cole256 17,050 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, wcware said: Guys that aren’t here? No I'm talking about guys that replied or liked the post. There are several current players on that list. Either way it would be silly to discount 20 people on the word of one person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroforwinger 443 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said: Maybe an argument could be made that he doesn't yet fully understand the playing field he is on here, but to say he is unwilling to learn is a bit disingenuous. He has been here 14 months. I would argue it is FAR too early to make a determination about his willingness to learn. Fair enough. We could say he has shown no willingness to learn. He could change but I’d be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,050 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Bro Johnny Mac said: Team seems split.. I agree,Whatever a players perception is on how they are being treated should be taken as true. If Harsin treats the players all the same way, that’s all we can ask. If he doesn’t, all the players will sniff it out sooner rather than later and he won’t last. You agree right. My point was that it doesn't have to be a right and wrong thing as suggested. I was trying to show how crazy to assume something like that buy asking logical questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnEagle79 2,165 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, DAG said: Absolutely correct. I like to believe the truth is in the middle. Sandra Wooten went on a show and spoke highly of CBH after her interaction with him, and smoke is saying he never spoke to his parents. Probably truth in both but this is no reason to fire someone. There is a lot to unpack. This is also one reason a lot of lawsuits end up getting settled vs going to court. There's dirt on each side and cross examination doesn't always go well. Wouldn't be shocked to see a settlement happen here unless there is concrete evidence to fire with cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUEAGLE 67 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, WarDamn2010 said: His use of the word "had" is very concerning... Think he’s referring to gus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,980 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 “He didn’t take no bulls***. When the job didn’t get done. It was time to replace them. Put somebody in the right spot. Show up on time. That’s the first thing he taught us. Being on time can change a lot of stuff. A lot of guys didn’t like that.” Moultry as asked if he had eligibility remaining, would he be returning to Auburn or transferring? “I’d be coming back. I love Auburn,” he said. “If it wasn’t for Harsin, I’d be gone. The other coaches didn’t let me change. I knew I messed up, but I changed. Harsin allowed me to change. I’m happy he came. I made me believe more in myself. I’d definitely be staying at Auburn.” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin 3,305 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,472 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 From what I've been able to tally so far on the various social media channels... Spoken out in favor of Harsin: Chandler Wooten, Derrik Hall, TD Moultry, John Samuel Shenker Spoken out against Harsin: Zakoby McLain, Kobe Hudson, Smoke Monday, Lee Hunter There are dudes on both sides who stayed through the end of their eligibility. I don't know that this or that guy speaking out on one side or the other tips the scales. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcware 1,365 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, cole256 said: No I'm talking about guys that replied or liked the post. There are several current players on that list. Either way it would be silly to discount 20 people on the word of one person Obviously they feel some type of way for some reason. I’m a very loyal person and I ride with my dudes. That’s what shapes my opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,980 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 The truth is in the middle. Too much jumping out the window from both sides and I am also pointing at myself. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,980 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, TitanTiger said: From what I've been able to tally so far on the various social media channels... Spoken out in favor of Harsin: Chandler Wooten, Derrik Hall, TD Moultry Spoken out against Harsin: Zakoby McLain, Kobe Hudson, Smoke Monday, Lee Hunter There are dudes on both sides who stayed through the end of their eligibility. I don't know that this or that guy speaking out on one side or the other tips the scales. Shenker is pro Harsin as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick.AU 13,279 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, DAG said: “He didn’t take no bulls***. When the job didn’t get done. It was time to replace them. Put somebody in the right spot. Show up on time. That’s the first thing he taught us. Being on time can change a lot of stuff. A lot of guys didn’t like that.” Moultry as asked if he had eligibility remaining, would he be returning to Auburn or transferring? “I’d be coming back. I love Auburn,” he said. “If it wasn’t for Harsin, I’d be gone. The other coaches didn’t let me change. I knew I messed up, but I changed. Harsin allowed me to change. I’m happy he came. I made me believe more in myself. I’d definitely be staying at Auburn.” This right here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, zeroforwinger said: Fair enough. We could say he has shown no willingness to learn. He could change but I’d be surprised. Well again that is the part I am arguing. I mean he has had 1 season under his belt. That's it. What gives you the feeling he has shown no willingness to learn? BTW I am not defending the season collapse, the mass exodus of players, the issue with staff, etc. Just saying...it's been one full season how can you say he has an unwillingness to learn? We have nothing to compare to ...If in year 2 he did the same thing as year one...then ok. I could see it. I just think it is waaay too premature to make that argument right now. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,050 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, wcware said: Obviously they feel some type of way for some reason. I’m a very loyal person and I ride with my dudes. That’s what shapes my opinions. Well McClain spoke against. Nobody trumps him right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Paladin said: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,050 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Paladin said: You not going to post anybody on the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I have seen all the players posts and comments except McClain. What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroforwinger 443 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Tigerpro2a said: Well again that is the part I am arguing. I mean he has had 1 season under his belt. That's it. What gives you the feeling he has shown no willingness to learn? BTW I am not defending the season collapse, the mass exodus of players, the issue with staff, etc. Just saying...it's been one full season how can you say he has an unwillingness to learn? We have nothing to compare to ...If in year 2 he did the same thing as year one...then ok. I could see it. I just think it is waaay too premature to make that argument right now. IMO Just his personality. He seems very set in his ways. His interactions with reporters. He’s not the kissing babies and shaking hands type of personality that you would expect as the face of program with Auburn’s clout. My experience is that people don’t become more amenable the longer they are on the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,226 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Well... we've changed coaches, changed AD's, changed presidents but the dysfunction remains. WTF guys. get it together. 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bro Johnny Mac 1,393 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, cole256 said: You agree right. My point was that it doesn't have to be a right and wrong thing as suggested. I was trying to show how crazy to assume something like that buy asking logical questions Yep 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarDamn2010 183 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, AuburnEagle79 said: I just took it as referring to Gus as the best friend, but maybe he already knows what's coming. I hope you're correct there. I took it as "we had a coach in Harsin and now he's gone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,025 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, DAG said: Shenker is pro Harsin as well This just seems so out there on the surface. I guess the only thing to do is sit back and see what comes out that is actually factual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnEagle79 2,165 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, DAG said: Shenker is pro Harsin as well Every tight end in our roster should be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,050 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 It's not a right and wrong thing. It's need to improve all over. That's what it is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle1983 2,185 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, imaolgatiger said: So Smoke proves that he’s a clown! How many games was he thrown out of because he can’t follow rules, specifically targeting? This backs up the point that we had no discipline and have/had a bunch of individuals and not team players. Yeah....he's a different story. He's going to be in for a wide awakening in the league if he doesn't get his act together. Smoke wants to do what smoke wants to do. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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