Malzahn the likely replacement

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

Oh and if Gus comes on board we will probably be stuck with Frazier at QB again..... Proven recipe for failure!

Same thing i said about Gus and KF. Gus hand picked KF. How is he working out? Even if KF runs the spread I don't see him getting that much better. He looks scared and timid playing against guys in the SEC. If Gus can't pick a QB what do people think he is going to do to the defense? Gus should be towards the bottom of the list. I don't even want him on the list!

I'm not sure Tom Brady, oh sorry, Tommy Brady could make Loeffler look competent. Seriously, how can you judge a QB with the retarded mess of play calling we had this year. I award your post no points.

I don't give 2 s(#$!@ about your points. If KF was as good as advertised he would have shown SOME kind of signs that he would be a good QB regardless of the play calling and offense ran. There were no signs what so ever he can even run Gus's spread which he was bought in to do! KF still has to go through his reads...he still has to show leadership...he still has to exhibit no fear in whatever offense he runs! He is NOT built for the SEC in any capacity..spread or pro.

Same thing was said by clueless fans about Campbell. Most QB need a few years to adjust to the college game. KF didn't even get a red-shirt year like he should have gotten. The truth is if we had run an option attack this year we might have had more success on offense. The coaches tried to run a "Pro-style" offense with spread talent, Blame is 100% on the coaches for the inept offense.

So why does JW look two times better than KF in SL's offense and he is a spread QB too?

[AU66 0]

To clarify (from Mayor... his info, not opinion),

If JJ gets fired before a hire is annouced it will be Jeff Fisher.

Otherwise, it could still be JF and JJ gets terminated later or GM/BP. JF is target #1. He wants the job. Les Snead/AD is a big bargaining point.

The scuttlebutt about NCAA investigation is obviously being used by opponents of JJ to get him out. He apparently is tight with Dr Gouge. My guess is that it will take some serious pressure from the board.

My opinion... if this remains unsettled through next week end, don't think for a minute that what Bama does in the SECCG may not effect the balance in terms of financing and leverage. All 3 of these guys want the job, there is no reason to believe otherwise. I image they all 3 think a turn around can be swift (GM has said as much last week).

where did this rumor/inside info come from the mayor at? havent seen it? i`m assuming its the mayor of chillville,i just remember he broke the reason that Lache Seastrunk never came to AU and from Seastrunks interveiw about AU after he signed with Oregon i believe it strongly to be true.He is an excellent source

[jetermary 6]

Petrino has the motorcycle wreck baggage.

Gus has his really unusual wife baggage.

There is no perfect replacement.

Hire the best d@mn football coach and not someone who is a choir boy.

Has Auburn gotton that low that we don't care about character?

[AcUmen 242]

I agree with some others. AU could do worse than Gus, but he isn't overly exciting. He probably wouldn't get boo'ed by airport guy at least. Gus is a stand-up guy by all accounts and has seemingly kept his nose clean both personally and professionally.

However, he doesn't have the winning record Petrino has. Gus has never been a HC on a major level. Petrino has had success at all levels of college in multiple conferences and has had success in the NFL as an OC. He was also good enough to be hired as the Falcon's HC. How many college coaches can say they have been offered HEAD jobs in the NFL? About 6 or 8? Saban, Spurrier, Carroll, Walsh, Stallings, Davis, and likely Chip Kelly. That's a pretty impressive list. All of them have college MNC's except Kelly and Petrino.

So, if AU wants an offensive coach who is the best realistic candidate, it is Petrino without a doubt. No objective person can say otherwise. If they want to go with a Saban-like defensive coach, there are other choices. But if it's a Gus vs. Petrino, no doubt the winner at this point is Petrino.

[smackydoodle 200]

Petrino isn't dependable. What he does in his personal life couldn't care less... the last three teams he has been associated with were burned by his abrupt departure.

[Altima 200]

Petrino has the motorcycle wreck baggage.

Gus has his really unusual wife baggage.

There is no perfect replacement.

Hire the best d@mn football coach and not someone who is a choir boy.

Has Auburn gotton that low that we don't care about character?

YES !!! We are that low! We were 3-9! We are the WORST team in the SEC! We need a WINNER! and, we need him FAST!!!

[Wartigerman 0]

Please don't start saying Campbell was great. He was like Jemarcus Russell out of lsu. Part of a good team, made to look great by great running backs. Drafted high and exposed for what they were...overrated.

[maxwere 82]

To clarify (from Mayor... his info, not opinion),

If JJ gets fired before a hire is annouced it will be Jeff Fisher.

Otherwise, it could still be JF and JJ gets terminated later or GM/BP. JF is target #1. He wants the job. Les Snead/AD is a big bargaining point.

The scuttlebutt about NCAA investigation is obviously being used by opponents of JJ to get him out. He apparently is tight with Dr Gouge. My guess is that it will take some serious pressure from the board.

My opinion... if this remains unsettled through next week end, don't think for a minute that what Bama does in the SECCG may not effect the balance in terms of financing and leverage. All 3 of these guys want the job, there is no reason to believe otherwise. I image they all 3 think a turn around can be swift (GM has said as much last week).

where did this rumor/inside info come from the mayor at? havent seen it? i`m assuming its the mayor of chillville,i just remember he broke the reason that Lache Seastrunk never came to AU and from Seastrunks interveiw about AU after he signed with Oregon i believe it strongly to be true.He is an excellent source

Facebook PM.

[Wartigerman 0]

Petrino isn't dependable. He's burned the last three teams he's been associated with. What he does in his personal life couldn't care less... the last three teams he has been associated with were burned by his abrupt departure.

Cover that in the contract. Morals clause, a weighted buyout, etc. That's what lawyers are for gosh darn it.

[AU66 0]

To clarify (from Mayor... his info, not opinion),

If JJ gets fired before a hire is annouced it will be Jeff Fisher.

Otherwise, it could still be JF and JJ gets terminated later or GM/BP. JF is target #1. He wants the job. Les Snead/AD is a big bargaining point.

The scuttlebutt about NCAA investigation is obviously being used by opponents of JJ to get him out. He apparently is tight with Dr Gouge. My guess is that it will take some serious pressure from the board.

My opinion... if this remains unsettled through next week end, don't think for a minute that what Bama does in the SECCG may not effect the balance in terms of financing and leverage. All 3 of these guys want the job, there is no reason to believe otherwise. I image they all 3 think a turn around can be swift (GM has said as much last week).

where did this rumor/inside info come from the mayor at? havent seen it? i`m assuming its the mayor of chillville,i just remember he broke the reason that Lache Seastrunk never came to AU and from Seastrunks interveiw about AU after he signed with Oregon i believe it strongly to be true.He is an excellent source

Facebook PM.

max did you get the impression that he thought he might come even without Snead?

[johnjacob 44]

Oh and if Gus comes on board we will probably be stuck with Frazier at QB again..... Proven recipe for failure!

Same thing i said about Gus and KF. Gus hand picked KF. How is he working out? Even if KF runs the spread I don't see him getting that much better. He looks scared and timid playing against guys in the SEC. If Gus can't pick a QB what do people think he is going to do to the defense? Gus should be towards the bottom of the list. I don't even want him on the list!

I'm not sure Tom Brady, oh sorry, Tommy Brady could make Loeffler look competent. Seriously, how can you judge a QB with the retarded mess of play calling we had this year. I award your post no points.

I don't give 2 s(#$!@ about your points. If KF was as good as advertised he would have shown SOME kind of signs that he would be a good QB regardless of the play calling and offense ran. There were no signs what so ever he can even run Gus's spread which he was bought in to do! KF still has to go through his reads...he still has to show leadership...he still has to exhibit no fear in whatever offense he runs! He is NOT built for the SEC in any capacity..spread or pro.

Same thing was said by clueless fans about Campbell. Most QB need a few years to adjust to the college game. KF didn't even get a red-shirt year like he should have gotten. The truth is if we had run an option attack this year we might have had more success on offense. The coaches tried to run a "Pro-style" offense with spread talent, Blame is 100% on the coaches for the inept offense.

So why does JW look two times better than KF in SL's offense and he is a spread QB too?

He didn't yesterday. I saw two ints by JW. KF was looking improved vs Arky before he got hurt. But you just keep spewing your hate, you obviously need a scapegoat to fume at.

[fishhawkeagle 0]

Everybody is caught up in the numbers that Gus put on smaller and weaker SEC teams. He was shut down consistently by the teams with better defenses and his continuous fast pace three and outs led to a tired defense. Take away his 2010 with Cam and in 2009, he was shut down and held to 14 points in a loss to Kentucky (Not your SEC powerhouse by the way) and was held to 16 points by a Bobby Petrino Arkansas team ( We all know Petrino doesn't do defense) and scored a late garbage touchdown to lose 44-23. We got killed by LSU that year because of quick three and outs and they wore us down. Gus did manage to keep us in a low scoring loss to a 8-5 Georgia that year and had to use gimmick plays to score on Alabama in a game in which defense played some dominate football in shutting down Ingram. In 2011, the defense became softer and weaker and the amount of three and outs led to more blowouts. Fact is, everybody loves his high powered offenses when playing against lesser talent but fail to see how it hurts when playing against better defenses. This is the SEC and the better athletes are mostly on defense. Sure he will give us a chance to consistently beat Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vanderbilt and other weak teams but his offense does not fit in the SEC to beat and compete with the best teams and to win championships. And you are not guaranteed a Cam or Johnny Football every year so why take a chance on him. Look at who is always the top of the SEC divisions. (Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Florida) They all have very good and physical defenses. We already have a soft defense and his offense only makes a defense softer. Even with Tuberville's players in 2008, (take away Iron Bowl blowout in which team was overmatched as Tubs was on way out) we played physical defense and until we get someone who pushes for physicalness on the defensive side of the ball, we will continue to get softer. Gus's offense is made for Conference USA and the Sun Belt in which he can put up numbers and play teams that don't have the best athletes on the field. We need an offensive that can be versatile in smash mouth and spreading the field with a lateral passing game. Gus is fast paced all the time and we can not afford him to put the defense in a hole with three and outs. If Gus is hired, I feel that we will be in the same position three or four years from now at the bottom of the SEC. Despite what many believe, Gus is not that good of a recruiter and can not maintain upper level talent. We do have some very good talent and need someone that can maintain. But if everyone just wants to beat the weaker teams and go toe to toe with Kentucky, Vandy, and the Miss schools, then Gus is your man. His offense is too gimmicky and flat when not working and he is not proven enough to be a big time SEC coach. Gus is a safe pick and every Auburn fan knows that this is not the time for the safe pick. We need a coach with a proven record at big time program to lead us back to winning championships.

Great post!

***Take the time to read***

So we should try to match up man for man with teams like bama, LSU and florida? no dice

[Browning4AU 405]

Some people just want to be confrontational no matter the circumstances.

[Altima 200]

Everybody is caught up in the numbers that Gus put on smaller and weaker SEC teams. He was shut down consistently by the teams with better defenses and his continuous fast pace three and outs led to a tired defense. Take away his 2010 with Cam and in 2009, he was shut down and held to 14 points in a loss to Kentucky (Not your SEC powerhouse by the way) and was held to 16 points by a Bobby Petrino Arkansas team ( We all know Petrino doesn't do defense) and scored a late garbage touchdown to lose 44-23. We got killed by LSU that year because of quick three and outs and they wore us down. Gus did manage to keep us in a low scoring loss to a 8-5 Georgia that year and had to use gimmick plays to score on Alabama in a game in which defense played some dominate football in shutting down Ingram. In 2011, the defense became softer and weaker and the amount of three and outs led to more blowouts. Fact is, everybody loves his high powered offenses when playing against lesser talent but fail to see how it hurts when playing against better defenses. This is the SEC and the better athletes are mostly on defense. Sure he will give us a chance to consistently beat Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vanderbilt and other weak teams but his offense does not fit in the SEC to beat and compete with the best teams and to win championships. And you are not guaranteed a Cam or Johnny Football every year so why take a chance on him. Look at who is always the top of the SEC divisions. (Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Florida) They all have very good and physical defenses. We already have a soft defense and his offense only makes a defense softer. Even with Tuberville's players in 2008, (take away Iron Bowl blowout in which team was overmatched as Tubs was on way out) we played physical defense and until we get someone who pushes for physicalness on the defensive side of the ball, we will continue to get softer. Gus's offense is made for Conference USA and the Sun Belt in which he can put up numbers and play teams that don't have the best athletes on the field. We need an offensive that can be versatile in smash mouth and spreading the field with a lateral passing game. Gus is fast paced all the time and we can not afford him to put the defense in a hole with three and outs. If Gus is hired, I feel that we will be in the same position three or four years from now at the bottom of the SEC. Despite what many believe, Gus is not that good of a recruiter and can not maintain upper level talent. We do have some very good talent and need someone that can maintain. But if everyone just wants to beat the weaker teams and go toe to toe with Kentucky, Vandy, and the Miss schools, then Gus is your man. His offense is too gimmicky and flat when not working and he is not proven enough to be a big time SEC coach. Gus is a safe pick and every Auburn fan knows that this is not the time for the safe pick. We need a coach with a proven record at big time program to lead us back to winning championships.

Great post!

***Take the time to read***

So we should try to match up man for man with teams like bama, LSU and florida? no dice

Why can't we... ? What makes teams like UGA, bama, LSU, and FLA so much better than us? We can get there... If we make the right hire, we will be amongst the "big boys" again...

[Wartigerman 0]

Everybody is caught up in the numbers that Gus put on smaller and weaker SEC teams. He was shut down consistently by the teams with better defenses and his continuous fast pace three and outs led to a tired defense. Take away his 2010 with Cam and in 2009, he was shut down and held to 14 points in a loss to Kentucky (Not your SEC powerhouse by the way) and was held to 16 points by a Bobby Petrino Arkansas team ( We all know Petrino doesn't do defense) and scored a late garbage touchdown to lose 44-23. We got killed by LSU that year because of quick three and outs and they wore us down. Gus did manage to keep us in a low scoring loss to a 8-5 Georgia that year and had to use gimmick plays to score on Alabama in a game in which defense played some dominate football in shutting down Ingram. In 2011, the defense became softer and weaker and the amount of three and outs led to more blowouts. Fact is, everybody loves his high powered offenses when playing against lesser talent but fail to see how it hurts when playing against better defenses. This is the SEC and the better athletes are mostly on defense. Sure he will give us a chance to consistently beat Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vanderbilt and other weak teams but his offense does not fit in the SEC to beat and compete with the best teams and to win championships. And you are not guaranteed a Cam or Johnny Football every year so why take a chance on him. Look at who is always the top of the SEC divisions. (Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Florida) They all have very good and physical defenses. We already have a soft defense and his offense only makes a defense softer. Even with Tuberville's players in 2008, (take away Iron Bowl blowout in which team was overmatched as Tubs was on way out) we played physical defense and until we get someone who pushes for physicalness on the defensive side of the ball, we will continue to get softer. Gus's offense is made for Conference USA and the Sun Belt in which he can put up numbers and play teams that don't have the best athletes on the field. We need an offensive that can be versatile in smash mouth and spreading the field with a lateral passing game. Gus is fast paced all the time and we can not afford him to put the defense in a hole with three and outs. If Gus is hired, I feel that we will be in the same position three or four years from now at the bottom of the SEC. Despite what many believe, Gus is not that good of a recruiter and can not maintain upper level talent. We do have some very good talent and need someone that can maintain. But if everyone just wants to beat the weaker teams and go toe to toe with Kentucky, Vandy, and the Miss schools, then Gus is your man. His offense is too gimmicky and flat when not working and he is not proven enough to be a big time SEC coach. Gus is a safe pick and every Auburn fan knows that this is not the time for the safe pick. We need a coach with a proven record at big time program to lead us back to winning championships.

Great post!

***Take the time to read***

So we should try to match up man for man with teams like bama, LSU and florida? no dice

I think the point was that while everyone wants a great new coach, to not put on blinders to reality. EVERYTHING needs to be taken into account, not just the 2010 season. This is going to go on and on until a name is announced...and I've seen the same basic post 15103 times so far.

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

Oh and if Gus comes on board we will probably be stuck with Frazier at QB again..... Proven recipe for failure!

Same thing i said about Gus and KF. Gus hand picked KF. How is he working out? Even if KF runs the spread I don't see him getting that much better. He looks scared and timid playing against guys in the SEC. If Gus can't pick a QB what do people think he is going to do to the defense? Gus should be towards the bottom of the list. I don't even want him on the list!

I'm not sure Tom Brady, oh sorry, Tommy Brady could make Loeffler look competent. Seriously, how can you judge a QB with the retarded mess of play calling we had this year. I award your post no points.

I don't give 2 s(#$!@ about your points. If KF was as good as advertised he would have shown SOME kind of signs that he would be a good QB regardless of the play calling and offense ran. There were no signs what so ever he can even run Gus's spread which he was bought in to do! KF still has to go through his reads...he still has to show leadership...he still has to exhibit no fear in whatever offense he runs! He is NOT built for the SEC in any capacity..spread or pro.

Angry.

blah, blah, blah no fear in whatever offense he runs. WTF does that mean? We are loaded up and down with 4 and 5 star players and they all suck right? OR. Big OR here. OR the coaching staff was completely incompetent and didn't have the first clue how to develop players. Not saying Frazier is Cam 2.0 but I would like to see him play in an offense that has some semblance of coordination.

It means that KF was scared sh(tless as QB even when SL did put him in the shotgun and the only accurate ball he threw was the deep ball. How many times was he sacked? Even JW did some good things in SL's offense and he is a spread guy too! LOL. You people are funny. Fire Chiz and hire somebody like Gus! lol. Even slime ball JJ stated how bad the entire team is when it comes to development and fundamentals. Name a team other than a High School team that Gus has developed? Please....hiring Gus is the same as hiring Chiz. They should've keep Chiz if they go out and get Gus.

Now we're talking football. Bu first things first- JJ is a moron. I don't know that Gus will be a good head coach and I'm not calling for his hire. I like Jimbo and I like Petrino (well, don't LIKE Petrino but the man can coach) I do like the spread because I think Auburn can't recruit against ND, Oklahoma and Southern Cal. I think a hit em where they aint offense is for us. I'm ok with Malzahn and I'm ok with Fisher and I'm ok with Petrino. I want to see discipline and accountability back in the clubhouse. My only points here were that I think it may be premature to judge KF on this bloody turd of a season. We never had more than 3 receivers out and mostly threw on 3rd and long. How can you ask a qb to be successful with that mess? He may not be the answer but with a disciplined, well coached team I'm willing to take a look.

We're on the same team '83 and want the same thing. Let's not kick each other in the shins because we talk about it in slightly different terms. War Eagle.

I'm not kicking anyone shins. I just don't understand the logic behind Gus being at the top of many fans coaching list and even the Admin's list it that is true when there is certainly much more better HC talent out there and they have at least proved that they can develop an entire team. Going with Gus is going backwards from Chiz. Gus is a high school coach with 3 years of D1 coaching experience. He hasn't stayed anywhere long enough to say and show that he can truely develop a team. Sorry but Arky St doesn't count. I would take the ULM coach over Gus's resume. Yes, it did some good things at Auburn but I think he is getting way too much credit for that and if some people would take off their blinders and really look at his resume there is no way he should be at the top of our list.

IMO the reason that KF can be evaluated more than other players at other positions is b/c he is a QB who has started games. The QB touches the ball on EVERY single play and is in the game in every situation. Yes, our OL, WRs, and SL were horrible but still with all of that...there should be some signs that KF has what it takes to run an offense if he was put with the right coach and offense system. I saw nothing that would make me think he could even run Gus's offense. JW did! JW did some nice things even with all those things going against him...that's what I'm talking about. At least JW showed some signs....KF simply did not. Doesn't mean he will not but it's like people think Gus is magically going to come in and KF is going to turn into this outstanding QB all of a sudden after showing no signs he has what it takes. We shall see...not angry at all..just trying to understand the logic that's all.

[johnjacob 44]

Please don't start saying Campbell was great. He was like Jemarcus Russell out of lsu. Part of a good team, made to look great by great running backs. Drafted high and exposed for what they were...overrated.

OK Campbell wasn't a good QB on an undefeated team. Yeah the NFL is the same as college ball. I guess Craig wasn't a good college QB either since he went undrafted by the NFL.

[tbon986 1]

here's something that we don't consider about rehiring CGM...Say he re-hires BVG. Who better to learn how to defend the spread from than the guy who has perfected the misdirection spread? A good resource.

I agree with you and 70, plus Malhzan recruited alot of these guys and I think the current recruits would like him. Plus we will score points.

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

Oh and if Gus comes on board we will probably be stuck with Frazier at QB again..... Proven recipe for failure!

Same thing i said about Gus and KF. Gus hand picked KF. How is he working out? Even if KF runs the spread I don't see him getting that much better. He looks scared and timid playing against guys in the SEC. If Gus can't pick a QB what do people think he is going to do to the defense? Gus should be towards the bottom of the list. I don't even want him on the list!

I'm not sure Tom Brady, oh sorry, Tommy Brady could make Loeffler look competent. Seriously, how can you judge a QB with the retarded mess of play calling we had this year. I award your post no points.

I don't give 2 s(#$!@ about your points. If KF was as good as advertised he would have shown SOME kind of signs that he would be a good QB regardless of the play calling and offense ran. There were no signs what so ever he can even run Gus's spread which he was bought in to do! KF still has to go through his reads...he still has to show leadership...he still has to exhibit no fear in whatever offense he runs! He is NOT built for the SEC in any capacity..spread or pro.

Same thing was said by clueless fans about Campbell. Most QB need a few years to adjust to the college game. KF didn't even get a red-shirt year like he should have gotten. The truth is if we had run an option attack this year we might have had more success on offense. The coaches tried to run a "Pro-style" offense with spread talent, Blame is 100% on the coaches for the inept offense.

So why does JW look two times better than KF in SL's offense and he is a spread QB too?

He didn't yesterday. I saw two ints by JW. KF was looking improved vs Arky before he got hurt. But you just keep spewing your hate, you obviously need a scapegoat to fume at.

lol. Ok...so how many INTs did KF have? How many sacks for lost yards? At least JW is not scared to tuck it and run rather than get sacked for a ton of yards. I certainly would like a better QB than both of those guys but I would pick JW over KF in a heartbeat at this point. KF may have more skills than JW but if KF is scared and can't execute in on the field...it's no good. Keep living in denial land....

[johnjacob 44]

Oh and if Gus comes on board we will probably be stuck with Frazier at QB again..... Proven recipe for failure!

Same thing i said about Gus and KF. Gus hand picked KF. How is he working out? Even if KF runs the spread I don't see him getting that much better. He looks scared and timid playing against guys in the SEC. If Gus can't pick a QB what do people think he is going to do to the defense? Gus should be towards the bottom of the list. I don't even want him on the list!

I'm not sure Tom Brady, oh sorry, Tommy Brady could make Loeffler look competent. Seriously, how can you judge a QB with the retarded mess of play calling we had this year. I award your post no points.

I don't give 2 s(#$!@ about your points. If KF was as good as advertised he would have shown SOME kind of signs that he would be a good QB regardless of the play calling and offense ran. There were no signs what so ever he can even run Gus's spread which he was bought in to do! KF still has to go through his reads...he still has to show leadership...he still has to exhibit no fear in whatever offense he runs! He is NOT built for the SEC in any capacity..spread or pro.

Angry.

blah, blah, blah no fear in whatever offense he runs. WTF does that mean? We are loaded up and down with 4 and 5 star players and they all suck right? OR. Big OR here. OR the coaching staff was completely incompetent and didn't have the first clue how to develop players. Not saying Frazier is Cam 2.0 but I would like to see him play in an offense that has some semblance of coordination.

It means that KF was scared sh(tless as QB even when SL did put him in the shotgun and the only accurate ball he threw was the deep ball. How many times was he sacked? Even JW did some good things in SL's offense and he is a spread guy too! LOL. You people are funny. Fire Chiz and hire somebody like Gus! lol. Even slime ball JJ stated how bad the entire team is when it comes to development and fundamentals. Name a team other than a High School team that Gus has developed? Please....hiring Gus is the same as hiring Chiz. They should've keep Chiz if they go out and get Gus.

Now we're talking football. Bu first things first- JJ is a moron. I don't know that Gus will be a good head coach and I'm not calling for his hire. I like Jimbo and I like Petrino (well, don't LIKE Petrino but the man can coach) I do like the spread because I think Auburn can't recruit against ND, Oklahoma and Southern Cal. I think a hit em where they aint offense is for us. I'm ok with Malzahn and I'm ok with Fisher and I'm ok with Petrino. I want to see discipline and accountability back in the clubhouse. My only points here were that I think it may be premature to judge KF on this bloody turd of a season. We never had more than 3 receivers out and mostly threw on 3rd and long. How can you ask a qb to be successful with that mess? He may not be the answer but with a disciplined, well coached team I'm willing to take a look.

We're on the same team '83 and want the same thing. Let's not kick each other in the shins because we talk about it in slightly different terms. War Eagle.

I'm not kicking anyone shins. I just don't understand the logic behind Gus being at the top of many fans coaching list and even the Admin's list it that is true when there is certainly much more better HC talent out there and they have at least proved that they can develop an entire team. Going with Gus is going backwards from Chiz. Gus is a high school coach with 3 years of D1 coaching experience. He hasn't stayed anywhere long enough to say and show that he can truely develop a team. Sorry but Arky St doesn't count. I would take the ULM coach over Gus's resume. Yes, it did some good things at Auburn but I think he is getting way too much credit for that and if some people would take off their blinders and really look at his resume there is no way he should be at the top of our list.

IMO the reason that KF can be evaluated more than other players at other positions is b/c he is a QB who has started games. The QB touches the ball on EVERY single play and is in the game in every situation. Yes, our OL, WRs, and SL were horrible but still with all of that...there should be some signs that KF has what it takes to run an offense if he was put with the right coach and offense system. I saw nothing that would make me think he could even run Gus's offense. JW did! JW did some nice things even with all those things going against him...that's what I'm talking about. At least JW showed some signs....KF simply did not. Doesn't mean he will not but it's like people think Gus is magically going to come in and KF is going to turn into this outstanding QB all of a sudden after showing no signs he has what it takes. We shall see...not angry at all..just trying to understand the logic that's all.

JW showed signs against NMST and Alabama A&M. He looked as bad vs SEC teams as the other 2 QBs and a lot of it had to do with poor OL play.

[TW82 0]

Alex-- I think keeping JJ changed the options.

JJ staying at AD limits us severely. The "system" that is in place will continue...find a guy who has been at AU before that "knows how it works" and will knuckle under, then hire him.

[fishhawkeagle 0]

Oh and if Gus comes on board we will probably be stuck with Frazier at QB again..... Proven recipe for failure!

Same thing i said about Gus and KF. Gus hand picked KF. How is he working out? Even if KF runs the spread I don't see him getting that much better. He looks scared and timid playing against guys in the SEC. If Gus can't pick a QB what do people think he is going to do to the defense? Gus should be towards the bottom of the list. I don't even want him on the list!

I'm not sure Tom Brady, oh sorry, Tommy Brady could make Loeffler look competent. Seriously, how can you judge a QB with the retarded mess of play calling we had this year. I award your post no points.

I don't give 2 s(#$!@ about your points. If KF was as good as advertised he would have shown SOME kind of signs that he would be a good QB regardless of the play calling and offense ran. There were no signs what so ever he can even run Gus's spread which he was bought in to do! KF still has to go through his reads...he still has to show leadership...he still has to exhibit no fear in whatever offense he runs! He is NOT built for the SEC in any capacity..spread or pro.

Angry.

blah, blah, blah no fear in whatever offense he runs. WTF does that mean? We are loaded up and down with 4 and 5 star players and they all suck right? OR. Big OR here. OR the coaching staff was completely incompetent and didn't have the first clue how to develop players. Not saying Frazier is Cam 2.0 but I would like to see him play in an offense that has some semblance of coordination.

It means that KF was scared sh(tless as QB even when SL did put him in the shotgun and the only accurate ball he threw was the deep ball. How many times was he sacked? Even JW did some good things in SL's offense and he is a spread guy too! LOL. You people are funny. Fire Chiz and hire somebody like Gus! lol. Even slime ball JJ stated how bad the entire team is when it comes to development and fundamentals. Name a team other than a High School team that Gus has developed? Please....hiring Gus is the same as hiring Chiz. They should've keep Chiz if they go out and get Gus.

Now we're talking football. Bu first things first- JJ is a moron. I don't know that Gus will be a good head coach and I'm not calling for his hire. I like Jimbo and I like Petrino (well, don't LIKE Petrino but the man can coach) I do like the spread because I think Auburn can't recruit against ND, Oklahoma and Southern Cal. I think a hit em where they aint offense is for us. I'm ok with Malzahn and I'm ok with Fisher and I'm ok with Petrino. I want to see discipline and accountability back in the clubhouse. My only points here were that I think it may be premature to judge KF on this bloody turd of a season. We never had more than 3 receivers out and mostly threw on 3rd and long. How can you ask a qb to be successful with that mess? He may not be the answer but with a disciplined, well coached team I'm willing to take a look.

We're on the same team '83 and want the same thing. Let's not kick each other in the shins because we talk about it in slightly different terms. War Eagle.

I'm not kicking anyone shins. I just don't understand the logic behind Gus being at the top of many fans coaching list and even the Admin's list it that is true when there is certainly much more better HC talent out there and they have at least proved that they can develop an entire team. Going with Gus is going backwards from Chiz. Gus is a high school coach with 3 years of D1 coaching experience. He hasn't stayed anywhere long enough to say and show that he can truely develop a team. Sorry but Arky St doesn't count. I would take the ULM coach over Gus's resume. Yes, it did some good things at Auburn but I think he is getting way too much credit for that and if some people would take off their blinders and really look at his resume there is no way he should be at the top of our list.

IMO the reason that KF can be evaluated more than other players at other positions is b/c he is a QB who has started games. The QB touches the ball on EVERY single play and is in the game in every situation. Yes, our OL, WRs, and SL were horrible but still with all of that...there should be some signs that KF has what it takes to run an offense if he was put with the right coach and offense system. I saw nothing that would make me think he could even run Gus's offense. JW did! JW did some nice things even with all those things going against him...that's what I'm talking about. At least JW showed some signs....KF simply did not. Doesn't mean he will not but it's like people think Gus is magically going to come in and KF is going to turn into this outstanding QB all of a sudden after showing no signs he has what it takes. We shall see...not angry at all..just trying to understand the logic that's all.

La Monroe allows a whopping 13 yards per game less than we do and runs a spread offense.

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Wasn't Gus' dream job Arkansas? With it being open, wouldn't he take it over Auburn?

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Gus with JJ at Qb will be AUsome. Gus is a very smart coach that produces exciting offenses . Let him bring in his own staff and AU will win championships again. I am on the Gus bus.

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Wasn't Gus' dream job Arkansas? With it being open, wouldn't he take it over Auburn?

Probably but I don't think they're after him.