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McCain nominee, Huck VP - is that the general consensus?

Nope. Romney is the likely VP nod. I'm sure he bowed out because of a backroom deal.

McCain/Romney makes a lot more sense than McCain/Huckabee, as much as the Hucksters on this board want to believe otherwise.

No matter what, unless he's caught sodomizing Girl Scouts between now and November, McCain carries the South against either Clinton or Obama. This business that McCain needs Huckabee in the South is a bunch of deluded nonsense, especially when Huckabee only won by a large margin in Arkansas, his home state. A 3-5% spread is hardly an overwhelming advantage.

Meanwhile, where Romney comes in handy is places where McCain isn't terribly strong, such as the Midwest and the upper plains states. Huckabee, on the other hand, scares the crap out of too many people, making him a serious liability on a national ticket. People will actually vote against McCain in November if Huckabee is riding the ticket.

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McCain nominee, Huck VP - is that the general consensus?

Nope. Romney is the likely VP nod. I'm sure he bowed out because of a backroom deal.

McCain/Romney makes a lot more sense than McCain/Huckabee, as much as the Hucksters on this board want to believe otherwise.

No matter what, unless he's caught sodomizing Girl Scouts between now and November, McCain carries the South against either Clinton or Obama. This business that McCain needs Huckabee in the South is a bunch of deluded nonsense, especially when Huckabee only won by a large margin in Arkansas, his home state. A 3-5% spread is hardly an overwhelming advantage.

Meanwhile, where Romney comes in handy is places where McCain isn't terribly strong, such as the Midwest and the upper plains states. Huckabee, on the other hand, scares the crap out of too many people, making him a serious liability on a national ticket. People will actually vote against McCain in November if Huckabee is riding the ticket.

I think Obama could challenge in some Red states...Hillary, no way.

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I see something different. McCain and Romney do not like each other at all. I could be wrong but I don't think there is going to be a McCain/Romney ticket, nor do I think there will be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. I see McCain going after a strong VP. Someone that will bring the party together and solidify all of the Republicans. Who that is? I am not sure of yet.

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I see something different. McCain and Romney do not like each other at all. I could be wrong but I don't think there is going to be a McCain/Romney ticket, nor do I think there will be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. I see McCain going after a strong VP. Someone that will bring the party together and solidify all of the Republicans. Who that is? I am not sure of yet.

Maybe you're right, but I really don't think so. They may not like each other that much, but its hard to refuse a Vice Presidency, especially when the Republican party needs some form of unity in order to have a prayer.

And RR, I don't think Obama has a prayer in the South. Not, mind you, because of his race. But because his political and economic views are so counter to the prevailing philosophies in the region. Yes, he's popular right now because the man is essentially the Anti-Clinton. Once his beliefs come under scrutiny in the General Election, however, people will drop him like a hot potato.

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How do you get Auburn fans not to vote for Obama?

Put a G in front of his name.

GObama.

ok really sorry for the joke.

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i don't think it really matters for the republican party. the fate of the party happened 2 years ago with a shift of power on capitol hill. combine that with bush, the nation is ready for a change and that will in effect elect a democratic president.

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I see something different. McCain and Romney do not like each other at all. I could be wrong but I don't think there is going to be a McCain/Romney ticket, nor do I think there will be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. I see McCain going after a strong VP. Someone that will bring the party together and solidify all of the Republicans. Who that is? I am not sure of yet.

I'm thinking Rudy.

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Rudy would make no sense. McCain is going to have to put someone on the ticket who is going to appeal to the far right.

That may be. But neither Obama or Hillary will have a problem appealing to the far left will they?

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I see something different. McCain and Romney do not like each other at all. I could be wrong but I don't think there is going to be a McCain/Romney ticket, nor do I think there will be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. I see McCain going after a strong VP. Someone that will bring the party together and solidify all of the Republicans. Who that is? I am not sure of yet.

McCain will choose either Trent Lott or John Warner.

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I see something different. McCain and Romney do not like each other at all. I could be wrong but I don't think there is going to be a McCain/Romney ticket, nor do I think there will be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. I see McCain going after a strong VP. Someone that will bring the party together and solidify all of the Republicans. Who that is? I am not sure of yet.

McCain will choose either Trent Lott or John Warner.

Nope. Romney is the likely VP nod. I'm sure he bowed out because of a backroom deal.

I have no idea who it will be, Rommey makes a lot more sense than either Trent Lott or John Warner.

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I see something different. McCain and Romney do not like each other at all. I could be wrong but I don't think there is going to be a McCain/Romney ticket, nor do I think there will be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. I see McCain going after a strong VP. Someone that will bring the party together and solidify all of the Republicans. Who that is? I am not sure of yet.

McCain will choose either Trent Lott or John Warner.

Nope. Lott and Warner make zero sense from the standpoint of electoral strategy. Whomever he chooses, it will not be a southerner. The South is a lock. McCain's from the Southwest. He needs somebody with appeal in the Midwest and the upper plains. Somebody who can really help matters in the critical swing states.

Rudy Giuliani proved a gigantic bust, a small man in search of a balcony. What's more, Romney serves to quell any restive paleoconservatives out there.

As far as Obama transcending political boundaries, I think you're living in fantasy land. Right now, the man is a symbol, albeit an attractive one. He signals a break with the Clintonistas, which is what everybody desperately wants. At the same time, he has the senate's most liberal voting record--The Democrats answer to Trent Lott, if you will. If the dust clears from the Democratic nomination and Hillary is sent into the Wilderness, Obama's governing philosophy and experience will come under intense scrutiny.

Further, I know that any number of you on this board can't abide McCain. I'm not wild about him myself. At the same time, he's the only guy who can save the Republican Party from itself. He has a record of independence from Bush, which will serve his cause well at the polls. He's sidestepped the most bitter partisan politics. Ultimately, he's his own man in the eyes of voters. Further, the Democrats aren't exactly on firm ground when it comes to Congress. If you really buy into opinion polls, the public approval rating of Congress is even further below Bush's rock-bottom numbers. This presents Republican strategists a start point for the fall elections, if they are savvy about how they craft the message.

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Anyone want to go on record about McCain's ability to beat Obama in a general election?

I think it to be very possible, all depends on how much the conservative base gets behind him and who he chooses as a VP. Obama will be tough competition, no matter who the GOP nomination is. I still think that he could beat Hillary hands down. Obama is very charismatic, I do believe that whoever picks up the moderate vote is the one who wins. True Republicans will vote the party ticket no matter what, McCain is liberal enough that he can nab some moderate votes. Obama will get the Democrats to vote for him b/c just like the Republicans he will get the party votes. But Obama is appealing to enough moderates (although his voting record should show otherwise) to nab some of the vote there too.

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Anyone want to go on record about McCain's ability to beat Obama in a general election?

A bit premature to say Obama is the guy don't ya think. :poke:

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If the election were next week, I don't like any Republican's chances against Obama. However, things can change in 8 months. I wouldn't be booking tickets for the inaugural ball just yet.

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Anyone want to go on record about McCain's ability to beat Obama in a general election?

McCain can beat Obama by way of the Independent Voters. Obama has done well with I's in the primaries, but Independents generally vote a little to the right more often than the left.

My problem with Obama is his cut and run on Iraq, and his typical left side, socialist state mentality. I, as a Veteran, cannot vote for anyone who wants to dishonor the sacrifice of my bothers and sisters who have fought hard to defend this nation from Islamic Terror. For me, attacking Iraq was the right thing to do. I did not like Rumsfeld and his stradegy, but I support action to invade. Saddam had allowed Al-Qeada, through dismiss, to operate training camps in the northern part of Iraq prior to our arrival there. That, along with years of ingnorance from Saddam, paved the way for war. I still have sand in a jar from the desert floor of Iraq, and I also have an activated chem strip from an attack against our unit while there in 1991. I didn't need a UN resolution or congressional approval to support that action.

I also disagree with arming citizens with social programs that take away their personal responsibility to themselves and rest it on government. This nation was founded on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.....but not through the governments allowance. I am for lower taxes and higher accountability. I disagree with national healthcare, because it does not work!!!! I agree we need reform of the current healthcare system, but if our system is so bad, why do those of power in other countries travel to the U.S. for care????? I fear that if government controlled healthcare for it's people, it would fail! Doctors would leave the profession, and very few people would aspire to take their place. This country thrives on capitalism, and national healthcare goes against capitalism.

That's my take in short.

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TIME Poll: Clinton More Beatable than Obama

Though the real election is nine months away, Sen. Barack Obama would fare slightly better than Sen. Hillary Clinton in a head to head match-up with Sen. John McCain if the general election were held today, a new TIME poll reveals.

Obama captured 48% of the vote in the theoretical match-up against McCain's 41%, the TIME poll reported, while Clinton and McCain would deadlock at 46% of the vote each. Put another way, McCain looks at the moment to have a narrowly better chance of beating the New York Senator than he does the relative newcomer from Illinois.

The difference, says Mark Schulman, CEO of Abt SRBI, which conducted the poll for TIME, is that "independents tilt toward McCain when he is matched up against Clinton But they tilt toward Obama when he is matched up against the Illinois Senator." Independents, added Schulman, "are a key battleground."

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/...1711123,00.html

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TIME Poll: Clinton More Beatable than Obama

Though the real election is nine months away, Sen. Barack Obama would fare slightly better than Sen. Hillary Clinton in a head to head match-up with Sen. John McCain if the general election were held today, a new TIME poll reveals.

Obama captured 48% of the vote in the theoretical match-up against McCain's 41%, the TIME poll reported, while Clinton and McCain would deadlock at 46% of the vote each. Put another way, McCain looks at the moment to have a narrowly better chance of beating the New York Senator than he does the relative newcomer from Illinois.

The difference, says Mark Schulman, CEO of Abt SRBI, which conducted the poll for TIME, is that "independents tilt toward McCain when he is matched up against Clinton But they tilt toward Obama when he is matched up against the Illinois Senator." Independents, added Schulman, "are a key battleground."

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/...1711123,00.html

Why are you trusting polls or Time Magazine? I think you're working a little too hard to convince here, RR.

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