Carnell 592 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, keesler said: Phil Fulmer is the AD, he pulls the strings and micromanages his coaches. There's no way Will Friend wasn't involved with the recruitment of Mims, he was the lead recruiter. Now, who knows how much he knew of what happened or whether anything can be proven is another story. We don't even know how far the NCAA investigation has gotten at this point. Man I hope auburn put some serious restrictions on the guy contacting recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boisnumber1 2,821 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Carnell said: I hope so too. But what I read the investigation may center around Mims an OL that eventually signed with the Dawgs. And since Friend was OL coach at Tenn I am feeling real uneasy about the hire. Very well could be why the dawgs are rumored to get an NCAA visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, boisnumber1 said: Very well could be why the dawgs are rumored to get an NCAA visit. Forgot who wrote the article I read but according to the article you are correct. The article said Dawgs got careless with recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,928 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Kirby & Jeremy pissing on each other, some stuff leaked, they both got caught up in it and now the NCAA's involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravejd 3,270 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, keesler said: Kirby & Jeremy pissing on each other, some stuff leaked, they both got caught up in it and now the NCAA's involved. Man a Jeremy Pruitt and Kirby Smart pissing contest sounds like a really entertaining show. Hate i couldn't have been there to witness it 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boisnumber1 2,821 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, keesler said: Kirby & Jeremy pissing on each other, some stuff leaked, they both got caught up in it and now the NCAA's involved. Couldn't happen to two better people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, keesler said: Kirby & Jeremy pissing on each other, some stuff leaked, they both got caught up in it and now the NCAA's involved. I am not worried about that I am worried about how caught up in it are we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,928 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Carnell said: I am not worried about that I am worried about how caught up in it are we. Well, I feel sure his employment status at Auburn is contingent on the NCAA ruling during his time at UT. Contracts customarily have NCAA compliance clauses to protect the school, and AU would be no different. Now, rumor has it that Phil Fulmer (UT AD) wants Pruitt out badly, AND he may be stabbing Pruitt in the back so that he can fire him with cause and UT won't owe JP the buyout. Who knows what other UT coaches (Friend) could get caught up in the fallout, as Fulmer is a piece of crap and isn't beyond backstabbing a UT HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, keesler said: Well, I feel sure his employment status at Auburn is contingent on the NCAA ruling during his time at UT. Contracts customarily have NCAA compliance clauses to protect the school, and AU would be no different. Now, rumor has it that Phil Fulmer (UT AD) wants Pruitt out badly, AND he may be stabbing Pruitt in the back so that he can fire him with cause and UT won't owe JP the buyout. Who knows what other UT coaches (Friend) could get caught up in the fallout, as Fulmer is a piece of crap and isn't beyond backstabbing a UT HC. I understand that but nothing can protect Auburn from the NCAA for the actions of Friend while he is a coach at Auburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligas 581 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, keesler said: Well, I feel sure his employment status at Auburn is contingent on the NCAA ruling during his time at UT. Contracts customarily have NCAA compliance clauses to protect the school, and AU would be no different. Now, rumor has it that Phil Fulmer (UT AD) wants Pruitt out badly, AND he may be stabbing Pruitt in the back so that he can fire him with cause and UT won't owe JP the buyout. Who knows what other UT coaches (Friend) could get caught up in the fallout, as Fulmer is a piece of crap and isn't beyond backstabbing a UT HC. I had heard The opposite, that Fuller likes Pruitt and despite all the calls for his firing Fuller has refused to fire his man. Who knows what’s really king on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,928 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Carnell said: I understand that but nothing can protect Auburn from the NCAA for the actions of Friend while he is a coach at Auburn. It's a risk. And after the Chuck Persons fiasco we know things happen that AU Compliance may not be able to monitor. Auburn is protected from the NCAA for any actions Friend may have incurred while he was at UT though. What he does during is employment with AU falls on Auburn, just like any other coach on our staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,928 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, dilligas said: I had heard The opposite, that Fuller likes Pruitt and despite all the calls for his firing Fuller has refused to fire his man. Who knows what’s really king on. No one knows what's going on in the dysfunctional cesspool at UT. But we ALL know Philip Fulmer can not be trusted, we saw what he did to Johnny Majors back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, keesler said: It's a risk. And after the Chuck Persons fiasco we know things happen that AU Compliance may not be able to monitor. Auburn is protected from the NCAA for any actions Friend may have incurred while he was at UT though. What he does during is employment with AU falls on Auburn, just like any other coach on our staff. That is my point. I don't believe anyone that did a proper due diligence would have come to the conclusion that this hire is acceptable. Now that he is on staff we should put serious curtailment on his recruiting activities and interaction with players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligas 581 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, dilligas said: I had heard The opposite, that Fuller likes Pruitt and despite all the calls for his firing Fuller has refused to fire his man. Who knows what’s really king on. My spell checker corrects Fullmer to Fuller. I guess it doesn’t like his name. 4 minutes ago, keesler said: No one knows what's going on in the dysfunctional cesspool at UT. But we ALL know Philip Fulmer can not be trusted, we saw what he did to Johnny Majors back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, keesler said: No one knows what's going on in the dysfunctional cesspool at UT. But we ALL know Philip Fulmer can not be trusted, we saw what he did to Johnny Majors back in the day. That is true we don't know what is going on at UT which is a good reason to question this hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,928 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Carnell said: That is my point. I don't believe anyone that did a proper due diligence would have come to the conclusion that this hire is acceptable. Now that he is on staff we should put serious curtailment on his recruiting activities and interaction with players. You may be right, I just have a hard time believing McGlynn/Greene and the dozens of other AD & Compliance folks at USC & Auburn completely overlooked the UT investigation and chose to hire the guy? IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, keesler said: You may be right, I just have a hard time believing McGlynn/Greene and the dozens of other AD & Compliance folks at USC & Auburn completely overlooked the UT investigation and chose to hire the guy? IDK I sure hope you are right because if they didn't I can here the PTBs now yelling loud that this was not their hire and the incompetence of Greene for hiring a HC that does not do background searches on his assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,928 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carnell said: I sure hope you are right because if they didn't I can here the PTBs now yelling loud that this was not their hire and the incompetence of Greene for hiring a HC that does not do background searches on his assistance. The good thing is that there's a fat staff to perform back-ground checks at AU and Rich McGlynn is a known hard-ass on compliance. Whether Friend was fully vetted, and AU received an all-clear from the UT investigator's is yet to be known? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,016 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Wait, where can I get this info about the vols?! This stuff is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butthead 525 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I suspect some tough language is being written into his contract that any finding/allegations against him while at UT would mean a void of his AU deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 1,945 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, DAG said: Wait, where can I get this info about the vols?! This stuff is hilarious LMAO. I was thinking the same thing. We have more inside sources at UT than we have at Auburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizhead 618 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: LMAO. I was thinking the same thing. We have more inside sources at UT than we have at Auburn. volnation/the vol 24/7 website/ SEC RANT....Its a bit of a looney bin up there now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyTiger 2,894 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Will you worry or not? I want Friend out there grinding to get the best. Don't get in trouble, but go get us some STUDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle79 3,569 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 If you ain't cheatin' you ain't trying. Be smart about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 13 hours ago, oracle79 said: If you ain't cheatin' you ain't trying. Be smart about it. Create layers, and then put layers between the layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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