Interesting Ties to Communism and the white house

[AU_Tiger_88 417]

Don't know if this is old news or not but I guess a powerful player in the white house has even more records that have been released about her family ties.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/06/communism-in-jarretts-family/

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) files obtained by Judicial Watch reveal that the dad, maternal grandpa and father-in-law of President Obama’s trusted senior advisor, Valerie Jarrett, were hardcore Communists under investigation by the U.S. government.

[homersapien 11,369]

Oh where have you gone Joseph McCarthy,

Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you,

woo woo woo

woo woo woo

[icanthearyou 4,462]

Never doubt Judicial Watch. We still would not know about the secret ISIS camps on the Texas border without JW.

[TitanTiger 20,479]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

[AU_Tiger_88 417]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

If the ties are still there which in her case they are back to Chicago days, then the answer would be Yes. She helped cover up for Holder. Look you all can disparage JW but at least they have the FBI records. No One has been held accountable for Fast and Furious....So answer me this....if your relative died because of something that a few Government officials were doing that were wrong would you not want that to come out? Or only if they were Republicans? Oh and by the way her Father-in-law also has communist ties. Believe it or not you are influenced by your parents. And she is very high level in the Presidents Ear. So pardon me if I am doubtful of her motives.

[AU_Tiger_88 417]

IF this were in the Bush Administration you better believe the Dems would be all over this...along with the Media circus...

[TitanTiger 20,479]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

If the ties are still there which in her case they are back to Chicago days, then the answer would be Yes. She helped cover up for Holder. Look you all can disparage JW but at least they have the FBI records. No One has been held accountable for Fast and Furious....So answer me this....if your relative died because of something that a few Government officials were doing that were wrong would you not want that to come out? Or only if they were Republicans? Oh and by the way her Father-in-law also has communist ties. Believe it or not you are influenced by your parents. And she is very high level in the Presidents Ear. So pardon me if I am doubtful of her motives.

What someone's parents or grandparents do should call into question their character and motives?

IF this were in the Bush Administration you better believe the Dems would be all over this...along with the Media circus...

And you'd be bitching about it.

[aujeff11 6,243]

Raptor says that Obama is a socialist and a communist so this must be true.

[AU_Tiger_88 417]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

If the ties are still there which in her case they are back to Chicago days, then the answer would be Yes. She helped cover up for Holder. Look you all can disparage JW but at least they have the FBI records. No One has been held accountable for Fast and Furious....So answer me this....if your relative died because of something that a few Government officials were doing that were wrong would you not want that to come out? Or only if they were Republicans? Oh and by the way her Father-in-law also has communist ties. Believe it or not you are influenced by your parents. And she is very high level in the Presidents Ear. So pardon me if I am doubtful of her motives.

What someone's parents or grandparents do should call into question their character and motives?

IF this were in the Bush Administration you better believe the Dems would be all over this...along with the Media circus...

And you'd be bitching about it.

Actually I wouldn't so don't Assume. You may think that I am a Republican but I am not. I admit that I am a Fiscal Conservative and believe that we are spending way too much on things. But I am indifferent as to if you want to mess up your life with Drugs, etc so long as you don't affect others (robbing, stealing, driving while under the influence, etc and can handle it especially if you have kids that you aren't neglecting their well being). But don't ask me to support your habits or wants with money or demand the government pay for it....I think we have no real good candidates now but I do like some of the different ideas and think Carson is a decent man. I think both sides are beholding to the lobbyists and the big corporations that fund their campaigns which I think is morally corrupt as it leaves us common folks hanging in the wind paying for all of their crap.

[WarTim 3,456]

IF this were in the Bush Administration you better believe the Dems would be all over this...along with the Media circus...

Bingo!! The irony is too funny.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

Funny how JW forgets to include the synopsis of the FBI investigative file on Dr. Bowman: NO derogatory information. NO criminal record.

[quietfan 233]

Oh where have you gone Joseph McCarthy,

Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you,

woo woo woo

woo woo woo

Really... Judicial Watch must be hard up for news if they have to go all the way back to the 1940's & '50's--when McCarthyism AND Jim Crow were in full bloom, by the way--to attack a current White House staff member through a relative's actions 60 YEARS AGO!!! Did anyone bother to look at the dates of these investigations? Is it just possible the FBI (under Herbert Hoover) and other federal agencies were less than impartial toward liberals, particularly black liberals, at the time? I stopped reading after looking at the dates of these "smoking gun" files JW finds significant in 2015:

The James Bowman investigations date from '55 or earlier, with one '57 report:

http://www.judicialw...wmanFBIfile.pdf

http://www.judicialw.../Bowmanfile.pdf

The Vernon Jarrett files are even older:

http://www.judicialw...arrett-file.pdf

Do I see a Pulitzer Prize in JW's future??? (Well, maybe a footnote in a small article in an academic journal of history... )

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In other news: Caroline Kennedy and her cousins have no place in politics, 'cause rumor has it her granddaddy may have been in bed with the Mafia and held anti-Semitic views.

[AURaptor 1,122]

Raptor says that Obama is a socialist and a communist so this must be true.

Actually I said his mom was a socialist & his dad was a communist .

And I said it because it is true.

[homersapien 11,369]

Oh where have you gone Joseph McCarthy,

Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you,

woo woo woo

woo woo woo

Really... Judicial Watch must be hard up for news if they have to go all the way back to the 1940's & '50's--when McCarthyism AND Jim Crow were in full bloom, by the way--to attack a current White House staff member through a relative's actions 60 YEARS AGO!!! Did anyone bother to look at the dates of these investigations? Is it just possible the FBI (under Herbert Hoover) and other federal agencies were less than impartial toward liberals, particularly black liberals, at the time? I stopped reading after looking at the dates of these "smoking gun" files JW finds significant in 2015:

The James Bowman investigations date from '55 or earlier, with one '57 report:

http://www.judicialw...wmanFBIfile.pdf

http://www.judicialw.../Bowmanfile.pdf

The Vernon Jarrett files are even older:

http://www.judicialw...arrett-file.pdf

Do I see a Pulitzer Prize in JW's future??? (Well, maybe a footnote in a small article in an academic journal of history... )

_____________

In other news: Caroline Kennedy and her cousins have no place in politics, 'cause rumor has it her granddaddy may have been in bed with the Mafia and held anti-Semitic views.

Back then, desiring to vote was enough to label a black man a communist. After all, it was communist agitators behind the civil rights demonstrations as I recall.

[aujeff11 6,243]

Raptor says that Obama is a socialist and a communist so this must be true.

Actually I said his mom was a socialist & his dad was a communist .

And I said it because it is true.

you said that, too..

[icanthearyou 4,462]

Oh where have you gone Joseph McCarthy,

Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you,

woo woo woo

woo woo woo

Really... Judicial Watch must be hard up for news if they have to go all the way back to the 1940's & '50's--when McCarthyism AND Jim Crow were in full bloom, by the way--to attack a current White House staff member through a relative's actions 60 YEARS AGO!!! Did anyone bother to look at the dates of these investigations? Is it just possible the FBI (under Herbert Hoover) and other federal agencies were less than impartial toward liberals, particularly black liberals, at the time? I stopped reading after looking at the dates of these "smoking gun" files JW finds significant in 2015:

The James Bowman investigations date from '55 or earlier, with one '57 report:

http://www.judicialw...wmanFBIfile.pdf

http://www.judicialw.../Bowmanfile.pdf

The Vernon Jarrett files are even older:

http://www.judicialw...arrett-file.pdf

Do I see a Pulitzer Prize in JW's future??? (Well, maybe a footnote in a small article in an academic journal of history... )

_____________

In other news: Caroline Kennedy and her cousins have no place in politics, 'cause rumor has it her granddaddy may have been in bed with the Mafia and held anti-Semitic views.

Back then, desiring to vote was enough to label a black man a communist. After all, it was communist agitators behind the civil rights demonstrations as I recall.

That there is cause them commies was everwhere. They was in Holleywood tryin to degrade hour morals. They was stirrin up the good negroes. Then they was in the collages stirrin up the young folks an teachin em to smoke dope. They was in the unions till the mafia run em out. Now a days they is called liberals. That there liberal agenda is the same as the commies. They is gonna destroy from with in. If Hitlary Clinten is elected, it will be the end of America. My gold is gonna be worth $100 million dollars an ounce and aint no buddy gonna get it or my guns till they can pry em from my cold dead hands. Raptor an JW an Rush is all rite. Liberals is commies.

[AUtiger98 24]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the 1950's a KKK member would be much more likely to affiliated with the Democratic Party.

[homersapien 11,369]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the 1950's a KKK member would be much more likely to affiliated with the Democratic Party.

Red herring.

You can assume the father and two grandparents were Democrats if it helps. :-\

[TitanTiger 20,479]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the 1950's a KKK member would be much more likely to affiliated with the Democratic Party.

And if that same KKK member were still alive in the 80s or early 90s, he'd have become a Republican.

[AUtiger98 24]

One thing I appreciate about this thread, is that no one has actually defended communism.

[AURaptor 1,122]

Raptor says that Obama is a socialist and a communist so this must be true.

Actually I said his mom was a socialist & his dad was a communist .

And I said it because it is true.

you said that, too..

What's your point ? I said what was true.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

Just as an analogy that might show whether this should be considered relevant:

If you were serving in a Republican administration as a senior adviser, and DailyKos or Media Matters dug into your family's past and found that back in the 1950s your father, and two grandparents had strong ties to the KKK and other white supremacist groups, do you think that should call your service or character into question, or that of the President who trusts you as an adviser?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the 1950's a KKK member would be much more likely to affiliated with the Democratic Party.

I think you should study the details around the 1964 Presidential election, Johnson (D) versus Goldwater ®. It was the tipping point. The motive is obvious, racism.

[WarTim 3,456]

Raptor says that Obama is a socialist and a communist so this must be true.

Actually I said his mom was a socialist & his dad was a communist .

And I said it because it is true.

Raptor, there you go with those darn Facts again.......

[AUtiger98 24]

Is it a coincidence that so many in the Obama admin have ties to communism? Did I miss anyone?

Obama: Influenced by Frank Marshall Davis, and his dad. There are other loose connections too, but these two are well established.

Van Jones: turned to communism in 1992

Anita Dunn: List Mao as a favorite political philosopher

Jay Carney: Soviet posters in his house

David Axelrod: Dad was in the communist party

Valerie Jarret: Family had ties to communist party

[homersapien 11,369]

One thing I appreciate about this thread, is that no one has actually defended communism.

Did you really expect anyone to do so?