TheBlueVue 177 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html "The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America." Amen to that and secession sounds like an ideal move for the rest of America. I, for one, truly wish them well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Except that if this were to happen (and it won't), we as Americans would lose major import/export docks, strategic military bases, and the state which currently produces 12% of our total GDP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,136 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, TheBlueVue said: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html "The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America." Amen to that and secession sounds like an ideal move for the rest of America. I, for one, truly wish them well. You and Putin and China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 39 minutes ago, TheBlueVue said: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html "The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America." Amen to that and secession sounds like an ideal move for the rest of America. I, for one, truly wish them well. Nice to fast track it. how will it effect college athletics and professional baseball? To hell with the NFL and NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,528 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 So would we need to build a wall around California now too? Thanks, I'll hang up and listen ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,528 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 week into the job and Trump is already creating the potential for the Union to break up ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,528 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, RunInRed said: 1 week into the job and Trump is already creating the potential for Union to break up ... One other point, for the best job creator of all time, he sure would be causing a lot of jobs to leave America ... just a few of the companies headquarted in Cali: Apple Bank of the West Bank of America Home Loans BMW of North America Charles Schwab Corporation Chevron Directv eBay Experian Facebook Farmers Insurance Gap Google Haagen Daaz HP Hyundai North America IBM Intel Corp Levi Strauss & Co. Lucas Oil Microsoft OneWest Bank PacSun Paramount Pictures PayPal Petco Qualcomm Sony Pictures Taco Bell Tesla Motors The North Face Toyota Motor Sales, USA Trader Joe's Twitter Walt Disney Warner Bros. Wells Fargo Yahoo Yelp YouTube And on and on and on ... Or to put it in layman's terms, Trump would be the direct cause of a loss of about 20 Million US jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, RunInRed said: So would we need to build a wall around California now too? Thanks, I'll hang up and listen ... definitly, and make them pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: definitly, and make them pay for it. They would probably volunteer to put it up themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, RunInRed said: One other point, for the best job creator of all time, he sure would be causing a lot of jobs to leave America ... just a few of the companies headquarted in Cali: Apple Bank of the West Bank of America Home Loans BMW of North America Charles Schwab Corporation Chevron Directv eBay Experian Facebook Farmers Insurance Gap Google Haagen Daaz HP Hyundai North America IBM Intel Corp Levi Strauss & Co. Lucas Oil Microsoft OneWest Bank PacSun Paramount Pictures PayPal Petco Qualcomm Sony Pictures Taco Bell Tesla Motors The North Face Toyota Motor Sales, USA Trader Joe's Twitter Walt Disney Warner Bros. Wells Fargo Yahoo Yelp YouTube And on and on and on ... Or to put it in layman's terms, Trump would be the direct cause of a loss of about 20 Million US jobs. Does this mean I'll have to pay 20% more at Trader Joes?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,128 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 They need to be brought back to heel. Denying Fed $ for sanctions cities is a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,464 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, AURaptor said: They need to be brought back to heel. Denying Fed $ for sanctions cities is a great start. Thank you Mr. States Rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,464 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, RunInRed said: 1 week into the job and Trump is already creating the potential for Union to break up ... That is not entirely Trump's fault. It could be a little premature and overly reactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,776 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Secession is illegal and against...... Where have I heard this before? LOL! It's their constitutional right. Adios, amigos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,118 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 4 hours ago, RunInRed said: One other point, for the best job creator of all time, he sure would be causing a lot of jobs to leave America ... just a few of the companies headquarted in Cali: Apple Bank of the West Bank of America Home Loans BMW of North America Charles Schwab Corporation Chevron Directv eBay Experian Facebook Farmers Insurance Gap Google Haagen Daaz HP Hyundai North America IBM Intel Corp Levi Strauss & Co. Lucas Oil Microsoft OneWest Bank PacSun Paramount Pictures PayPal Petco Qualcomm Sony Pictures Taco Bell Tesla Motors The North Face Toyota Motor Sales, USA Trader Joe's Twitter Walt Disney Warner Bros. Wells Fargo Yahoo Yelp YouTube And on and on and on ... Or to put it in layman's terms, Trump would be the direct cause of a loss of about 20 Million US jobs. Nope, many would relocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,118 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 hours ago, TheBlueVue said: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html "The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America." Amen to that and secession sounds like an ideal move for the rest of America. I, for one, truly wish them well. Don't let the door hit them in the arse on the way out! Would absolutely love to see this, but obviously it will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,528 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 49 minutes ago, AU-24 said: Nope, many would relocate. Oh yeah? How do you come to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,128 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, RunInRed said: Oh yeah? How do you come to that conclusion? Probably based on the insane taxes that are and would be levied upon the remaining businesses, the massive influx of even MORE immigrants, taxing the welfare, schools, social services to the breaking point, and ...oh no! No US Federal tax $ to come to their rescue !!! Talk all they want, it'll never happen. NEVER. This is all a whine and beach fest over Hillary losing. ( Oh, and take those 55 Electoral votes away from future Democrats ?? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,118 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, RunInRed said: Oh yeah? How do you come to that conclusion? Taxes, regulations to include environmental regulations. Many of the companies listed above have large offices in other states, even if they are headquartered in Calli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,542 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, RunInRed said: Oh yeah? How do you come to that conclusion? He's probably right to some degree. As valuable California is, unfettered access to the rest of the US market is far more valuable than siding with CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 6 hours ago, AU-24 said: Don't let the door hit them in the arse on the way out! Would absolutely love to see this, but obviously it will never happen. You're hitting your average. That's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 5 hours ago, AURaptor said: Probably based on the insane taxes that are and would be levied upon the remaining businesses, the massive influx of even MORE immigrants, taxing the welfare, schools, social services to the breaking point, and ...oh no! No US Federal tax $ to come to their rescue !!! Which will only boost their economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 4 hours ago, TitanTiger said: He's probably right to some degree. As valuable California is, unfettered access to the rest of the US market is far more valuable than siding with CA. Not exactly sure about your point, but from California's perspective, free access to Asia would serve California quite well. The more relevant issue is that how the US would do without California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,128 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 12 hours ago, homersapien said: Which will only boost their economy. Like it's been doing ? For decades ? My god, you really are a kool-aid drinker, to the very end. But thanks for proving that you only see what you want to see. I specifically mentioned the influx adding to the already burdened welfare system, which is where most of these immigrants would end up. Think the city of Detroit, with all his insane benefits workers got , thanks to the union stranglehold on the city, but on a massive , state wide scale. Basically, think Mexico, but not the pretty resort area parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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