Can we quit praising the supposed excellence of the IDF?

[homersapien 11,453]

The inability of even Israeli hostages - much less innocent Palestinians - to safely surrender smacks of a "take no prisoners" attitude, which is unfortunate political image for Israel.

[icanthearyou 4,463]

1 hour ago, auburnatl1 said:

I agree. I’ve had Israelis brag to me that you literally couldn’t get a toy boat in from the med without their tech and security knowing it… Failures everywhere.

Now the question becomes,,, did the government of Israel know?

[auburnatl1 5,056]

1 hour ago, icanthearyou said:

Now the question becomes,,, did the government of Israel know?

Damn Ichy, I thought only the right did deep state conspiracies 

[icanthearyou 4,463]

1 hour ago, auburnatl1 said:

Damn Ichy, I thought only the right did deep state conspiracies 

What conspiracy? 

[Mikey 16,738]

3 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

Now the question becomes,,, did the government of Israel know?

Know what? Every detail of a street fight before it happened?

[icanthearyou 4,463]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/11/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-hamas-attack-timeline.html