WarEagle1983 2,185 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Everybody is caught up in the numbers that Gus put on smaller and weaker SEC teams. He was shut down consistently by the teams with better defenses and his continuous fast pace three and outs led to a tired defense. Take away his 2010 with Cam and in 2009, he was shut down and held to 14 points in a loss to Kentucky (Not your SEC powerhouse by the way) and was held to 16 points by a Bobby Petrino Arkansas team ( We all know Petrino doesn't do defense) and scored a late garbage touchdown to lose 44-23. We got killed by LSU that year because of quick three and outs and they wore us down. Gus did manage to keep us in a low scoring loss to a 8-5 Georgia that year and had to use gimmick plays to score on Alabama in a game in which defense played some dominate football in shutting down Ingram. In 2011, the defense became softer and weaker and the amount of three and outs led to more blowouts. Fact is, everybody loves his high powered offenses when playing against lesser talent but fail to see how it hurts when playing against better defenses. This is the SEC and the better athletes are mostly on defense. Sure he will give us a chance to consistently beat Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vanderbilt and other weak teams but his offense does not fit in the SEC to beat and compete with the best teams and to win championships. And you are not guaranteed a Cam or Johnny Football every year so why take a chance on him. Look at who is always the top of the SEC divisions. (Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Florida) They all have very good and physical defenses. We already have a soft defense and his offense only makes a defense softer. Even with Tuberville's players in 2008, (take away Iron Bowl blowout in which team was overmatched as Tubs was on way out) we played physical defense and until we get someone who pushes for physicalness on the defensive side of the ball, we will continue to get softer. Gus's offense is made for Conference USA and the Sun Belt in which he can put up numbers and play teams that don't have the best athletes on the field. We need an offensive that can be versatile in smash mouth and spreading the field with a lateral passing game. Gus is fast paced all the time and we can not afford him to put the defense in a hole with three and outs. If Gus is hired, I feel that we will be in the same position three or four years from now at the bottom of the SEC. Despite what many believe, Gus is not that good of a recruiter and can not maintain upper level talent. We do have some very good talent and need someone that can maintain. But if everyone just wants to beat the weaker teams and go toe to toe with Kentucky, Vandy, and the Miss schools, then Gus is your man. His offense is too gimmicky and flat when not working and he is not proven enough to be a big time SEC coach. Gus is a safe pick and every Auburn fan knows that this is not the time for the safe pick. We need a coach with a proven record at big time program to lead us back to winning championships. Great post! ***Take the time to read*** So we should try to match up man for man with teams like bama, LSU and florida? no dice ^^^^Exactly^^^^ Texas A&M would beg to differ that the spread can't work in this league. So would Urban Meyer's 2 national championship teams. Saban wouldn't be complaining about the HUNH spread attacks if it didn't give his traditional teams fits. A&M, FL and Gus's spread are all different types of spread. The spread can certainly work. I just don't care for Gus's spread. A&M has a decent defense to go along with the offense...they depended on it in the second half against Bama and we all know that FL had a good D when they won the NC with spread QB Tebow. Guess who the D coordinator was? Ummm....Charlie Strong. Can Gus field a decent D? Who knows...he may can but I tired of gambling on coaches who would be a major question mark. Gus would be more of a gamble than Chiz. How does that make sense? Take away 2010 and what do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle1983 2,185 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 He used gimmick plays to almost beat Bama in 09 but remember the defense that put in a monumental effort in shutting down their run game. He had Cam in 2010 in which they made plays in second half for comeback. If you remember we opened up with about 4 consecutive three and outs which led to their 24 points. I will give you that year but look at 2011 when we got blown out because Saban shut his gimmick offense down. If Arkansas doesn't hire him and that is his dream job, then why in the hell would we hire him? That's what i keep asking but no one is yet to get an answer. Guess logic doesn't count for anything these days. lol. Because Arkansas is stupid or either they know Gus wants no part of them after they treated him like crap when he was there with Nutt.....We should not allow Arkansas to determine who our next HC should be....smh It's b/c they are smarter than Auburn's Admin if Gus is truely indeed on our top coaching list. Arky is very smart not to have in on the list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Is Malzahn the best AU can do? Can he compete for the SEC West title every year? Take out 2010 and he was part of a 16-10 record that lost to Arkansas, LSU, UGA and Bama... Lets take out 2009 and 2011 and he is undefeated...see how that works, you can't take out 2010....geesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AubTigers 25 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 He used gimmick plays to almost beat Bama in 09 but remember the defense that put in a monumental effort in shutting down their run game. He had Cam in 2010 in which they made plays in second half for comeback. If you remember we opened up with about 4 consecutive three and outs which led to their 24 points. I will give you that year but look at 2011 when we got blown out because Saban shut his gimmick offense down. If Arkansas doesn't hire him and that is his dream job, then why in the hell would we hire him? That's what i keep asking but no one is yet to get an answer. Guess logic doesn't count for anything these days. lol. Because Arkansas is stupid or either they know Gus wants no part of them after they treated him like crap when he was there with Nutt.....We should not allow Arkansas to determine who our next HC should be....smh Gus isn't even a blip on Arkansas radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinSider 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue. Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then Tell me one thing I have said that is incorrect. I find it amusing that you thought Gus recruited Cam. That speaks volumes. Bottom line - recruiting is half the game these days, and Gus is well known not to like recruiting. Accordingly, he will not likely be AU's next HC. Can you prove that Gus does not like to recruit....I mean bonafide proof? I'm not spouting anything that isn't well documented in mainstream media. Just check al.com's archives. I'm not claiming this is inside info. Additionally, let's not forget Gus' wife - she is too much of a loose canon. If you want proof of that, just go to YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle1983 2,185 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue. Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then I totally agree with your response to some of these clowns. First off on this message board if you have never played football you should not be allowed to voice your opinion, because odds are you don't have a clue. Second, tell me why Gus Malzahn would be a bad coaching hire give me some legitimate, logical answers. I can give you a ton of answers why he is a really good coach. We would never have tasted a National Championship without Gus Malzahn he overcame the most horrible defenses in the history of Auburn. He had to deal with someone meddling with his playbook because boss said he wanted to protect his defense. I am dissapointed with thirty percent of these posts because the rationalizations sound like you are high on meth or you don't have a clue. Chizik with Gus 30-10 Chizik without 9- 26 do you see a correlation? do you think it was just happenstance? Gus Malzahn at Arkansas brought them to the highest levels there were when he arrived, do any of you remember the beginning of the wildcat when we got plastered by Darren McFadden, and Felix Jones who beat the crap out of us and fans were leaving at half time? I could be wrong but didn't Arkansas go to the SEC championship when he was at Arkansas in 2002? Huston Nutt said hey Gus, hit the road and he was fired soon after. He then went to Tulsa and they had the best records there that they have ever had, and he made Todd Grahm look like a peach, who is now at Maryland and its a complete trainwreck. He was then hired at Auburn and started lighting up the scoreboards in the SEC with the worst defenses Auburn has had in its history. Gene Chizik, as we know, is fired one year after he is gone. I ask you do you see a logical chain forming here? Two coaches fired because the team went into an offensive tailspin, and one got out because he knew it was his best opportunity. Gus Malzahn even with Chris Todd broke Auburn's all time td passing record with a guy that everyone wanted to run out of town! Gus has never worked with one single qb for more than one year and they have been very successful. Malzahn brought an offense that shattered records at Auburn, and with a lack of defense he managed to go 8-5 with Barret Trotter and Clint Mosely. Though, he may not have head coaching experience he has a proven track record every where he has made a coaching stop, people pay to learn how to run his offenses even Hugh Freeze runs his offense.. He may be a high school coach with experience at several colleges, but he is moving on up fast, and you want to miss making the right hire because you are ignorant? If you aren't ignorant then explain why in every one of your posts why he is not a good hire, and why your coach is? I don't want opinions I want facts, and until you have facts please stop posting you make it unbearable shifting through the excrement to be able to get to a post with actual good logical arguments. That's laughable. If Gus is so great why have no other top schools gone after him? Take the blinders off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhawkeagle 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue. Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then I totally agree with your response to some of these clowns. First off on this message board if you have never played football you should not be allowed to voice your opinion, because odds are you don't have a clue. Second, tell me why Gus Malzahn would be a bad coaching hire give me some legitimate, logical answers. I can give you a ton of answers why he is a really good coach. We would never have tasted a National Championship without Gus Malzahn he overcame the most horrible defenses in the history of Auburn. He had to deal with someone meddling with his playbook because boss said he wanted to protect his defense. I am dissapointed with thirty percent of these posts because the rationalizations sound like you are high on meth or you don't have a clue. Chizik with Gus 30-10 Chizik without 9- 26 do you see a correlation? do you think it was just happenstance? Gus Malzahn at Arkansas brought them to the highest levels there were when he arrived, do any of you remember the beginning of the wildcat when we got plastered by Darren McFadden, and Felix Jones who beat the crap out of us and fans were leaving at half time? I could be wrong but didn't Arkansas go to the SEC championship when he was at Arkansas in 2002? Huston Nutt said hey Gus, hit the road and he was fired soon after. He then went to Tulsa and they had the best records there that they have ever had, and he made Todd Grahm look like a peach, who is now at Maryland and its a complete trainwreck. He was then hired at Auburn and started lighting up the scoreboards in the SEC with the worst defenses Auburn has had in its history. Gene Chizik, as we know, is fired one year after he is gone. I ask you do you see a logical chain forming here? Two coaches fired because the team went into an offensive tailspin, and one got out because he knew it was his best opportunity. Gus Malzahn even with Chris Todd broke Auburn's all time td passing record with a guy that everyone wanted to run out of town! Gus has never worked with one single qb for more than one year and they have been very successful. Malzahn brought an offense that shattered records at Auburn, and with a lack of defense he managed to go 8-5 with Barret Trotter and Clint Mosely. Though, he may not have head coaching experience he has a proven track record every where he has made a coaching stop, people pay to learn how to run his offenses even Hugh Freeze runs his offense.. He may be a high school coach with experience at several colleges, but he is moving on up fast, and you want to miss making the right hire because you are ignorant? If you aren't ignorant then explain why in every one of your posts why he is not a good hire, and why your coach is? I don't want opinions I want facts, and until you have facts please stop posting you make it unbearable shifting through the excrement to be able to get to a post with actual good logical arguments. Please stop! You're actually making sense. I can't take it anymore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhawkeagle 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue. Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then I totally agree with your response to some of these clowns. First off on this message board if you have never played football you should not be allowed to voice your opinion, because odds are you don't have a clue. Second, tell me why Gus Malzahn would be a bad coaching hire give me some legitimate, logical answers. I can give you a ton of answers why he is a really good coach. We would never have tasted a National Championship without Gus Malzahn he overcame the most horrible defenses in the history of Auburn. He had to deal with someone meddling with his playbook because boss said he wanted to protect his defense. I am dissapointed with thirty percent of these posts because the rationalizations sound like you are high on meth or you don't have a clue. Chizik with Gus 30-10 Chizik without 9- 26 do you see a correlation? do you think it was just happenstance? Gus Malzahn at Arkansas brought them to the highest levels there were when he arrived, do any of you remember the beginning of the wildcat when we got plastered by Darren McFadden, and Felix Jones who beat the crap out of us and fans were leaving at half time? I could be wrong but didn't Arkansas go to the SEC championship when he was at Arkansas in 2002? Huston Nutt said hey Gus, hit the road and he was fired soon after. He then went to Tulsa and they had the best records there that they have ever had, and he made Todd Grahm look like a peach, who is now at Maryland and its a complete trainwreck. He was then hired at Auburn and started lighting up the scoreboards in the SEC with the worst defenses Auburn has had in its history. Gene Chizik, as we know, is fired one year after he is gone. I ask you do you see a logical chain forming here? Two coaches fired because the team went into an offensive tailspin, and one got out because he knew it was his best opportunity. Gus Malzahn even with Chris Todd broke Auburn's all time td passing record with a guy that everyone wanted to run out of town! Gus has never worked with one single qb for more than one year and they have been very successful. Malzahn brought an offense that shattered records at Auburn, and with a lack of defense he managed to go 8-5 with Barret Trotter and Clint Mosely. Though, he may not have head coaching experience he has a proven track record every where he has made a coaching stop, people pay to learn how to run his offenses even Hugh Freeze runs his offense.. He may be a high school coach with experience at several colleges, but he is moving on up fast, and you want to miss making the right hire because you are ignorant? If you aren't ignorant then explain why in every one of your posts why he is not a good hire, and why your coach is? I don't want opinions I want facts, and until you have facts please stop posting you make it unbearable shifting through the excrement to be able to get to a post with actual good logical arguments. That's laughable. If Gus is so great why have no other top schools gone after him? Take the blinders off. By this logic there are no good coaches available and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else? After the Season CAM went to work with a QB coach George Whitfield Jr...oh by the way the same one that Johnny Football worked with this summer....so it wasn't Gus that helped him out to become a better thrower and work on his footwork. here is a link that I found....http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7821231/nfl-andrew-luck-cam-newton-swear-qb-guru-george-whitfield-jr-espn-magazine I think Cam would differ with your opinion, Gus play calling allowed Cam to become a household name and helped him put up the stats to win thr Heisman and be considered for the first pick in draft. In addition he recommended Cam continue his fundamental development to prolong his career in the league. I swear some of you act like the stork dropped Cam off and Gus was out playing parcheezy while Cam basically called a the plays and won the game 1 against 11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle1983 2,185 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 He used gimmick plays to almost beat Bama in 09 but remember the defense that put in a monumental effort in shutting down their run game. He had Cam in 2010 in which they made plays in second half for comeback. If you remember we opened up with about 4 consecutive three and outs which led to their 24 points. I will give you that year but look at 2011 when we got blown out because Saban shut his gimmick offense down. If Arkansas doesn't hire him and that is his dream job, then why in the hell would we hire him? That's what i keep asking but no one is yet to get an answer. Guess logic doesn't count for anything these days. lol. Because Arkansas is stupid or either they know Gus wants no part of them after they treated him like crap when he was there with Nutt.....We should not allow Arkansas to determine who our next HC should be....smh Gus isn't even a blip on Arkansas radar. He shouldn't be on ours either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan 1,240 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Lets all think back to four years ago when Jacobs said he would make a splash hire and that hire turned out to be Gene Chizik. Well, we all know how that turned out. If Gus is the guy who is hired it would hardly qualify as a splash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 He used gimmick plays to almost beat Bama in 09 but remember the defense that put in a monumental effort in shutting down their run game. He had Cam in 2010 in which they made plays in second half for comeback. If you remember we opened up with about 4 consecutive three and outs which led to their 24 points. I will give you that year but look at 2011 when we got blown out because Saban shut his gimmick offense down. If Arkansas doesn't hire him and that is his dream job, then why in the hell would we hire him? That's what i keep asking but no one is yet to get an answer. Guess logic doesn't count for anything these days. lol. Because Arkansas is stupid or either they know Gus wants no part of them after they treated him like crap when he was there with Nutt.....We should not allow Arkansas to determine who our next HC should be....smh It's b/c they are smarter than Auburn's Admin if Gus is truely indeed on our top coaching list. Arky is very smart not to have in on the list! Did Gus take your lunch money or steal your girlfriend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnall01 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Everybody is caught up in the numbers that Gus put on smaller and weaker SEC teams. He was shut down consistently by the teams with better defenses and his continuous fast pace three and outs led to a tired defense. Take away his 2010 with Cam and in 2009, he was shut down and held to 14 points in a loss to Kentucky (Not your SEC powerhouse by the way) and was held to 16 points by a Bobby Petrino Arkansas team ( We all know Petrino doesn't do defense) and scored a late garbage touchdown to lose 44-23. We got killed by LSU that year because of quick three and outs and they wore us down. Gus did manage to keep us in a low scoring loss to a 8-5 Georgia that year and had to use gimmick plays to score on Alabama in a game in which defense played some dominate football in shutting down Ingram. In 2011, the defense became softer and weaker and the amount of three and outs led to more blowouts. Fact is, everybody loves his high powered offenses when playing against lesser talent but fail to see how it hurts when playing against better defenses. This is the SEC and the better athletes are mostly on defense. Sure he will give us a chance to consistently beat Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vanderbilt and other weak teams but his offense does not fit in the SEC to beat and compete with the best teams and to win championships. And you are not guaranteed a Cam or Johnny Football every year so why take a chance on him. Look at who is always the top of the SEC divisions. (Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Florida) They all have very good and physical defenses. We already have a soft defense and his offense only makes a defense softer. Even with Tuberville's players in 2008, (take away Iron Bowl blowout in which team was overmatched as Tubs was on way out) we played physical defense and until we get someone who pushes for physicalness on the defensive side of the ball, we will continue to get softer. Gus's offense is made for Conference USA and the Sun Belt in which he can put up numbers and play teams that don't have the best athletes on the field. We need an offensive that can be versatile in smash mouth and spreading the field with a lateral passing game. Gus is fast paced all the time and we can not afford him to put the defense in a hole with three and outs. If Gus is hired, I feel that we will be in the same position three or four years from now at the bottom of the SEC. Despite what many believe, Gus is not that good of a recruiter and can not maintain upper level talent. We do have some very good talent and need someone that can maintain. But if everyone just wants to beat the weaker teams and go toe to toe with Kentucky, Vandy, and the Miss schools, then Gus is your man. His offense is too gimmicky and flat when not working and he is not proven enough to be a big time SEC coach. Gus is a safe pick and every Auburn fan knows that this is not the time for the safe pick. We need a coach with a proven record at big time program to lead us back to winning championships. Great post! ***Take the time to read*** So we should try to match up man for man with teams like bama, LSU and florida? no dice ^^^^Exactly^^^^ Texas A&M would beg to differ that the spread can't work in this league. So would Urban Meyer's 2 national championship teams. Saban wouldn't be complaining about the HUNH spread attacks if it didn't give his traditional teams fits. A&M, FL and Gus's spread are all different types of spread. The spread can certainly work. I just don't care for Gus's spread. A&M has a decent defense to go along with the offense...they depended on it in the second half against Bama and we all know that FL had a good D when they won the NC with spread QB Tebow. Guess who the D coordinator was? Ummm....Charlie Strong. Can Gus field a decent D? Who knows...he may can but I tired of gambling on coaches who would be a major question mark. Gus would be more of a gamble than Chiz. How does that make sense? Take away 2010 and what do you have? Fair enough. I don't think Gus would be as big of a gamble as Chizik. He actually has won as a head coach. Both in high school and now at Arky State. I don't know if he could field a solid defense and that is a concern. I also can see where his go go go offense hurts the defensive side. Here is one thing to consider also. As I look at Auburn 2010, the Florida teams and now aTm, hey all had once in a lifetime quarterbacks. Now are these quarterbacks just that good, or were they that good because of the system. If they are that good, then there is a real concern about the overall effectiveness of the spread in the SEC. If they are great because of the system, then maybe it's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue. Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then Tell me one thing I have said that is incorrect. I find it amusing that you thought Gus recruited Cam. That speaks volumes. Bottom line - recruiting is half the game these days, and Gus is well known not to like recruiting. Accordingly, he will not likely be AU's next HC. Can you prove that Gus does not like to recruit....I mean bonafide proof? I'm not spouting anything that isn't well documented in mainstream media. Just check al.com's archives. I'm not claiming this is inside info. Additionally, let's not forget Gus' wife - she is too much of a loose canon. If you want proof of that, just go to YouTube Just did ..I found nothing out there saying he does not like to recruit....nothing from Goldberg or Woodberry.....prove it and I will recognize it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jojo1515 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 All of you who keep quoting the 30 posts prior to yours and arguing have RUINED this thread fyi. Dont worry, I will go somewhere else. Carry on. P.s. if you would actually pay attention, you might realize that some actual good info has been scattered in between your arguments and you could actually have a meaningful discussion about an actual splash hire..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miden 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Malzahn wouldn't be a terrible hire, but underwhelming is certainly something that comes to mind. Gus sounds like a good plan B hire, but hes not somebody that a program like Auburn should be taking a chance on unless other options are exhausted. Are we being turned down from other coaches or are we just not even trying to make a big hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhawkeagle 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth ... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus does not like recruiting. For that reason alone, he will not be the next HC. Your posts are idiotic....seriously. .. he RECRUITED one of the best qbs to ever play in college. .. your posts since you've been here have all been diarrhea of the mouth since you've been on this board... claiming to be some "insider" please. ... posting opinions on a message board us one thing but posting moronic statements claiming to be facts is another Gus' disdain for recruiting is well known. Gus did not recruit Cam - if that's who you are referring to - Luper convinced Chizik to bring Cam on board. You point out nothing factual about my posts that are untrue. Haha mmk... just go listen to ol' pawl some more to give us some info then Tell me one thing I have said that is incorrect. I find it amusing that you thought Gus recruited Cam. That speaks volumes. Bottom line - recruiting is half the game these days, and Gus is well known not to like recruiting. Accordingly, he will not likely be AU's next HC. Can you prove that Gus does not like to recruit....I mean bonafide proof? I'm not spouting anything that isn't well documented in mainstream media. Just check al.com's archives. I'm not claiming this is inside info. Additionally, let's not forget Gus' wife - she is too much of a loose canon. If you want proof of that, just go to YouTube Just did ..I found nothing out there saying he does not like to recruit....nothing from Goldberg or Woodberry.....prove it and I will recognize it...... Just real quick. I want to recognize the proper usage of the word "loose" in the above post. Poster was actually referring to something that is loose, as in not tight. Not as in "loosing" games which is what we usually see. Bravo sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Lets all think back to four years ago when Jacobs said he would make a splash hire and that hire turned out to be Gene Chizik. Well, we all know how that turned out. If Gus is the guy who is hired it would hardly qualify as a splash. Splash or not....That coach still led this team to its first title in 53 years...I could care less about winning press conferences...or splashes. I prefer coaches that win the conference you know SEC conference championships.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8t2baub 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 It's amazing how great people think Malzahn is. The only reason he isn't still coaching high school is because Nutt wanted his qb, wr and te. Now people are comparing him to Spurrier and think he's ready to be a head coach in the most brutal division in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhawkeagle 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 All of you who keep quoting the 30 posts prior to yours and arguing have RUINED this thread fyi. Dont worry, I will go somewhere else. Carry on. P.s. if you would actually pay attention, you might realize that some actual good info has been scattered in between your arguments and you could actually have a meaningful discussion about an actual splash hire..... Touche'. Guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8t2baub 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Lets all think back to four years ago when Jacobs said he would make a splash hire and that hire turned out to be Gene Chizik. Well, we all know how that turned out. If Gus is the guy who is hired it would hardly qualify as a splash. Splash or not....That coach still led this team to its first title in 53 years...I could care less about winning press conferences...or splashes. I prefer coaches that win the conference you know SEC conference championships.... So you think it was a mistake to fire Chizik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU Counsel 64 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 The thing that always sticks in the back of my mind about Malzahn is Cam Newton. Under Malzahn's tutelage, he led the sec in rushing. Before the draft, every scout said the same things about him: poor mechanics, a qb that thrived in a gimmicky system, never was responsible to make more than 2 reads. He goes to the nfl and has the greatest passing season for a rookie in history. And his qb coach was Mike Shula! Why wasn't Cam throwing for 4,000 yards at Auburn? Why didn't Malzahn recognize his arm talent? And if Malzahn didn't recognize Cam's full ability, can we hope he recognizes it in someone else? Cam rushed for 1500 plus yards at Auburn. Why doesn't Carolina recognize his rushing talent, when he fails to rush for 1000 yards over 1600 games? Heavy sarcasm here... 4000 yards for Cam in AU's offense? Dude, are you on drugs? AU ran a run first offense...that was the philosophy of Chizik and Malzahn in 2010...and we were very effective, and Cam still passed for over 2500 yards. Let's try some logical coherence...this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever read...reminds me of AL.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8t2baub 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 All of you who keep quoting the 30 posts prior to yours and arguing have RUINED this thread fyi. Dont worry, I will go somewhere else. Carry on. P.s. if you would actually pay attention, you might realize that some actual good info has been scattered in between your arguments and you could actually have a meaningful discussion about an actual splash hire..... We shall carry on, like boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubinvnam 29 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Talk to a few Bama fans if you can bear it. They seem to be rooting for Malzahn to get the job. What they don't want is someone like Petrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,964 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Please not Gus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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