Auburnfan91 1,407 Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) Edited September 14, 2023 by Auburnfan91 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,777 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, AU9377 said: The bi partisan Senate committee on Ukraine issued a statement independent of the Executive branch of government demanding that Shokin be removed. Period. What did this have to do with the case? You know? The case of Joe Biden using influence on behalf of Hunter's "business partners" and then generations of Biden's getting rich through dummy corporations? Edited September 14, 2023 by Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU9377 5,136 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Mikey said: What did this have to do with the case? You know? The case of Joe Biden using influence on behalf of Hunter's "business partners". That is the problem. There is not "case" at this point. There isn't even a firm allegation of abuse of office as VP or anything else. Part of the vague allegations made by the Speaker of the House is an allegation that the President influenced decisions by the DOJ to protect his son. That is based on IRS agent testimony. This testimony refutes part of that testimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU9377 5,136 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Auburnfan91 said: Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't known about in 2019 and the government documents in the articles weren't known about in 2019. All the info that's been gathered paints an entirely different picture that what was known in 2019. Pyatt complained about Zlochevsky being corrupt in September 2015 yet Hunter Biden had a private meeting with him on December 4, 2015. It wasn't known in 2019 that Hunter had a meeting with Zlochevsky in Dubai and that he 'called D.C.' during the meeting. What Hunter did and didn't do is irrelevant as it pertains to what the then VP was doing. The stretching of this in an attempt to make it fit a current narrative will fail. The only people that don't see that are those intentionally trying to make a square peg fit a round hole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,777 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, AU9377 said: That is the problem. There is not "case" at this point. There isn't even a firm allegation of abuse of office as VP or anything else. Part of the vague allegations made by the Speaker of the House is an allegation that the President influenced decisions by the DOJ to protect his son. That is based on IRS agent testimony. This testimony refutes part of that testimony. I see you will continue your "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" attitude toward this wrongdoing by the Bidens until forever. As these investigations proceed, more and more will be revealed. That's how it works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,130 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Mikey said: I see you will continue your "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" attitude toward this wrongdoing by the Bidens until forever. As these investigations proceed, more and more will be revealed. That's how it works. If and when wrongdoing is revealed, that’s when rational people will react to it. That’s how rational people work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,777 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: If and when wrongdoing is revealed, that’s when rational people will react to it. That’s how rational people work. Rational people make rational assumptions when a guy who brings nothing to a company or foreign adversary gets million dollar positions for no reason other than his daddy is a powerful United States politician. Rational people know that these bad actors don't give $ millions away for the devil of it. They expect and do get something for their money. If Hunter/Joe hadn't delivered they would both be gone from this earth by now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,130 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mikey said: Rational people make rational assumptions when a guy who brings nothing to a company or foreign adversary gets million dollar positions for no reason other than his daddy is a powerful United States politician. Rational people know that these bad actors don't give $ millions away for the devil of it. They expect and do get something for their money. If Hunter/Joe hadn't delivered they would both be gone from this earth by now. Devon Archer said they hired Hunter for his Washington connections/experience, including, but not limited to, who his Daddy was. He also said Hunter told him he had no influence over his Dad and couldn’t point to a single thing Joe delivered in 10 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,943 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Again, someone must tell the truth. Who do you trust? https://themessenger.com/opinion/five-facts-that-compel-the-houses-biden-impeachment-inquiry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU9377 5,136 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Mikey said: Rational people make rational assumptions when a guy who brings nothing to a company or foreign adversary gets million dollar positions for no reason other than his daddy is a powerful United States politician. Rational people know that these bad actors don't give $ millions away for the devil of it. They expect and do get something for their money. If Hunter/Joe hadn't delivered they would both be gone from this earth by now. They hope it gives them some favorable leverage or influence. That doesn't mean that they get what they are paying for. Chinese and Russian companies are notorious for this. American companies do the same thing with their board member appointments, but we pretend that they don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,130 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, AU9377 said: They hope it gives them some favorable leverage or influence. That doesn't mean that they get what they are paying for. Chinese and Russian companies are notorious for this. American companies do the same thing with their board member appointments, but we pretend that they don't. Businesses in more corrupt countries often assume it must work the same everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU9377 5,136 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, TexasTiger said: Businesses in more corrupt countries often assume it must work the same everywhere. Exactly. It is like prospecting really. They are simply spending money to hedge their bets. It doesn't always pay off, but it has a value to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,464 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 "Europeans",,, how specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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