, doctors thought his career was over.

Instead, he rehabbed and made it back to the Bucs in just over a year. Then, he ruptured the patellar tendon in his other knee. Keep in mind, he was the only guy to ever return from that injury, and he did it twice. He made it back by the early 2008, and after two full years of rehab from two unprecedented knee injuries, he posted 1000+ yards of total offense and finished second for Comeback POY (behind Brady post-knee injury).

Despite the knee injuries, he played 7 years in the NFL, won ROY, and made a Pro Bowl. You can call him a bust, but that's only true if you divorce real life circumstances from the pure statistics. At this point, Mark Ingram would kill for Cadillac's career.

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Apologies to Roc Thomas for one more second, are we talking college careers or pro? Because the Miami guys don't really stack up to Auburn's RBs if we're only looking at college. Rudi, Cadillac, Brown, Irons, Tate. That's almost 10 unbroken years of All-SEC or or All-American RBs. Miami had 3 (and because of injuries Gore is a MASSIVE reeeeeeach).

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Apologies to Roc Thomas for one more second, are we talking college careers or pro? Because the Miami guys don't really stack up to Auburn's RBs if we're only looking at college. Rudi, Cadillac, Brown, Irons, Tate. That's almost 10 unbroken years of All-SEC or or All-American RBs. Miami had 3 (and because of injuries Gore is a MASSIVE reeeeeeach).

It's even better than that. Auburn has put RBs in the NFL in every decade since the 1940's. In addition, Roc Thomas appears to be a good RB.
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I'm probably done posting in this section and probably wont post much anymore period. Other than the Practice updates and wired for sound, if anyone posts anything positive about Auburn its met with immediate slap down. I'm not talking about over the top sunshine pumping but dang. I didnt know 1 bad year means we have to pack in the excitement. As for Roc. I hope he comes to Auburn and has some marginal success and helps win a few games. Hope that was reserved enough for y'all.

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