ellitor 33,107 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Chason Virgil, QB Mesquite, TX (West Mesquite) Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 170 | 40: 4.58 - AU offered 1/30/14 Offers: Arizona State, Auburn, Boise State, Clemson, Colorado, Mississippi State, Missouri, Nebraska, Toledo and UCLA, among others. Composite & 247 Profile Hudl Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTcRX0tJpxQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,107 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 That's QB #8 offered so far for 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE_OxPx_2010 5,305 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I know it's early, but what if they all commit? What's the strategy here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,107 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 I know it's early, but what if they all commit? What's the strategy here? They won't. More than likely only 2 of them have commitable offers right now besides TQ. Offers to the rest are to get the foot in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdofPrey76 0 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I know it's early, but what if they all commit? What's the strategy here? They won't. More than likely only 2 of them have commitable offers right now besides TQ. Offers to the rest are to get the foot in the door. And the late worm gets the bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDTiger80 790 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Another great looking DT QB. He can run and throw. I think he could use more weight. His team is loaded with talent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDE_OxPx_2010 5,305 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I know it's early, but what if they all commit? What's the strategy here? They won't. More than likely only 2 of them have commitable offers right now besides TQ. Offers to the rest are to get the foot in the door. Committable offers? Foot in the door? Recruiting lingo, I'm not following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,107 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 I know it's early, but what if they all commit? What's the strategy here? They won't. More than likely only 2 of them have commitable offers right now besides TQ. Offers to the rest are to get the foot in the door. Committable offers? Foot in the door? Recruiting lingo, I'm not following Explanation on page 3 of the Wilkerson thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Committable offers? Foot in the door? Recruiting lingo, I'm not following A recruit needs to receive clearance from the head coach before he can commit. Just because we "offer" a bunch of quarterbacks, doesn't mean that they can all commit tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 ok, you offer a kid a scholarship but he is not allowed to commit to it? recieve clearance from the head coach? shouldnt the person who offers him have already cleared this with the head coach, or be the hc himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravejd 3,270 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Every team out there offers tons of players. Ever wonder how the top 300 players claim to have a bama offer? Not saying I agree with it or not, but that's how it is in recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 ok, you offer a kid a scholarship but he is not allowed to commit to it? recieve clearance from the head coach? shouldnt the person who offers him have already cleared this with the head coach, or be the hc himself. The recruit has most of the power in the relationship. A school with room for one quarterback in their signing class can not offer one quarterback and then hope that said quarterback ultimately chooses you 6 months down the line when that same player is entertaining a dozen+ other schools who are interested in him. That is simply not realistic. Instead, a bunch of preliminary "offers" are sent out which more or less imply that the coaching staff is very interested in you. Some kids that receive these offers are immediate takes for the school (ie: a commit-able offer), others are going to need to show more before the school will officially agree to accept their "commitment". That is why I said that the HC must clear all "Commitments" before they become official. The kid with an "offer" will call the staff and tell them he wants to commit, at which point the HC will either accept the commitment or put it on the back-burner. Technically speaking, the only time a recruit has a REAL scholarship offer is when a Letter of Intent or Financial Aid Agreement (the new "thing" you're seeing this year) is presented to them. Anything prior to that point is just informal "word of bond" posturing. No different than how a recruit can "Commit" to a school but then freely choose to sign with whomever he pleases on Signing Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixie1860 27 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I have to say that is a pretty good explanation. Short but informative. I figured everyone had that figured out because we discuss it alot. But we are less than a week out and everyone is checking the recruiting board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The main thing to understand, and the most vital (ie: it explains everything), is that these "offers" are NOT scholarship offers. These are not legally binding pieces of paper which binds one party to the other. Therefore when you see 10 quarterbacks with "offers", they obviously can not all choose to attend Auburn. s***, a team can accept the commitment of a player and then choose to pull their offer down the line if they choose so, just like the kid can commit and then ultimately sign elsewhere. It makes the school look bad when an offer is pulled, but it happens sometimes. That is why coaches dont accept commitments until they are completely confident in the kid and his abilities, but even then things sometimes change. It isn't a difficult concept. The main thing to remember is that a kid only receives a real binding scholarship on signing day, or for early-enrollees when a FAA is granted (this binds the school to the player, but the player can ultimately still choose to sign with whomever he wants). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixie1860 27 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Gus has really made the point that the buck stops with him. Insisting on face to face contact in most cases and at least a one on one phone call. The kid in TX, Garza? is a perfect example. He was going to commit but was told to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,107 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 ok, you offer a kid a scholarship but he is not allowed to commit to it? recieve clearance from the head coach? shouldnt the person who offers him have already cleared this with the head coach, or be the hc himself. The recruit has most of the power in the relationship. A school with room for one quarterback in their signing class can not offer one quarterback and then hope that said quarterback ultimately chooses you 6 months down the line when that same player is entertaining a dozen+ other schools who are interested in him. That is simply not realistic. Instead, a bunch of preliminary "offers" are sent out which more or less imply that the coaching staff is very interested in you. Some kids that receive these offers are immediate takes for the school (ie: a commit-able offer), others are going to need to show more before the school will officially agree to accept their "commitment". That is why I said that the HC must clear all "Commitments" before they become official. The kid with an "offer" will call the staff and tell them he wants to commit, at which point the HC will either accept the commitment or put it on the back-burner. Technically speaking, the only time a recruit has a REAL scholarship offer is when a Letter of Intent or Financial Aid Agreement (the new "thing" you're seeing this year) is presented to them. Anything prior to that point is just informal "word of bond" posturing. No different than how a recruit can "Commit" to a school but then freely choose to sign with whomever he pleases on Signing Day. This is great stuff. There is more though. An offer now is basically a foot in the door. You're letting the prospect you are interested, but you haven't done all the necessary homework and don't have a personal enough relationship with the prospect to give a commitable offer. That term means the program has built the relationship, checked grades, or the prospect is so elite that they can bypass the usual steps, and the prospect could commit and the commitment would be accepted by the HC. You usually offer a prospect with stipulations such as looking more at grades, or offer is good dependent on completing certain criteria in the senior season . It gives a program wiggle room to pull back from the offer later if the prospect doesn't develop as expected. It allows the coaches to take back some control this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 ok, you offer a kid a scholarship but he is not allowed to commit to it? recieve clearance from the head coach? shouldnt the person who offers him have already cleared this with the head coach, or be the hc himself. The recruit has most of the power in the relationship. A school with room for one quarterback in their signing class can not offer one quarterback and then hope that said quarterback ultimately chooses you 6 months down the line when that same player is entertaining a dozen+ other schools who are interested in him. That is simply not realistic. Instead, a bunch of preliminary "offers" are sent out which more or less imply that the coaching staff is very interested in you. Some kids that receive these offers are immediate takes for the school (ie: a commit-able offer), others are going to need to show more before the school will officially agree to accept their "commitment". That is why I said that the HC must clear all "Commitments" before they become official. The kid with an "offer" will call the staff and tell them he wants to commit, at which point the HC will either accept the commitment or put it on the back-burner. Technically speaking, the only time a recruit has a REAL scholarship offer is when a Letter of Intent or Financial Aid Agreement (the new "thing" you're seeing this year) is presented to them. Anything prior to that point is just informal "word of bond" posturing. No different than how a recruit can "Commit" to a school but then freely choose to sign with whomever he pleases on Signing Day. This is great stuff. There is more though. An offer now is basically a foot in the door. You're letting the prospect you are interested, but you haven't done all the necessary homework and don't have a personal enough relationship with the prospect to give a commitable offer. That term means the program has built the relationship, checked grades, or the prospect is so elite that they can bypass the usual steps, and the prospect could commit and the commitment would be accepted by the HC. You usually offer a prospect with stipulations such as looking more at grades, or offer is good dependent on completing certain criteria in the senior season . It gives a program wiggle room to pull back from the offer later if the prospect doesn't develop as expected. It allows the coaches to take back some control this way. Gus gives a QB prospect an offer based on said QB prospect visit AU and throw for him in person. If Gus likes what he sees then the committable offer is extended. Gus did this with both White and Queen. Like some said here the offer is to show that AU is very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,433 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 A-Day visitor. OP updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Chason is reopening his recruitment...auburn is probably back to middle of the pack. kudos to al.com for reporting it, they are usually a month behind on everything http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/04/report_florida_now_contending.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,107 Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Chason is reopening his recruitment...auburn is probably back to middle of the pack. kudos to al.com for reporting it, they are usually a month behind on everything http://www.al.com/sp...contending.html Doubt we are near the middle. If he had a commitable offer AU would likely be #1 or him committed but alas he does not have a commitable AU offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kd4au 1,145 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Chason is reopening his recruitment...auburn is probably back to middle of the pack. kudos to al.com for reporting it, they are usually a month behind on everything http://www.al.com/sp...contending.html Doubt we are near the middle. If he had a commitable offer AU would likely be #1 or him committed but alas he does not have a commitable AU offer. Does this mean we are in good shape with Gibson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammycam2 173 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Chason is reopening his recruitment...auburn is probably back to middle of the pack. kudos to al.com for reporting it, they are usually a month behind on everything http://www.al.com/sp...contending.html Doubt we are near the middle. If he had a commitable offer AU would likely be #1 or him committed but alas he does not have a commitable AU offer. Does this mean we are in good shape with Gibson? IMO, no. It just means we are still in the hunt for someone our coaches believe is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,107 Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Chason is reopening his recruitment...auburn is probably back to middle of the pack. kudos to al.com for reporting it, they are usually a month behind on everything http://www.al.com/sp...contending.html Doubt we are near the middle. If he had a commitable offer AU would likely be #1 or him committed but alas he does not have a commitable AU offer. Does this mean we are in good shape with Gibson? It does not mean that but we are in good shape with Gibby, and Kai for that matter. We are in the top 2 for both right now. They are the only 2 QBs besides TQ who have commitable offers right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDTiger80 790 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Chason is reopening his recruitment...auburn is probably back to middle of the pack. kudos to al.com for reporting it, they are usually a month behind on everything http://www.al.com/sp...contending.html Doubt we are near the middle. If he had a commitable offer AU would likely be #1 or him committed but alas he does not have a commitable AU offer. Does this mean we are in good shape with Gibson? It does not mean that but we are in good shape with Gibby, and Kai for that matter. We are in the top 2 for both right now. They are the only 2 QBs besides TQ who have commitable offers right now. Good to hear this. I like Kai films film a lot and we all know Gibson is a huge talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Bump. Any idea why 247 has him as a pro style QB, clearly a dual threat QB. His commitment date is May 20th, where do we sit with him right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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