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Just now, TitanTiger said:

Well you didn't say "you."  You said "no Christian..."  You even followed it up with "we Christians..."  I simply pointed out that if James Dobson is putting that out there, it's quite likely some Christians did.  In other words, you can't back up a claim that broad with no qualifiers.

 

In other words you are looking for a fight.  I proved my claim.  True Christians do not think of Donald Trump as one of us.

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6 minutes ago, lost said:

In other words you are looking for a fight.  I proved my claim.  True Christians do not think of Donald Trump as one of us.

I'm not looking for anything.  I'm simply calling out a claim (that "no Christian" voted for Trump because they believed he was a fellow Christian) that cannot be backed up and that you did not prove.

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2 minutes ago, lost said:

In other words you are looking for a fight.  I proved my claim.  True Christians do not think of Donald Trump as one of us.

I would love to see DT stop cursing, stop making lude remarks to women, and some of the other ungodly things he indulges in.. He seems to have a desire to acknowledge God, but just seems to not be able to give up the carnal things he has indulged in. With Christ all things are possible though, and I would hope and pray that he has a true desire to change his ways. Time will tell

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1 hour ago, lost said:

COPOUT   Pure copout...  Bringing politics in a Godly discussion shows your true reasoning.  No Christian elected President Trump for his morals.  They elected him to stop socialism and a devil called hillary clinton.  And to attack those you say you are a part of again show the lack of Christianity, Jesus pointed out a Kingdom divided can not stand.  And he was talking to those who accused Him of being of satan.  The only ones who are putting SIN 1ST--- is those who insist it is not necessary to be free of it, Not necessary to address it, or not necessary to stand against it.....  Those who call themselves part of Jesus, yet insist on " no judgements and no restraints"--  except on Christians.

Reading comprehension is really a beneficial trait to possess when responding to posts. I didn't say Trump was elected by Christians because of his morals. I believe I called him one of the most immoral men to have ever served as POTUS. What I said was that Christians so livid about homosexuality and abortion helped elect him. Even Franklin Graham, for crying out loud, supported Trump. Never mind the man has a long list of questionable behaviors, let's overlook his sins so we can get a SCOTUS nominee. And I'm sick and tired of hearing that people wanted to stop socialism. You want to stop socialism? Stop having your trash picked up, don't call the cops, emt's or fire fighters, don't go to the YMCA, don't visit public parks or beaches. Stop using those evil socialistic programs. Hillary is not evil. I'm sick of hearing that too. Look at her record for public service and compare it to Trump's. Or contrast it, rather, because there is no comparison. 

If it makes you feel like a Christian to state that I'm not one, knock yourself out. I learned a long time ago not to care about what someone on the internet who has never met me or observed my life thinks about me. 

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5 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said:

Reading comprehension is really a beneficial trait to possess when responding to posts. I didn't say Trump was elected by Christians because of his morals. I believe I called him one of the most immoral men to have ever served as POTUS. What I said was that Christians so livid about homosexuality and abortion helped elect him. Even Franklin Graham, for crying out loud, supported Trump. Never mind the man has a long list of questionable behaviors, let's overlook his sins so we can get a SCOTUS nominee. And I'm sick and tired of hearing that people wanted to stop socialism. You want to stop socialism? Stop having your trash picked up, don't call the cops, emt's or fire fighters, don't go to the YMCA, don't visit public parks or beaches. Stop using those evil socialistic programs. Hillary is not evil. I'm sick of hearing that too. Look at her record for public service and compare it to Trump's. Or contrast it, rather, because there is no comparison. 

If it makes you feel like a Christian to state that I'm not one, knock yourself out. I learned a long time ago not to care about what someone on the internet who has never met me or observed my life thinks about me. 

lol  I just had the biggest belly laugh.  The typical liberal junk belched out of your mouth about socialism.  And your hang up on Trump and your love for liberalism is more than your supposed loved for Jesus and your own.  You are humorous trying to be one of us and one of them too.  You don't have to be any member of any party.  I am not.  I voted for Trump to try to save America.  1st time i have voted in many years.  I hate politics and hate party systems.  I don't know anything about how either have done on supposed jobs, etc.. Care less.  I am concerned on existing as a Nation.  That starts with family and values and morals.  The money part will take care of itself if the foundation part is right.

 

Oh yea i pay 55.00 a month to have my trashed picked up, pay city taxes to insure i have protection, police fireman, etc.  I pay when the emt's come out and do care.  You must get free govt care???

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25 minutes ago, lost said:

A MUD ^^  Lover... The only reason it is here

^^ Conservative snowflake with no substance..... out of his league. 

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Just now, homersapien said:

^^ Conservative snowflake with no substance..... out of his league. 

Actually I am an Auburn fan on the Auburn forum supposedly talking to Auburn fans.

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17 minutes ago, ArgoEagle said:

This is not a joke. Aren't you either atheist or agnostic? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

If you don't see the irony, it's not my problem.

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On 7/11/2017 at 9:02 AM, lost said:

If you are going to quote the Bible, know the Bible.  The Pharisees were Jews, Yes.  Church--N-O!!  The Jews did not even know Jesus when he came and rejected Him and still do today( He came unto His own and His own knew Him not John 1:11) They do not accept Jesus as being the Messiah.  The Pharisees and Sadducee were Jewish cults that were so far from the old testament law at the time Jesus constantly mocked them and scorned them.  They held people to it, but did not keep it themselves.  They also had "created" their own laws---  They were not the Church.  The Church were the Disciples and the new believers..  So get it right.  They were His people, yes--  So you got that "jeer" correct.  And no offense-- NONE WHATSOEVER--  But i will be glad to introduce you to the God of the Bible should you so chose.  My email address is on here and i will be glad to talk to you.  The God of the Bible is not the God who winks at sin.  Romans 6:6 even says He nailed the old man nature to the cross that we might have freedom from it.  So His death on the cross provided freedom from those things he calls a transgression.  We are not bound-- can't chose or help ourselves-- from doing any of those things he calls an abomination.

Let's get nit picky then. The Pharisees were the people who ran the temple. Since the modern day "church" wasn't created until Acts then I refer to the Pharisees as the church crowd of that day and time.

 

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3 minutes ago, lost said:

Actually I am an Auburn fan on the Auburn forum supposedly talking to Auburn fans.

So, are you going to tell me how the Bible informs your opinion on AGW or not?

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3 minutes ago, homersapien said:

If you don't see the irony, it's not my problem.

A legitimate question. Not given a legitimate answer.

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19 minutes ago, ArgoEagle said:

I would love to see DT stop cursing, stop making lude remarks to women, and some of the other ungodly things he indulges in.. He seems to have a desire to acknowledge God, but just seems to not be able to give up the carnal things he has indulged in. With Christ all things are possible though, and I would hope and pray that he has a true desire to change his ways. Time will tell

Seriously?  

He's a narcissistic psychopath who panders to his base.

Maybe he's trying to learn from Putin, who plays the "religious card" way better than Trump will ever do.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/11/vladimir-putin-finds-an-ally-in-resurgent-russian-/

http://carnegieendowment.org/2017/02/09/russian-orthodoxy-and-politics-in-putin-era-pub-67959

 

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5 minutes ago, lost said:

lol  I just had the biggest belly laugh.  The typical liberal junk belched out of your mouth about socialism.  And your hang up on Trump and your love for liberalism is more than your supposed loved for Jesus and your own.  You are humorous trying to be one of us and one of them too.  You don't have to be any member of any party.  I am not.  I voted for Trump to try to save America.  1st time i have voted in many years.  I hate politics and hate party systems.  I don't know anything about how either have done on supposed jobs, etc.. Care less.  I am concerned on existing as a Nation.  That starts with family and values and morals.  The money part will take care of itself if the foundation part is right.

And exactly how does a man who has been married three times, openly bragged about committing adultry, defrauded college students and refused to pay money he owes to business restore values and morals to America?

Let me reiterate, I DO NOT CARE what someone on the internet who knows nothing about my life thinks of me; so you can spare me the self righteous judgements. You're wasting your breath.

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Just now, GiveEmElle said:

Let's get nit picky then. The Pharisees were the people who ran the temple. Since the modern day "church" wasn't created until Acts then I refer to the Pharisees as the church crowd of that day and time.

 

Ok then.....  Let's do that.  Jesus actually organized the church when he went into the mountain and called his 12 and ordained them, sorry. This goes back to Psalms 72:16, and Isaiah 21:5) You can't do business as a church if you not already organized---  what they did in the upper room before the holy ghost was poured out in acts 2:4.  So they were already the Church.  Also again,  They had long been backslid as a nation and as a leadership.  So yes, they were His people, but they were not in any kind of relationship.

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4 minutes ago, ArgoEagle said:

A legitimate question. Not given a legitimate answer.

I am agnostic, but please, tell me what that has to do with subject post.

Lost was commenting about combining politics with "godly discussions" then launched into comments on fighting "socialism" and Hillary being the devil.

I find that Ironic.

 

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Just now, lost said:

Ok then.....  Let's do that.  Jesus actually organized the church when he went into the mountain and called his 12 and ordained them, sorry. This goes back to Psalms 72:16, and Isaiah 21:5) You can't do business as a church if you not already organized---  what they did in the upper room before the holy ghost was poured out in acts 2:4.  So they were already the Church.  Also again,  They had long been backslid as a nation and as a leadership.  So yes, they were His people, but they were not in any kind of relationship.

You're straining at gnats.  The Pharisees clearly represented the religious leaders and establishment of the day.  It is not the church, but it is a parallel...a forerunner of it.  It's one reason that so much of Christian liturgy is based on Jewish worship in the synagogue.  Don't be obtuse.

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Just now, GiveEmElle said:

And exactly how does a man who has been married three times, openly bragged about committing adultry, defrauded college students and refused to pay money he owes to business restore values and morals to America?

Let me reiterate, I DO NOT CARE what someone on the internet who knows nothing about my life thinks of me; so you can spare me the self righteous judgements. You're wasting your breath.

But you care about his?  again a big belly laugh.  Once you prove hillary was any better or bernie i will be glad to listen.  Oh yea, please have the courage to compare mine and yours.

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"Bringing politics in a Godly discussion shows your true reasoning.  No Christian elected President Trump for his morals.  They elected him to stop socialism and a devil called hillary clinton." 

That's ironic, no matter your religion.

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1 minute ago, homersapien said:

I am agnostic, but please, tell me what that has to do with subject post.

Lost was commenting about combining politics with "godly discussions" then launched into comments on fighting "socialism" and Hillary being the devil.

I find that Ironic.

 

My concern was were you asking a legit question about the Bible, or were you mocking?

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Just now, TitanTiger said:

You're straining at gnats.  The Pharisees clearly represented the religious leaders and establishment of the day.  It is not the church, but it is a parallel...a forerunner of it.  It's one reason that so much of Christian liturgy is based on Jewish worship in the synagogue.  Don't be obtuse.

Christian worship...   haha...  See you again try to put everything out there as Christian.  Nothing in the typical CHRISTIAN service has anything jewish in it

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2 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

You're straining at gnats.  The Pharisees clearly represented the religious leaders and establishment of the day.  It is not the church, but it is a parallel...a forerunner of it.  It's one reason that so much of Christian liturgy is based on Jewish worship in the synagogue.  Don't be obtuse.

The Pharisees may have represented a church, but not a Christian church. No Christian church would ever challenge Jesus like they did.

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4 minutes ago, lost said:

Ok then.....  Let's do that.  Jesus actually organized the church when he went into the mountain and called his 12 and ordained them, sorry. This goes back to Psalms 72:16, and Isaiah 21:5) You can't do business as a church if you not already organized---  what they did in the upper room before the holy ghost was poured out in acts 2:4.  So they were already the Church.  Also again,  They had long been backslid as a nation and as a leadership.  So yes, they were His people, but they were not in any kind of relationship.

Are you sure you aren't Jewish?   Your really good with Talmudic arguments.

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Just now, homersapien said:

Are you sure you aren't Jewish?   Your really good with Talmudic arguments.

You love the mud.  You were made for being a troll.

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4 minutes ago, ArgoEagle said:

The Pharisees may have represented a church, but not a Christian church. No Christian church would ever challenge Jesus like they did.

Au contrair.  We as Christians, and our churches, are every bit as capable of falling into error on this or that issue and "challenging Jesus."  Take the Southern Baptists for instance.  They wrongly too the side of slavery leading up to the Civil War and in many instances wrongly backed Jim Crow and segregation for a century after.  They were a Christian church with many faithful people - but they were clearly in the wrong and were clearly disobeying the very Scriptures they said they loved.  

We all have the ability to play the Pharisee at any given moment.

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May the Holy Trinity open our eyes that we may see. the truth in all things.