Stump a Bammer...

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If you really want to make a bammer feel stupid the next 2 weeks... Ask them where the Elephant mascot came from???

*note: Do not accept the answers they're gonna try and give you about news articles stating "the players are so big, they look like elephants" bullcrap! That couldn't be farther from the truth!

The elephant goes back way before then. It dates back to the 20's... Bammer fans are just too stupid, they don't even know the heritage of their own mascot!

The answer: Rosenberger's Birmingham Trunk

In the 20's, Alabama was playing in the Rose Bowl (I think)... They were outfitted with luggage by Rosenberger's Trunk! And, the Rosenberger logo is??? You guessed it, a red elephant. All the players luggage had the red elephant on it. So from there, they just kind of took on the mascot of the red elephant.

I posted this here, to for y'all to screw with bammers, and basically make them feel "stupider" than they are!

Now you know the truth! Go gettem!!!

[Auburn Cat 34]

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[C'viewTiger 242]

I figured you were going to say just give them written instructions to anything and sit back and watch.

[The Freak 2,528]

I thought it would be to put them in a round room and tell them to pour the spike 80 in the corner.

[bikeriderga 134]

When I was working at one company in Birmingham, Auburn and Bama were both getting ready for the Iron Bowll (2004).

Our CIO thought it would be fun for each fan base to sing their fight song. The War Eagles were first and of course sang every work.

The Bammers started singing, Yeah Alabama, Crimson Tide and that was a far as they got. They not only know nothing about their mascot, they do not even know their fight song.

Us War Eagles were laughing our butts off! It was hillarious!

[WarTiger 3,901]

When I was working at one company in Birmingham, Auburn and Bama were both getting ready for the Iron Bowll (2004).

Our CIO thought it would be fun for each fan base to sing their fight song. The War Eagles TIGERS were first and of course sang every work.

The Bammers started singing, Yeah Alabama, Crimson Tide and that was a far as they got. They not only know nothing about their mascot, they do not even know their fight song.

Us War Eagles TIGERS were laughing our butts off! It was hillarious!

War Eagle should NEVER have an S at the end....We are TIGERS....Sorry but this just bugs the s*** out of me...

[cptau 169]

Actually they have a very confusing mascot history and it is worse....the official story is that a Georgia Tech graduate and player , Everett Strupper, a part time sports writer and insurance agent from Atlanta gave them that elephant mascot name!!!!

UAT refused to officially recognize the elephant mascot until 1979. I suspect they needed a real mascot due to Aubie appearing on the Auburn sidelines in 1979!!!!!

http://bryantmuseum....dir=traditions2

The story of how Alabama became associated with the "elephant" goes back to the 1930 season when Coach Wallace Wade had assembled a great football team.

On October 8, 1930, sports writer Everett Strupper of the Atlanta Journal wrote a story of the Alabama-Mississippi game he had witnessed in Tuscaloosa four days earlier. Strupper wrote, "That Alabama team of 1930 is a typical Wade machine, powerful, big, tough, fast, aggressive, well-schooled in fundamentals, and the best blocking team for this early in the season that I have ever seen. When those big brutes hit you I mean you go down and stay down, often for an additional two minutes.

"Coach Wade started his second team that was plenty big and they went right to their knitting scoring a touchdown in the first quarter against one of the best fighting small lines that I have seen. For Ole Miss was truly battling the big boys for every inch of ground.

"At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, 'Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,' and out stamped this Alabama varsity.

"It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size."

Strupper and other writers continued to refer to the Alabama linemen as "Red Elephants," the color referring to the crimson jerseys.

The 1930 team posted an overall 10-0 record. It shut out eight opponents and allowed only 13 points all season while scoring 217. The "Red Elephants" rolled over Washington State 24-0 in the Rose Bowl and were declared National Champions.

It is understandable for one to feel confused when catching a glimpse at the red elephant mascot at the University of Alabama. With a nickname like the “Crimson Tide,” one can’t help but conjure up images of a more aquatic, perhaps crustaceous creature as opposed to a 5-ton circus animal to represent the school’s athletic spirit.

So why does a red elephant prance up and down the Tide sidelines, revving up the Tuscaloosa faithful on game day? Well, no one can really say for sure. School historians verify that the red elephants have been associated with ‘Bama football since 1930, however, theories on the tradition’s origin have varied over the years.

One account of the mascot’s derivation began in 1930, when Rosenberger’s Birmingham Trunk Company, whose trademark is a red elephant standing on a trunk to signify the luggage’s durability, presented red elephant good luck charms to members of Rose Bowl-bound Alabama.

When the team, composed of predominantly large men, emerged from the train in Pasadena with red elephant trinkets suspending from their luggage, reporters were awed by the players’ mass and quickly seized upon the insignias on their baggage. Thus, the connection was born.

But perhaps the most widely recognized story of the red elephants’ origin at Bama is that of the field official and part-time sports columnist for the Atlanta Journal, Everett Strupper.

This adaptation also goes back to the 1930 season when Tide head coach Wallace Wade had assembled a powerhouse of a football team that would eventually post an overall 10-0 record, win the Rose Bowl and the National Championship.

On Oct. 8 of that year, Strupper wrote a story on the Alabama-Mississippi game he had witnessed in Tuscaloosa four days earlier. In that article, Strupper marveled over the sheer mass and power of the Bama juggernaut:

“That Alabama team of 1930 is a typical Wade machine, powerful, big, tough, fast, aggressive, well-schooled in fundamentals, and the best blocking team for this early in the season that I have ever seen. When those big brutes hit you I mean you go down and stay down, often for an additional two minutes.

“Coach Wade started his second team that was plenty big and they went right to their knitting scoring a touchdown in the first quarter against one of the best fighting small lines that I have seen. For Ole Miss was truly battling the big boys for every inch of ground.

“At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, ‘Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,’ and out stamped this Alabama varsity.

“It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size.”

Strupper and other Atlanta newspapers grasped onto the term, and continued to refer to the Alabama linemen as “red elephants,” the color referring to the crimson jerseys.

The 1930 team posted an overall 10-0 record. It shut out eight opponents and allowed only 13 points all season while scoring 217. The “Red Elephants” rolled over Washington State 24-0 in the Rose Bowl and were declared National Champions.

In following years, various fight song lyrics and fan chants featured the reference to the red elephants. While attempts to establish other team mascots such as the mythical god, Trident, and a giant wave crashed miserably, the mysterious elephant fetish somehow stuck firmly.

The school still refused, however, to acknowledge the elephant as an official mascot. In order to clear up the Bama faculty and staff’s curiosity over the origin of the ever-present pachyderm, director emeritus of alumni affairs at the time, Jefferson Coleman, wrote a memo to legendary head coach Paul “Bear” Bryant in 1977. In that memo, Coleman confirmed the authenticity of the “recently uncovered documentation” that supported the Strupper theory.

Hence, in 1979, the Alabama Student Government Association asked the University to legitimatize the elephant as an official school mascot and give him a name. Thus was born Big Al, the instantly recognizable sideline icon of the Crimson Tide.

Coleman has since maintained his obsession with the “Strupper Commission,” most recently in June of 1993, when he “uncovered” that Strupper was actually an “insurance agent-salesman” who only “wrote one story a week about the football game he had officiated in during the past Saturday.” Coleman also insists that it was a man named Borden Burr, who was holding the chain for Alabama, and not fans, who yelled, “Hold your horses, here comes the elephants.”

While the elephant lore that has surrounded Crimson Tide football has generated a little more controversy than it has deserved over the years, it has certainly provided Bama faithful with an amusing anecdote about the mysterious land creature that has symbolized a team with an aquatic moniker.

[Altima 200]

Actually they have a very confusing mascot history and it is worse....the official story is that a Georgia Tech graduate and player , Everett Strupper, a part time sports writer and insurance agent from Atlanta gave them that elephant mascot name!!!!

UAT refused to officially recognize the elephant mascot until 1979. I suspect they need a real mascot due to Aubie appearing on the Auburn sidelines in 1979!!!!!

http://bryantmuseum....dir=traditions2

The story of how Alabama became associated with the "elephant" goes back to the 1930 season when Coach Wallace Wade had assembled a great football team.

On October 8, 1930, sports writer Everett Strupper of the Atlanta Journal wrote a story of the Alabama-Mississippi game he had witnessed in Tuscaloosa four days earlier. Strupper wrote, "That Alabama team of 1930 is a typical Wade machine, powerful, big, tough, fast, aggressive, well-schooled in fundamentals, and the best blocking team for this early in the season that I have ever seen. When those big brutes hit you I mean you go down and stay down, often for an additional two minutes.

"Coach Wade started his second team that was plenty big and they went right to their knitting scoring a touchdown in the first quarter against one of the best fighting small lines that I have seen. For Ole Miss was truly battling the big boys for every inch of ground.

"At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, 'Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,' and out stamped this Alabama varsity.

"It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size."

Strupper and other writers continued to refer to the Alabama linemen as "Red Elephants," the color referring to the crimson jerseys.

The 1930 team posted an overall 10-0 record. It shut out eight opponents and allowed only 13 points all season while scoring 217. The "Red Elephants" rolled over Washington State 24-0 in the Rose Bowl and were declared National Champions.

It is understandable for one to feel confused when catching a glimpse at the red elephant mascot at the University of Alabama. With a nickname like the “Crimson Tide,” one can’t help but conjure up images of a more aquatic, perhaps crustaceous creature as opposed to a 5-ton circus animal to represent the school’s athletic spirit.

So why does a red elephant prance up and down the Tide sidelines, revving up the Tuscaloosa faithful on game day? Well, no one can really say for sure. School historians verify that the red elephants have been associated with ‘Bama football since 1930, however, theories on the tradition’s origin have varied over the years.

One account of the mascot’s derivation began in 1930, when Rosenberger’s Birmingham Trunk Company, whose trademark is a red elephant standing on a trunk to signify the luggage’s durability, presented red elephant good luck charms to members of Rose Bowl-bound Alabama.

When the team, composed of predominantly large men, emerged from the train in Pasadena with red elephant trinkets suspending from their luggage, reporters were awed by the players’ mass and quickly seized upon the insignias on their baggage. Thus, the connection was born.

But perhaps the most widely recognized story of the red elephants’ origin at Bama is that of the field official and part-time sports columnist for the Atlanta Journal, Everett Strupper.

This adaptation also goes back to the 1930 season when Tide head coach Wallace Wade had assembled a powerhouse of a football team that would eventually post an overall 10-0 record, win the Rose Bowl and the National Championship.

On Oct. 8 of that year, Strupper wrote a story on the Alabama-Mississippi game he had witnessed in Tuscaloosa four days earlier. In that article, Strupper marveled over the sheer mass and power of the Bama juggernaut:

“That Alabama team of 1930 is a typical Wade machine, powerful, big, tough, fast, aggressive, well-schooled in fundamentals, and the best blocking team for this early in the season that I have ever seen. When those big brutes hit you I mean you go down and stay down, often for an additional two minutes.

“Coach Wade started his second team that was plenty big and they went right to their knitting scoring a touchdown in the first quarter against one of the best fighting small lines that I have seen. For Ole Miss was truly battling the big boys for every inch of ground.

“At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, ‘Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,’ and out stamped this Alabama varsity.

“It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size.”

Strupper and other Atlanta newspapers grasped onto the term, and continued to refer to the Alabama linemen as “red elephants,” the color referring to the crimson jerseys.

The 1930 team posted an overall 10-0 record. It shut out eight opponents and allowed only 13 points all season while scoring 217. The “Red Elephants” rolled over Washington State 24-0 in the Rose Bowl and were declared National Champions.

In following years, various fight song lyrics and fan chants featured the reference to the red elephants. While attempts to establish other team mascots such as the mythical god, Trident, and a giant wave crashed miserably, the mysterious elephant fetish somehow stuck firmly.

The school still refused, however, to acknowledge the elephant as an official mascot. In order to clear up the Bama faculty and staff’s curiosity over the origin of the ever-present pachyderm, director emeritus of alumni affairs at the time, Jefferson Coleman, wrote a memo to legendary head coach Paul “Bear” Bryant in 1977. In that memo, Coleman confirmed the authenticity of the “recently uncovered documentation” that supported the Strupper theory.

Hence, in 1979, the Alabama Student Government Association asked the University to legitimatize the elephant as an official school mascot and give him a name. Thus was born Big Al, the instantly recognizable sideline icon of the Crimson Tide.

Coleman has since maintained his obsession with the “Strupper Commission,” most recently in June of 1993, when he “uncovered” that Strupper was actually an “insurance agent-salesman” who only “wrote one story a week about the football game he had officiated in during the past Saturday.” Coleman also insists that it was a man named Borden Burr, who was holding the chain for Alabama, and not fans, who yelled, “Hold your horses, here comes the elephants.”

While the elephant lore that has surrounded Crimson Tide football has generated a little more controversy than it has deserved over the years, it has certainly provided Bama faithful with an amusing anecdote about the mysterious land creature that has symbolized a team with an aquatic moniker.

This is exactly my point... bammers are so confused on their traditions/heritage, it's kind of sad. As I said before, all the stories about "elephant linemen" and the "big ole elephant boys" and "Ga Tech insurance salesmen" is pure bullsh%t! Rosenberger's is the only reason an elephant was ever introduced to the university of alabama. And yes, they had to get a cartoon mascot on the field to try to keep up with Auburn. Although, Aubie 'the cartoon tiger' has been around since the 50's... and made an appearance on the sideline in 79'.

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...An elephant with its trunk up signifies good luck....

So why does Big Al have a limp trunk?

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Ask them who their daddy is.