lionheartkc 6,150 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 59 minutes ago, McLoofus said: I wouldn't worry about Ashley. We'll see about Kim. It's unlikely, sure, but he was a bit time recruit, he's in the mix and different guys respond to different coaches. I'm not going to write him off based off what anyone here says. Be more like Loof... be more like Loof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 7,865 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 8 hours ago, lionheartkc said: Here's our first game production on the ground since 2013... (note: the only one of those years we opened against a cupcake was 2017) 2013 – 297 yards (only 27 were Nick) 2014 – 302 yards (only 19 were Nick)2015 – 190 yards (both Thomas and Robinson went out with injuries, Thomas after 6 carries and Robinson after 2) 2016 – 87 yards... we all know why and it wasn't trying to find a starting back... game 2 - 462 yards 2017 – 351 yards. As my broker says: “past performance does not reflect future earnings”. Each team and each season is different. 4 hours ago, lionheartkc said: Totally agree with one caveat. Sadly, Hand leaving this year won't benefit us at all if it's proven that he didn't bring in the talent we need to compete. I'm optimistic, but at the same time not ready to put my neck out there and say the O-Line won't be our eventual downfall in 2018, even with toughness and better teaching of technique. There are too many unknowns on the roster and we also have to count on 100% buy-in, which can be even harder to get from guys you didn't recruit. I look at Braums, Tega, and Ashley learning from Grimes and I see the making of something good to great, but I also know that none of those three have proven they can do it, yet. So, you do have concerns. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 5 hours ago, I_M4_AU said: So, you do have concerns. Good to know. Yea... I told you I had concerns about the line at least once. I just don't have concerns at running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 These guys need a LOT of work together as a unit so the sooner we name a starting OL the better. All this "mixing and matching" stuff is fine but there is a downside to it when a young starting OL needs work together. I'm just glad we have a coach like Grimes that teaches the details and fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,638 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Quoting @I_M4_AU, above " As my broker says: “past performance does not reflect future earnings”. Each team and each season is different. Yes, but you've based your entire position on prior performance, or what you perceived it to be. When the numbers don't match up you can hardly fall back on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitopher 807 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 We still REALLYneed a solid grad transfer for me to feel good about this unit next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,829 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 So mixing and matching helped us because we had so many injuries but it may also have hurt us getting our best unit to gel, correct? What would be the better of the 2 options there? We have been weirdly fortunate to have guys injured on the OL the last 2 years (uh, does this even make sense?) to force Hand to put the best lineup out there and the mixing and matching really was to our benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kd4au 1,145 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, Tiger said: So mixing and matching helped us because we had so many injuries but it may also have hurt us getting our best unit to gel, correct? What would be the better of the 2 options there? Considering we mostly have young players with out much starting experience, if it was my choice I would go with finding the best starting five and get them as much time together to gel as a unit. But continue to develop the second team so they would be ready if called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 It won't be easy replacing those starters from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, auburn4ever said: It won't be easy replacing those starters from last year. yes it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Tiger said: So mixing and matching helped us because we had so many injuries but it may also have hurt us getting our best unit to gel, correct? What would be the better of the 2 options there? We have been weirdly fortunate to have guys injured on the OL the last 2 years (uh, does this even make sense?) to force Hand to put the best lineup out there and the mixing and matching really was to our benefit. 7 hours ago, kd4au said: Considering we mostly have young players with out much starting experience, if it was my choice I would go with finding the best starting five and get them as much time together to gel as a unit. But continue to develop the second team so they would be ready if called upon. Yes, Hand had the luxury of several seasoned players he could move around and still maintain a functioning unit. Even then it didn't work every time. Grimes has to get these young guys assigned to their best positions and getting experience so they can function as a cohesive unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Roark 195 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I believe if Hamm can step up and take the RG position, this line has a chance to be really good. It would give us an experienced center (very important) and some talented players across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,571 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, Howard Roark said: I believe if Hamm can step up and take the RG position, this line has a chance to be really good. It would give us an experienced center (very important) and some talented players across the board. I rather a center step up and leave Horton at Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 56 minutes ago, bigbird said: I rather a center step up and leave Horton at Guard. That's my thought, too. Let's keep the good things going if we can. And good guard play seems to be crucial in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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