How Martin Luther King Jr. overcame “Christian” white supremacy

[AUUSN 823]

"One of my earliest memories is of a substitute Sunday school teacher chastening me for putting a coin in my mouth. “That’s filthy,” she said. “Why, you don’t know if a colored man might have held that.” It might just be my imagination playing tricks on me, but it seems as though she immediately followed this up with, “Alright children, let’s sing ‘Jesus Loves the Little Children, All the Children of the World.’

”Now, this lady probably didn’t consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn’t think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn’t see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

"She wasn’t alone.

"On the question of civil rights in the American Christian context, there is little question that, with few exceptions, the “progressives” were right, often heroically right, and the “conservatives” were wrong, often satanically wrong. In the narrative of the dismantling of Jim Crow, conservatives were often the villains and progressives were most often on the side of the angels, indeed on the side of Jesus."

http://erlc.com/arti...white-supremacy

[AUDub 9,980]

Interesting article. White supremacy still has a very Christian, specifically ultra-Protestant, flavor to it today, what with the Christian Identity movement.

Edited January 20, 2015 by Bigbens42

[TitanTiger 17,235]

I'd go further than "ultra" straight to "hyper" or "radicalized." There's certainly the Aryan Nation strain that is more agnostic or atheist, but there are certainly more than a fair share of hyper-fundamentalist groups that subscribe to such views.

[AURaptor 1,113]

Interesting article. White supremacy still has a very Christian, specifically ultra-Protestant, flavor to it today, what with the Christian Identity movement.

Totally unlike black socialist liberation theology, huh ?

[AUDub 9,980]

Interesting article. White supremacy still has a very Christian, specifically ultra-Protestant, flavor to it today, what with the Christian Identity movement.

Totally unlike black socialist liberation theology, huh ?

Try to stay on topic for a change, goof troop.

[AURaptor 1,113]

I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

[AUDub 9,980]

I asked a question .

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Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

[AURaptor 1,113]

I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

Got it.

Verboten.

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I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

Got it.

Verboten.

Mmm hmm. :-\

[TitanTiger 17,235]

I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

Got it.

Verboten.

No, you don't "get it." Your question wasn't relevant. No one made any assertion, implied or otherwise, regarding black racist groups. It was a discussion of MLK's experience with white supremacists and how those people also had a place within certain "Christian" groups. That's it.

[WarTim 3,192]

"One of my earliest memories is of a substitute Sunday school teacher chastening me for putting a coin in my mouth. “That’s filthy,” she said. “Why, you don’t know if a colored man might have held that.” It might just be my imagination playing tricks on me, but it seems as though she immediately followed this up with, “Alright children, let’s sing ‘Jesus Loves the Little Children, All the Children of the World.’

”Now, this lady probably didn’t consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn’t think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn’t see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

"She wasn’t alone.

"On the question of civil rights in the American Christian context, there is little question that, with few exceptions, the “progressives” were right, often heroically right, and the “conservatives” were wrong, often satanically wrong. In the narrative of the dismantling of Jim Crow, conservatives were often the villains and progressives were most often on the side of the angels, indeed on the side of Jesus."

http://erlc.com/arti...white-supremacy

WOW. Now you are attacking Christians with opinions? Biggest load of hate and bigotry I have seen here in a while. Your buddy will be blushing with pride. Typical lib HATE.

[AUDub 9,980]

"One of my earliest memories is of a substitute Sunday school teacher chastening me for putting a coin in my mouth. “That’s filthy,” she said. “Why, you don’t know if a colored man might have held that.” It might just be my imagination playing tricks on me, but it seems as though she immediately followed this up with, “Alright children, let’s sing ‘Jesus Loves the Little Children, All the Children of the World.’

”Now, this lady probably didn’t consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn’t think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn’t see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

"She wasn’t alone.

"On the question of civil rights in the American Christian context, there is little question that, with few exceptions, the “progressives” were right, often heroically right, and the “conservatives” were wrong, often satanically wrong. In the narrative of the dismantling of Jim Crow, conservatives were often the villains and progressives were most often on the side of the angels, indeed on the side of Jesus."

http://erlc.com/arti...white-supremacy

WOW. Now you are attacking Christians with opinions? Biggest load of hate and bigotry I have seen here in a while. Your buddy will be blushing with pride. Typical lib HATE.

He did no such thing.

[AUUSN 823]

"One of my earliest memories is of a substitute Sunday school teacher chastening me for putting a coin in my mouth. "That's filthy," she said. "Why, you don't know if a colored man might have held that." It might just be my imagination playing tricks on me, but it seems as though she immediately followed this up with, "Alright children, let's sing 'Jesus Loves the Little Children, All the Children of the World.'

"Now, this lady probably didn't consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn't think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn't see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

"She wasn't alone.

"On the question of civil rights in the American Christian context, there is little question that, with few exceptions, the "progressives" were right, often heroically right, and the "conservatives" were wrong, often satanically wrong. In the narrative of the dismantling of Jim Crow, conservatives were often the villains and progressives were most often on the side of the angels, indeed on the side of Jesus."

http://erlc.com/arti...white-supremacy

WOW. Now you are attacking Christians with opinions? Biggest load of hate and bigotry I have seen here in a while. Your buddy will be blushing with pride. Typical lib HATE.

Explain yourself. You've accused me of something, now back it up.

[TitanTiger 17,235]

"One of my earliest memories is of a substitute Sunday school teacher chastening me for putting a coin in my mouth. "That's filthy," she said. "Why, you don't know if a colored man might have held that." It might just be my imagination playing tricks on me, but it seems as though she immediately followed this up with, "Alright children, let's sing 'Jesus Loves the Little Children, All the Children of the World.'

"Now, this lady probably didn't consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn't think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn't see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

"She wasn't alone.

"On the question of civil rights in the American Christian context, there is little question that, with few exceptions, the "progressives" were right, often heroically right, and the "conservatives" were wrong, often satanically wrong. In the narrative of the dismantling of Jim Crow, conservatives were often the villains and progressives were most often on the side of the angels, indeed on the side of Jesus."

http://erlc.com/arti...white-supremacy

WOW. Now you are attacking Christians with opinions? Biggest load of hate and bigotry I have seen here in a while. Your buddy will be blushing with pride. Typical lib HATE.

What on earth are you talking about?

[homersapien 9,736]

Is it really fair for us to have to endure more than one village idiot?

[AURaptor 1,113]

I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

Got it.

Verboten.

No, you don't "get it." Your question wasn't relevant. No one made any assertion, implied or otherwise, regarding black racist groups. It was a discussion of MLK's experience with white supremacists and how those people also had a place within certain "Christian" groups. That's it.

”Now, this lady probably didn’t consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn’t think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn’t see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

Glad we have smart people to tell others what really in their hearts & what they really are thinking.

[TitanTiger 17,235]

I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

Got it.

Verboten.

No, you don't "get it." Your question wasn't relevant. No one made any assertion, implied or otherwise, regarding black racist groups. It was a discussion of MLK's experience with white supremacists and how those people also had a place within certain "Christian" groups. That's it.

"Now, this lady probably didn't consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn't think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn't see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

Glad we have smart people to tell others what really in their hearts & what they really are thinking.

He was making a supposition based on her behavior. I imagine he was probably right:

--She likely didn't consider herself a white supremacist or racist.

--She probably didn't think of her views and actions as undermining the Gospel.

--She probably didn't consider her racial views to be contradictory to the faith she proclaimed.

--She likely didn't realize or see how her views fit more within an anti-Christian worldview than a Christian one.

He was actually giving her the benefit of the doubt...attributing her actions more to ignorance than conscious malice. Would you prefer the alternate view?

--She totally sees herself as a white supremacist.

--She probably realizes her views are undermining the Gospel but doesn't care.

--She understands her views are contradictory to her proclaimed faith, but is totally cool with being a hypocrite so long as those n****rs know their place.

--She did understand that her views reflected Social Darwinism more than Christianity, but didn't give a s***.

[AURaptor 1,113]

He was making a supposition based on her behavior. I imagine he was probably right:

Supposition..imagine.. Probably .

Ok , sounds like a solid case.

I'm sold.

[TitanTiger 17,235]

He was making a supposition based on her behavior. I imagine he was probably right:

Supposition..imagine.. Probably .

Ok , sounds like a solid case.

I'm sold.

You sold your brain. Engage the entirety of what I said or save us the wasted seconds reading your drivel.

[AUUSN 823]

I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

Got it.

Verboten.

No, you don't "get it." Your question wasn't relevant. No one made any assertion, implied or otherwise, regarding black racist groups. It was a discussion of MLK's experience with white supremacists and how those people also had a place within certain "Christian" groups. That's it.

"Now, this lady probably didn't consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn't think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn't see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

Glad we have smart people to tell others what really in their hearts & what they really are thinking.

I'm venturing to guess that you failed to read the entire article again? In professional writing, it's usually customary to begin with a vignette. You got so wrapped around the axel on that that you failed to even considering reading the article? Are you that narrow minded?

[AUDub 9,980]

I'd go further than "ultra" straight to "hyper" or "radicalized." There's certainly the Aryan Nation strain that is more agnostic or atheist, but there are certainly more than a fair share of hyper-fundamentalist groups that subscribe to such views.

Back to this.

True enough. For the most part, Aryan Nations could still qualify as fundamentalist. Google "Church of Jesus Christ-Christian."

I'm sure there atheist and agnostic offshoots out there, but I've personally never seen them. I may be wrong, but I imagine they're relatively rare.

[TitanTiger 17,235]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity_(religion)

Under About.com's atheism section: http://atheism.about.com/library/legal/megiddo/bl_meg_supremacy.htm

[autigeremt 5,665]

"One of my earliest memories is of a substitute Sunday school teacher chastening me for putting a coin in my mouth. “That’s filthy,” she said. “Why, you don’t know if a colored man might have held that.” It might just be my imagination playing tricks on me, but it seems as though she immediately followed this up with, “Alright children, let’s sing ‘Jesus Loves the Little Children, All the Children of the World.’

”Now, this lady probably didn’t consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn’t think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn’t see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

"She wasn’t alone.

"On the question of civil rights in the American Christian context, there is little question that, with few exceptions, the “progressives” were right, often heroically right, and the “conservatives” were wrong, often satanically wrong. In the narrative of the dismantling of Jim Crow, conservatives were often the villains and progressives were most often on the side of the angels, indeed on the side of Jesus."

http://erlc.com/arti...white-supremacy

Not shocked by that. Interesting information. Radicalization is often combined with religious ideology to help cement a belief.

[AUDub 9,980]

http://en.wikipedia....ivity_(religion)

Under About.com's atheism section: http://atheism.about...g_supremacy.htm

Thank you.

Their founder seems like a real piece of work, but he did invent the wall mounted electric can opener.

[AURaptor 1,113]

I asked a question .

Is that verboten ?

Don't play dumb. You were trolling.

Got it.

Verboten.

No, you don't "get it." Your question wasn't relevant. No one made any assertion, implied or otherwise, regarding black racist groups. It was a discussion of MLK's experience with white supremacists and how those people also had a place within certain "Christian" groups. That's it.

"Now, this lady probably didn't consciously think of herself as a white supremacist. She almost certainly didn't think of herself as subversive of the gospel itself. She never thought about the hypocrisy of holding the two contradictory worldviews together in her mind. She probably didn't see how her dehumanizing of African-Americans was a twisted form of Darwinism rather than biblical Christianity.

Glad we have smart people to tell others what really in their hearts & what they really are thinking.

I'm venturing to guess that you failed to read the entire article again? In professional writing, it's usually customary to begin with a vignette. You got so wrapped around the axel on that that you failed to even considering reading the article? Are you that narrow minded?

So, let's see if I have this right...

If I just comment on what is posted, on what I read , I'm being " narrow minded " ?

But if anyone sees an out if context/ made up comment or description of what someone else said, then THEY are the voice of common sense , fairness & reason.

GOT IT !!