General coaching hire discussion (your random tossed out name is probably merged here)

[PoetTiger 1,899]

About the only thing that your idol Petrino has done consistently is display extremely poor judgment, but hey if that's the kind head coach that yuk really want then by all means hire away!!! Congrats on your being schooled.

Are off your meds?

Want to know what Petrino does (as a HC)? He wins. End of story.

Christ, you're dense.

. Tommy Tubervile 2.0

Tuberville's record prior to Auburn: 25-20

Petrino's record prior to Auburn (I hope): 75-26

Not even close.

You are aware that Tubbs only head coaching gig prior to AU was OLE SIS?

Ok, Petrino's first HC gig was Louisville. His record there: 41-9

Look BP is a good coach, but those wins came in the Big East, while Tubbs was in the SEC west....a league where he won an SEC title, whereas BP did not.....

[Crouching Tiger 76]

While I'm at it, allow me to educate you:

3) Watch the name-calling. Grow up and act like adults. Now, we're not going to hammer every time a name gets tossed out, but if threads get derailed by the personal bickering or if you get into a groove of insulting rather than discussing things, we'll step in and tell you knock it off.

In other words, a name tossed out there or there doesn't break the rules.

Now, let's see if we can find a subject you know something about since coaches and reading apparently don't fit the bill. Knitting perhaps?

Classless. Truly classless. I thought you were supposed to be a mod, but I obviously was mistaken.

Thanks for reminding me why I miss AE so much.

I don't know anything about knitting either.....

Dansby, if they need to know anything about golf or knitting, they need to ask somebody other than you and me.

[DANSBY 0]

While I'm at it, allow me to educate you:

3) Watch the name-calling. Grow up and act like adults. Now, we're not going to hammer every time a name gets tossed out, but if threads get derailed by the personal bickering or if you get into a groove of insulting rather than discussing things, we'll step in and tell you knock it off.

In other words, a name tossed out there or there doesn't break the rules.

Now, let's see if we can find a subject you know something about since coaches and reading apparently don't fit the bill. Knitting perhaps?

Classless. Truly classless. I thought you were supposed to be a mod, but I obviously was mistaken.

Thanks for reminding me why I miss AE so much.

I don't know anything about knitting either.....

Pickles?

I love pickles (especially Wickles), but that's about all I could add to the conversation.

[leglessdan 1,934]

While I'm at it, allow me to educate you:

3) Watch the name-calling. Grow up and act like adults. Now, we're not going to hammer every time a name gets tossed out, but if threads get derailed by the personal bickering or if you get into a groove of insulting rather than discussing things, we'll step in and tell you knock it off.

In other words, a name tossed out there or there doesn't break the rules.

Now, let's see if we can find a subject you know something about since coaches and reading apparently don't fit the bill. Knitting perhaps?

Classless. Truly classless. I thought you were supposed to be a mod, but I obviously was mistaken.

Thanks for reminding me why I miss AE so much.

I don't know anything about knitting either.....

Pickles?

I love pickles (especially Wickles), but that's about all I could add to the conversation.

Wickles are the shiz nit

[WarEagle10 77]

I am honestly at the point that I don't care who we bring in. A change has to be made. That is all I know for 100% certainty.

[PoetTiger 1,899]

What makes you guys believe Rocker can scheme amd call a defense? What experience does he have in that regard?

I'm not specifically endorsing Rocker, nor do I think he would return, but I do believe that a nasty D can co-exist with a spread type of O.

Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean that it won't ever happen.

They said for years that no one ever break a 4 minute mile and now it's done routinely.

The obvious problem is that the same points your making as to why Petrino shouldn't be hired is completly true of most of the other coaches that you suggest. The biggest difference betweem Petrino and your choices is that Petrino is a proven winner in the SEC even with inferior talent. Everyone else you mentioned either has no real experience or even has losing records at their schools.

I'm convinced your an idiot now. You contradict every post you try to make arguments on.

Bite Me!!!

The obvious problem is that the same points you're making as to why Petrino shouldn't be hired is completely true of your own coaching suggestions as well. The biggest difference between Petrino and your choices is that Petrino is a proven winner in the SEC even with inferior talent. Everyone else you mentioned either has no real HC experience and/or is near .500 or below at their current jobs.

Here we go with the inferior talent, you guys act like he had a JV roster, Ryan Mallet, Tyler Wilson, Knile Davis and countless receivers those guys were just as good as any RB/Qb/Wr in the league and could have played at an SEC school - Petrino had SEC level talent across the board on offense, defensively they were not as stout but after u get pass UA, UF, UGA, and LSU there is a drop off as it relates to all league schools..personally I think he could have addressed it if he wanted (mainly because he seems very detailed) but he is an offensive guy 100% and does not give as much attention to detail to the defensive side of the ball, both in recruiting and scheme. Now go ahead and call me stupid or whatever for having a different view...

[DANSBY 0]

Man, Gus is going to walk the dogs on us next fall.

[ballrun44 0]

Would Tracy Rocker make a good DC???

Other comments:

- Paul Rhodes would get the heckler out again at the airport

- Gus would get the Bama folks cringing again

- Golden might pull some talent from S. Florida - unknown, though...

- How's Pete Carroll liking his stint in Seattle?

- Aren't there Saints coaches needing jobs - hahaha!

[FearTheTigers 0]

While I'm at it, allow me to educate you:

3) Watch the name-calling. Grow up and act like adults. Now, we're not going to hammer every time a name gets tossed out, but if threads get derailed by the personal bickering or if you get into a groove of insulting rather than discussing things, we'll step in and tell you knock it off.

In other words, a name tossed out there or there doesn't break the rules.

Now, let's see if we can find a subject you know something about since coaches and reading apparently don't fit the bill. Knitting perhaps?

Classless. Truly classless. I thought you were supposed to be a mod, but I obviously was mistaken.

Thanks for reminding me why I miss AE so much.

You get the response you earn.

Back at ya. Cyberpunk. You and Petr

While I'm at it, allow me to educate you:

3) Watch the name-calling. Grow up and act like adults. Now, we're not going to hammer every time a name gets tossed out, but if threads get derailed by the personal bickering or if you get into a groove of insulting rather than discussing things, we'll step in and tell you knock it off.

In other words, a name tossed out there or there doesn't break the rules.

Now, let's see if we can find a subject you know something about since coaches and reading apparently don't fit the bill. Knitting perhaps?

Classless. Truly classless. I thought you were supposed to be a mod, but I obviously was mistaken.

Thanks for reminding me why I miss AE so much.

You get the response you earn.

Back at ya. Cyber Punk!!!

You crossed the threshold Mr. Moderator and we all know it...

[AUBourne 425]

Who I don't like:

Kirby Smart - Holds DC title under Saban in name only. Really just coaches Safeties. Is 36 years old. Has never been a real coordinator because Saban is the true DC. So never a HC, never a coordinator.

James Franklin - He is recruiting well for Vandy. But his offensive numbers are below what you expect. Play calling has been very suspect. 6 games into the year Vandy was dead last in NCAA in 3rd down conversion %.

Art Briles - Great offense when they had RG3. Nothing special in the wins and losses column without him. 3 losing seasons out of 5 at Baylor including this season.

Willie Taggart - Young (36?) coach with a 14-17 record. Need to see a lot more out of him before I would consider him. Need to see him coach his own recruits.

Jimbo Fisher - Some like him because he has AU connections. I see a coach whose best completed season was 10-4. This season his team is failing to meet expectations again with a bad loss to NC State.

Who I like:

Garry Patterson - TCU won 10 games or more 8 times out of 11 seasons. This guy is a winner.

Bobby Petrino - One of the best offensive minds in football. Resurrected Louisville and dominated the Big East. Two 10 win seasons out of 4 years at Arkansas. Arkansas. Success on the field would lead to strong recruiting.

Butch Jones - In a direct showdown with Louisville, the Cinci offense got the best of the Charlie Strong defense. They lost in OT but they scored 30 in regulation.

Charlie Strong - I'm luke warm on him to be honest. I think AU would have consistent top 20 - 25 ranked defenses under Strong. But he would be very dependent on having a top offensive coordinator to take up the slack. But I think he would bring in a lot of talent. A step above Tubs but not where I want AU to be.

Who I want to know more about:

John Chavis - One of the best defensive minds in football. Is he HC material?

Larry Fedora - Impressive at Southern Miss. UNC is off to a wacky season but Fedora inherited a lot of issues. Is he the mastermind of that offense or is it OC Blake Anderson?

[johnjacob 44]

About the only thing that your idol Petrino has done consistently is display extremely poor judgment, but hey if that's the kind head coach that yuk really want then by all means hire away!!! Congrats on your being schooled.

Are off your meds?

Want to know what Petrino does (as a HC)? He wins. End of story.

Christ, you're dense.

Ok, he wins. How did it end at Louisville? The Falcons? Arkansas?

If you imbeciles think the media was viscous durIng the Chizik era you haven't seen anything if Petrino is hired and it will never stop.

You can also throw the Auburn Creed out the window if he's hired because it will no longer be meaningful.

Yes, I would rather roll the dice on a Malzahn or Strong both of which have integrity, than to roll the dice that Petrino has changed his evil ways. It's only been 6 months since he was booted at Arky.

It really can't get any more vicious than 2010, but it could get more "viscous".

[AUBourne 425]

In regards to Jimbo Fisher and money. We tried to hire Stoops away from FSU and was unable to do it. I don't think Jimbo is a real option.

[Austintxtiger 0]

While I'm at it, allow me to educate you:

3) Watch the name-calling. Grow up and act like adults. Now, we're not going to hammer every time a name gets tossed out, but if threads get derailed by the personal bickering or if you get into a groove of insulting rather than discussing things, we'll step in and tell you knock it off.

In other words, a name tossed out there or there doesn't break the rules.

Now, let's see if we can find a subject you know something about since coaches and reading apparently don't fit the bill. Knitting perhaps?

Classless. Truly classless. I thought you were supposed to be a mod, but I obviously was mistaken.

Thanks for reminding me why I miss AE so much.

You get the response you earn.

Back at ya. Cyberpunk. You and Petr

While I'm at it, allow me to educate you:

3) Watch the name-calling. Grow up and act like adults. Now, we're not going to hammer every time a name gets tossed out, but if threads get derailed by the personal bickering or if you get into a groove of insulting rather than discussing things, we'll step in and tell you knock it off.

In other words, a name tossed out there or there doesn't break the rules.

Now, let's see if we can find a subject you know something about since coaches and reading apparently don't fit the bill. Knitting perhaps?

Classless. Truly classless. I thought you were supposed to be a mod, but I obviously was mistaken.

Thanks for reminding me why I miss AE so much.

You get the response you earn.

Back at ya. Cyber Punk!!!

You crossed the threshold Mr. Moderator and we all know it...

Go play somewhere else. "Cyber Punk" lol

[johnjacob 44]

Let's just hire Kirby Smart and be done with it! The guy can obviously coach! I mean come on!

He has zero HC experience, so there is zero evidence he can coach. If he could he would have been hired last year. He is simply a saban henchman, that is good at doing what he is told.

[johnjacob 44]

Who I don't like:

Kirby Smart - Holds DC title under Saban in name only. Really just coaches Safeties. Is 36 years old. Has never been a real coordinator because Saban is the true DC. So never a HC, never a coordinator.

James Franklin - He is recruiting well for Vandy. But his offensive numbers are below what you expect. Play calling has been very suspect. 6 games into the year Vandy was dead last in NCAA in 3rd down conversion %.

Art Briles - Great offense when they had RG3. Nothing special in the wins and losses column without him. 3 losing seasons out of 5 at Baylor including this season.

Willie Taggart - Young (36?) coach with a 14-17 record. Need to see a lot more out of him before I would consider him. Need to see him coach his own recruits.

Jimbo Fisher - Some like him because he has AU connections. I see a coach whose best completed season was 10-4. This season his team is failing to meet expectations again with a bad loss to NC State.

Who I like:

Garry Patterson - TCU won 10 games or more 8 times out of 11 seasons. This guy is a winner.

Bobby Petrino - One of the best offensive minds in football. Resurrected Louisville and dominated the Big East. Two 10 win seasons out of 4 years at Arkansas. Arkansas. Success on the field would lead to strong recruiting.

Butch Jones - In a direct showdown with Louisville, the Cinci offense got the best of the Charlie Strong defense. They lost in OT but they scored 30 in regulation.

Charlie Strong - I'm luke warm on him to be honest. I think AU would have consistent top 20 - 25 ranked defenses under Strong. But he would be very dependent on having a top offensive coordinator to take up the slack. But I think he would bring in a lot of talent. A step above Tubs but not where I want AU to be.

Who I want to know more about:

John Chavis - One of the best defensive minds in football. Is he HC material?

Larry Fedora - Impressive at Southern Miss. UNC is off to a wacky season but Fedora inherited a lot of issues. Is he the mastermind of that offense or is it OC Blake Anderson?

I see your point on Strong and agree he would have to have very good OCs at AU to get us to the elite. He reminds me of an Afro-Am. Dye.

[WarEagle10 77]

In regards to Jimbo Fisher and money. We tried to hire Stoops away from FSU and was unable to do it. I don't think Jimbo is a real option.

Money didn't have a thing to do with Stoops not coming to Auburn.

[Austintxtiger 0]

John Chavis - One of the best defensive minds in football. Is he HC material?

That would be very interesting. If we were going to gamble on a coordinator he would be an understandable choice. I hadnt considered it, but the more I think about it, the more I like it.

[TigerNBham 3]

AUBourne,

Your post on coaches was well thought out.

Gary Patterson and Charlie Strong are my best candidates to consider as a match for us.

Chavis might be good if he can step up to HC level?

I think all of the above are pipe dreams with current AD

Your also favorite of Petrino would be the most realistic pick under that circumstance.

[Shire5k 19]

I bet most safety coaches wish they could get paid 750k to be flunky pretend-DCs.

[AUgrad00 7]

Were screwed. Our idiot PTB refuse to take a big swing. Sorry Malzahn doesnt excite me. Petrino either.

F'ing Pete Carroll dammit.

[AUBourne 425]

I bet most safety coaches wish they could get paid 750k to be flunky pretend-DCs.

So you're saying he could be the bag man?

[AUgrad00 7]

Oh and for the geniuses saying Patterson he aint coming unless Jackson and Jacobs are GONE.

I heard Muschamp would never come as long as Jacobs is in charge when his name was being floated prior to Chizik.

[AUBourne 425]

Oh and for the geniuses saying Patterson he aint coming unless Jackson and Jacobs are GONE.

I heard Muschamp would never come as long as Jacobs is in charge when his name was being floated prior to Chizik.

Was the sarcastic name calling really necessary? Did you talk to Patterson and he tell you that? Or do you claim to have some great inside source?

[Wrights_Mill_Road 2]

Were screwed. Our idiot PTB refuse to take a big swing. Sorry Malzahn doesnt excite me. Petrino either.

F'ing Pete Carroll dammit.

Pete Carroll = probation city

[cashjm1 0]

I haven't seen this name at all. I know he's unproven as a head coach and a young guy, but exciting none the less. Chad Morris from Clemson. We have the players for his offense. I think recruits would love the idea of running an offense like Clemson's. Which if I'm not mistaken is very similar to Gus Malzahn's O.

1..2..3...go