Malzahn the likely replacement

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

Everybody is caught up in the numbers that Gus put on smaller and weaker SEC teams. He was shut down consistently by the teams with better defenses and his continuous fast pace three and outs led to a tired defense. Take away his 2010 with Cam and in 2009, he was shut down and held to 14 points in a loss to Kentucky (Not your SEC powerhouse by the way) and was held to 16 points by a Bobby Petrino Arkansas team ( We all know Petrino doesn't do defense) and scored a late garbage touchdown to lose 44-23. We got killed by LSU that year because of quick three and outs and they wore us down. Gus did manage to keep us in a low scoring loss to a 8-5 Georgia that year and had to use gimmick plays to score on Alabama in a game in which defense played some dominate football in shutting down Ingram. In 2011, the defense became softer and weaker and the amount of three and outs led to more blowouts. Fact is, everybody loves his high powered offenses when playing against lesser talent but fail to see how it hurts when playing against better defenses. This is the SEC and the better athletes are mostly on defense. Sure he will give us a chance to consistently beat Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vanderbilt and other weak teams but his offense does not fit in the SEC to beat and compete with the best teams and to win championships. And you are not guaranteed a Cam or Johnny Football every year so why take a chance on him. Look at who is always the top of the SEC divisions. (Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Florida) They all have very good and physical defenses. We already have a soft defense and his offense only makes a defense softer. Even with Tuberville's players in 2008, (take away Iron Bowl blowout in which team was overmatched as Tubs was on way out) we played physical defense and until we get someone who pushes for physicalness on the defensive side of the ball, we will continue to get softer. Gus's offense is made for Conference USA and the Sun Belt in which he can put up numbers and play teams that don't have the best athletes on the field. We need an offensive that can be versatile in smash mouth and spreading the field with a lateral passing game. Gus is fast paced all the time and we can not afford him to put the defense in a hole with three and outs. If Gus is hired, I feel that we will be in the same position three or four years from now at the bottom of the SEC. Despite what many believe, Gus is not that good of a recruiter and can not maintain upper level talent. We do have some very good talent and need someone that can maintain. But if everyone just wants to beat the weaker teams and go toe to toe with Kentucky, Vandy, and the Miss schools, then Gus is your man. His offense is too gimmicky and flat when not working and he is not proven enough to be a big time SEC coach. Gus is a safe pick and every Auburn fan knows that this is not the time for the safe pick. We need a coach with a proven record at big time program to lead us back to winning championships.

Great post!

***Take the time to read***

So we should try to match up man for man with teams like bama, LSU and florida? no dice

^^^^Exactly^^^^ Texas A&M would beg to differ that the spread can't work in this league. So would Urban Meyer's 2 national championship teams. Saban wouldn't be complaining about the HUNH spread attacks if it didn't give his traditional teams fits.

A&M, FL and Gus's spread are all different types of spread. The spread can certainly work. I just don't care for Gus's spread. A&M has a decent defense to go along with the offense...they depended on it in the second half against Bama and we all know that FL had a good D when they won the NC with spread QB Tebow. Guess who the D coordinator was? Ummm....Charlie Strong. Can Gus field a decent D? Who knows...he may can but I tired of gambling on coaches who would be a major question mark. Gus would be more of a gamble than Chiz. How does that make sense? Take away 2010 and what do you have?

Fair enough. I don't think Gus would be as big of a gamble as Chizik. He actually has won as a head coach. Both in high school and now at Arky State. I don't know if he could field a solid defense and that is a concern. I also can see where his go go go offense hurts the defensive side. Here is one thing to consider also. As I look at Auburn 2010, the Florida teams and now aTm, hey all had once in a lifetime quarterbacks. Now are these quarterbacks just that good, or were they that good because of the system. If they are that good, then there is a real concern about the overall effectiveness of the spread in the SEC. If they are great because of the system, then maybe it's a different story.

I got ya. I just don't think that being a good HC and HC at somewhere like Arky State in no way qualifies for a HC position at Auburn. If it does...we are deep ish! Even with having the 2010 Gus has not proven he can develop a QB b/c he has not been anywhere long enough to show he can. Just doesn't make sense for JJ to take that big of a risk on Gus when his butt is clearly on the line. He knows that he has to get a bigger name than Gus that can without a doubt deliver a developed team and a team that has fundamentals on both sides. Now if we go after bigger names and they turn us down or a contract could not be reached...I'd be fine with settling for Gus but there should be 3 or 4 guys we would need to go through before getting to Gus.

[Gr8t2baub 0]

The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else?

Cam rushed for 1500 plus yards at Auburn. Why doesn't Carolina recognize his rushing talent, when he fails to rush for 1000 yards over 1600 games? Heavy sarcasm here...

4000 yards for Cam in AU's offense? Dude, are you on drugs? AU ran a run first offense...that was the philosophy of Chizik and Malzahn in 2010...and we were very effective, and Cam still passed for over 2500 yards. Let's try some logical coherence...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read...reminds me of AL.com.

Cam completed 9, 11, 7, 16,14,13,10,10,18,15,12,13,17,20 passes in his auburn career. That's what Malzahn got out of Cam in the passing game.

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

All of you who keep quoting the 30 posts prior to yours and arguing have RUINED this thread fyi. Dont worry, I will go somewhere else. Carry on.

P.s. if you would actually pay attention, you might realize that some actual good info has been scattered in between your arguments and you could actually have a meaningful discussion about an actual splash hire.....

We shall carry on, like boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.

[PoetTiger 1,899]

Lets all think back to four years ago when Jacobs said he would make a splash hire and that hire turned out to be Gene Chizik. Well, we all know how that turned out. If Gus is the guy who is hired it would hardly qualify as a splash.

Splash or not....That coach still led this team to its first title in 53 years...I could care less about winning press conferences...or splashes. I prefer coaches that win the conference you know SEC conference championships....

So you think it was a mistake to fire Chizik?

No it was not a mistake.........point splash hires still have to go out there and win games. At the time neither Richt,Tressel,Mack Brown,Pete Carroll,Jimmy Johnson,Bob Stoops, and Chip Kelly were considered splash hires.....you know the kind that say whoa, and I mean whoa in a good way...most did not know who Kelly was and

several of those were coordinators with zero HC experience...

[TastesLikeChicken 0]

Jacobs is kissing backside and throwing people under the bus, he's on thin ice, no way he risks his career for Malzahn. Malzahn is an unproven risk, which is what Chizik was and whats costing many their jobs. Jacobs is a piece of.....

[PoetTiger 1,899]

Talk to a few Bama fans if you can bear it. They seem to be rooting for Malzahn to get the job. What they don't want is someone like Petrino.

So what I have gathered from this thread is we should be determining our next coach based on the opinion of Updyke U fans and Arkansas not having CGM on there short list...yet Updyke U fans does not want AU to hire a coach they thoroughly dominated in his four years as HC. While CGM has beat him once, and was a few plays away from beating him in 2009? And the last time Arky was in Sec title game Gus was there?.....

[war eagle6 0]

Talk to a few Bama fans if you can bear it. They seem to be rooting for Malzahn to get the job. What they don't want is someone like Petrino.

that's what I have noticed since the possibility of him coaching AU. Not only r bama fans scared of the idea, the sabanite media guys r as well!!

[AU Counsel 64]

The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else?

Cam rushed for 1500 plus yards at Auburn. Why doesn't Carolina recognize his rushing talent, when he fails to rush for 1000 yards over 1600 games? Heavy sarcasm here...

4000 yards for Cam in AU's offense? Dude, are you on drugs? AU ran a run first offense...that was the philosophy of Chizik and Malzahn in 2010...and we were very effective, and Cam still passed for over 2500 yards. Let's try some logical coherence...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read...reminds me of AL.com.

Cam completed 9, 11, 7, 16,14,13,10,10,18,15,12,13,17,20 passes in his auburn career. That's what Malzahn got out of Cam in the passing game.

Look at his yardage...his touchdowns...he had the best season of any QB in AU history, and one of the best running seasons ever. Why am I debating someone who has no grasp of basic logic?

[Gr8t2baub 0]

Talk to a few Bama fans if you can bear it. They seem to be rooting for Malzahn to get the job. What they don't want is someone like Petrino.

So what I have gathered from this thread is we should be determining our next coach based on the opinion of Updyke U fans and Arkansas not having CGM on there short list...

No. We should hire the best coach available. Malzahn isn't him.

[PapaWill 0]

#1 Malzahn takes his undermanned team to Oregon and scores 34 points, and if you look at Oregon's resume you would see that Arkansas State looks like they could compete with several teams in the top 20. You could also see where Arkansas State loses also to Nebraska and a Western Kentucky team that (if you watched play Alabama-you would see they were definitely not embarrased) Western Kentucky is a nice team this year.....

You would also see where they kicked La Monroe..........a team that we know very well.

I cannot know 100% that any new coach will be a big hit here..... and that includes the almighty Saban who has not won everywhere he has been.

Guys, timing is everything. Coach Malzahn knows offense like Kelly does at Oregon. If he is smart enough (and has the resources) to bring in a top notch defensive coach then I am feeling pretty good. I like him for an easy transition back as he will know many of the players and I would like to see him run his offense without anyone slowing him down (and with our players).

[AU Counsel 64]

Who is the best coach available?

[Gr8t2baub 0]

The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else?

Cam rushed for 1500 plus yards at Auburn. Why doesn't Carolina recognize his rushing talent, when he fails to rush for 1000 yards over 1600 games? Heavy sarcasm here...

4000 yards for Cam in AU's offense? Dude, are you on drugs? AU ran a run first offense...that was the philosophy of Chizik and Malzahn in 2010...and we were very effective, and Cam still passed for over 2500 yards. Let's try some logical coherence...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read...reminds me of AL.com.

Cam completed 9, 11, 7, 16,14,13,10,10,18,15,12,13,17,20 passes in his auburn career. That's what Malzahn got out of Cam in the passing game.

Look at his yardage...his touchdowns...he had the best season of any QB in AU history, and one of the best running seasons ever. Why am I debating someone who has no grasp of basic logic?

Apparently because the bastions of intellect on the al.com forums ran you off.

[mdp5150 167]

Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC.

Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another

Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC.

Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another

Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue.

Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then

I totally agree with your response to some of these clowns. First off on this message board if you have never played football you should not be allowed to voice your opinion, because odds are you don't have a clue. Second, tell me why Gus Malzahn would be a bad coaching hire give me some legitimate, logical answers. I can give you a ton of answers why he is a really good coach. We would never have tasted a National Championship without Gus Malzahn he overcame the most horrible defenses in the history of Auburn. He had to deal with someone meddling with his playbook because boss said he wanted to protect his defense. I am dissapointed with thirty percent of these posts because the rationalizations sound like you are high on meth or you don't have a clue.

Chizik with Gus 30-10

Chizik without 9- 26 do you see a correlation? do you think it was just happenstance?

Gus Malzahn at Arkansas brought them to the highest levels there were when he arrived, do any of you remember the beginning of the wildcat when we got plastered by Darren McFadden, and Felix Jones who beat the crap out of us and fans were leaving at half time? I could be wrong but didn't Arkansas go to the SEC championship when he was at Arkansas in 2002? Huston Nutt said hey Gus, hit the road and he was fired soon after.

He then went to Tulsa and they had the best records there that they have ever had, and he made Todd Grahm look like a peach, who is now at Maryland and its a complete trainwreck. He was then hired at Auburn and started lighting up the scoreboards in the SEC with the worst defenses Auburn has had in its history. Gene Chizik, as we know, is fired one year after he is gone.

I ask you do you see a logical chain forming here? Two coaches fired because the team went into an offensive tailspin, and one got out because he knew it was his best opportunity.

Gus Malzahn even with Chris Todd broke Auburn's all time td passing record with a guy that everyone wanted to run out of town! Gus has never worked with one single qb for more than one year and they have been very successful. Malzahn brought an offense that shattered records at Auburn, and with a lack of defense he managed to go 8-5 with Barret Trotter and Clint Mosely. Though, he may not have head coaching experience he has a proven track record every where he has made a coaching stop, people pay to learn how to run his offenses even Hugh Freeze runs his offense.. He may be a high school coach with experience at several colleges, but he is moving on up fast, and you want to miss making the right hire because you are ignorant? If you aren't ignorant then explain why in every one of your posts why he is not a good hire, and why your coach is? I don't want opinions I want facts, and until you have facts please stop posting you make it unbearable shifting through the excrement to be able to get to a post with actual good logical arguments.

I'll give you a few reasons why.

1. 3-6 versus the big rivals that Auburn has. The only 3 wins were courtesy of Superman.

2. In 3 years who do we have to show for our QB? A: Our most glaring weakness. JW was a nice surprise but I still have reservations.

3. What about WR development? The OC has control over every aspect so we cannot just blame TT for our weakness at that position.

4. Not really impressed with his recruitment at the RB position either. The point has already been made that he does not like to recruit.

5. Because we had a great offense under Cam & A&M has a great offense under Jonny Football and Meyer had great offenses under Tebow does not mean we can produce that. See point number 2.

6. Final and most important point. If you plan to win SEC crowns against Muschamp, Miles, Saban, Spurrier, Richt, Sumlin with Malzahn then we are only fooling ourselves.

[Gr8t2baub 0]

#1 Malzahn takes his undermanned team to Oregon and scores 34 points, and if you look at Oregon's resume you would see that Arkansas State looks like they could compete with several teams in the top 20. You could also see where Arkansas State loses also to Nebraska and a Western Kentucky team that (if you watched play Alabama-you would see they were definitely not embarrased) Western Kentucky is a nice team this year.....

You would also see where they kicked La Monroe..........a team that we know very well.

I cannot know 100% that any new coach will be a big hit here..... and that includes the almighty Saban who has not won everywhere he has been.

Guys, timing is everything. Coach Malzahn knows offense like Kelly does at Oregon. If he is smart enough (and has the resources) to bring in a top notch defensive coach then I am feeling pretty good. I like him for an easy transition back as he will know many of the players and I would like to see him run his offense without anyone slowing him down (and with our players).

Hugh Freeze has a better record than Malzahn at ark st.

[Fairleyunderappreciated 0]

The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else?

Cam rushed for 1500 plus yards at Auburn. Why doesn't Carolina recognize his rushing talent, when he fails to rush for 1000 yards over 1600 games? Heavy sarcasm here...

4000 yards for Cam in AU's offense? Dude, are you on drugs? AU ran a run first offense...that was the philosophy of Chizik and Malzahn in 2010...and we were very effective, and Cam still passed for over 2500 yards. Let's try some logical coherence...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read...reminds me of AL.com.

Cam completed 9, 11, 7, 16,14,13,10,10,18,15,12,13,17,20 passes in his auburn career. That's what Malzahn got out of Cam in the passing game.

And AU won a BCSNC. Whats your point? You do realize this was his one and only season with Cam, right?

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

Jacobs is kissing backside and throwing people under the bus, he's on thin ice, no way he risks his career for Malzahn. Malzahn is an unproven risk, which is what Chizik was and whats costing many their jobs. Jacobs is a piece of.....

That's my theory too....

[Fairleyunderappreciated 0]

The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else?

Cam rushed for 1500 plus yards at Auburn. Why doesn't Carolina recognize his rushing talent, when he fails to rush for 1000 yards over 1600 games? Heavy sarcasm here...

4000 yards for Cam in AU's offense? Dude, are you on drugs? AU ran a run first offense...that was the philosophy of Chizik and Malzahn in 2010...and we were very effective, and Cam still passed for over 2500 yards. Let's try some logical coherence...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read...reminds me of AL.com.

Cam completed 9, 11, 7, 16,14,13,10,10,18,15,12,13,17,20 passes in his auburn career. That's what Malzahn got out of Cam in the passing game.

Look at his yardage...his touchdowns...he had the best season of any QB in AU history, and one of the best running seasons ever. Why am I debating someone who has no grasp of basic logic?

Apparently because the bastions of intellect on the al.com forums ran you off.

I laughed.

[Raven_tiger 5]

Why does the Jeff Fisher talk continue? Why would we hire a 54 year old, on the down side of a career NFL coach with no college coaching experience? Fisher is 4-6 this year with the Rams. What am I missing?

[AEAugirl 9,633]

Malzahn is a GAMBLE, let's not forget that.

He is winning right now with a great team that Freeze left him.

Do we really want to roll that dice again with a great coordinator, hoping he transitions into a great head coach?

This is the same crap everyone said about Chizik....best defense ever, NC at Texas, undefeated at AU, blah blah blah.

We don't know what Malzahn as a HC would be like.

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC.

Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another

Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC.

Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another

Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue.

Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then

I totally agree with your response to some of these clowns. First off on this message board if you have never played football you should not be allowed to voice your opinion, because odds are you don't have a clue. Second, tell me why Gus Malzahn would be a bad coaching hire give me some legitimate, logical answers. I can give you a ton of answers why he is a really good coach. We would never have tasted a National Championship without Gus Malzahn he overcame the most horrible defenses in the history of Auburn. He had to deal with someone meddling with his playbook because boss said he wanted to protect his defense. I am dissapointed with thirty percent of these posts because the rationalizations sound like you are high on meth or you don't have a clue.

Chizik with Gus 30-10

Chizik without 9- 26 do you see a correlation? do you think it was just happenstance?

Gus Malzahn at Arkansas brought them to the highest levels there were when he arrived, do any of you remember the beginning of the wildcat when we got plastered by Darren McFadden, and Felix Jones who beat the crap out of us and fans were leaving at half time? I could be wrong but didn't Arkansas go to the SEC championship when he was at Arkansas in 2002? Huston Nutt said hey Gus, hit the road and he was fired soon after.

He then went to Tulsa and they had the best records there that they have ever had, and he made Todd Grahm look like a peach, who is now at Maryland and its a complete trainwreck. He was then hired at Auburn and started lighting up the scoreboards in the SEC with the worst defenses Auburn has had in its history. Gene Chizik, as we know, is fired one year after he is gone.

I ask you do you see a logical chain forming here? Two coaches fired because the team went into an offensive tailspin, and one got out because he knew it was his best opportunity.

Gus Malzahn even with Chris Todd broke Auburn's all time td passing record with a guy that everyone wanted to run out of town! Gus has never worked with one single qb for more than one year and they have been very successful. Malzahn brought an offense that shattered records at Auburn, and with a lack of defense he managed to go 8-5 with Barret Trotter and Clint Mosely. Though, he may not have head coaching experience he has a proven track record every where he has made a coaching stop, people pay to learn how to run his offenses even Hugh Freeze runs his offense.. He may be a high school coach with experience at several colleges, but he is moving on up fast, and you want to miss making the right hire because you are ignorant? If you aren't ignorant then explain why in every one of your posts why he is not a good hire, and why your coach is? I don't want opinions I want facts, and until you have facts please stop posting you make it unbearable shifting through the excrement to be able to get to a post with actual good logical arguments.

I'll give you a few reasons why.

1. 3-6 versus the big rivals that Auburn has. The only 3 wins were courtesy of Superman.

2. In 3 years who do we have to show for our QB? A: Our most glaring weakness. JW was a nice surprise but I still have reservations.

3. What about WR development? The OC has control over every aspect so we cannot just blame TT for our weakness at that position.

4. Not really impressed with his recruitment at the RB position either. The point has already been made that he does not like to recruit.

5. Because we had a great offense under Cam & A&M has a great offense under Jonny Football and Meyer had great offenses under Tebow does not mean we can produce that. See point number 2.

6. Final and most important point. If you plan to win SEC crowns against Muschamp, Miles, Saban, Spurrier, Richt, Sumlin with Malzahn then we are only fooling ourselves.

NICE!

[AU Counsel 64]

The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else?

Cam rushed for 1500 plus yards at Auburn. Why doesn't Carolina recognize his rushing talent, when he fails to rush for 1000 yards over 1600 games? Heavy sarcasm here...

4000 yards for Cam in AU's offense? Dude, are you on drugs? AU ran a run first offense...that was the philosophy of Chizik and Malzahn in 2010...and we were very effective, and Cam still passed for over 2500 yards. Let's try some logical coherence...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read...reminds me of AL.com.

Cam completed 9, 11, 7, 16,14,13,10,10,18,15,12,13,17,20 passes in his auburn career. That's what Malzahn got out of Cam in the passing game.

And AU won a BCSNC. Whats your point? You do realize this was his one and only season with Cam, right?

No point there. Raw completion stats illustrate little...throw in touchdown passes, interceptions, passing yards, completion rate...you know, some applied statistics, and then you have something that illustrates a coherent thought.

Can't say I've heard anyone else claim that Cam the Heisman winner was underutilized as a passer in 2010.

[SIR ISAAC 46]

Franklin getting a lot of buzz, but the deal is likely all but done so who knows....not me.

[Raven_tiger 5]

#1 Malzahn takes his undermanned team to Oregon and scores 34 points, and if you look at Oregon's resume you would see that Arkansas State looks like they could compete with several teams in the top 20. You could also see where Arkansas State loses also to Nebraska and a Western Kentucky team that (if you watched play Alabama-you would see they were definitely not embarrased) Western Kentucky is a nice team this year.....

You would also see where they kicked La Monroe..........a team that we know very well.

I cannot know 100% that any new coach will be a big hit here..... and that includes the almighty Saban who has not won everywhere he has been.

Guys, timing is everything. Coach Malzahn knows offense like Kelly does at Oregon. If he is smart enough (and has the resources) to bring in a top notch defensive coach then I am feeling pretty good. I like him for an easy transition back as he will know many of the players and I would like to see him run his offense without anyone slowing him down (and with our players).

Why do people think Gus is a brilliant OC? His team is ranked #18 in total offense, and #27 in scoring offense. Quite a few OC/HC ahead of him. Good maybe, great meh. Gus v Saban...think about that.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1027/p1

[TastesLikeChicken 0]

GM= risky. BP= proven. JJ bet on risk and lost and has caused many to lose their jobs. BP, the proven, will be our coach.

[Gr8t2baub 0]

Malzahn is a GAMBLE, let's not forget that.

He is winning right now with a great team that Freeze left him.

Do we really want to roll that dice again with a great coordinator, hoping he transitions into a great head coach?

This is the same crap everyone said about Chizik....best defense ever, NC at Texas, undefeated at AU, blah blah blah.

We don't know what Malzahn as a HC would be like.

Absolutely. If you give a guy with one year of head coaching experience this team in this division we will be having a similar discussion in 2-3 years.