bigbird 60,529 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Taco said: Since we’re making wild assumptions. Arnada went 3-7 last year and just won the Sugar Bowl. Does this mean Harsin’s gonna do the same? What would be said if the refs had actually made the right calls in two of those wins? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,603 Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 22 hours ago, Taco said: Since we’re making wild assumptions. Arnada went 3-7 last year and just won the Sugar Bowl. Does this mean Harsin’s gonna do the same? One can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurbis 572 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 12:30 AM, Mikey said: Besides three gimme games and three teams that Gus beat last year, who did Harsin beat? What good teams did Gus beat last year? No teams with winning records. Every loss last year was by double digits except to 2 win South Carolina which we only lost by 8. Is that what we are debating here? 6-5 in year 8 of Malzahn vs 3-7, using your metric for counting wins, in year 1 for Harsin? Is that supposed to prove we made some kind of mistake getting rid of Malzahn because he beat 6 average to terrible teams but lost to the 4 good teams and the worst team we played? How many wins do we get last year if Nix breaks his ankle and we are playing Cord Sandberg? You don't see how that injury affected the team at the end of the year and how having no proper depth at QB impacted the record this year? But I suppose the lack of depth was also Harsin's fault? Did you say Malzahn was a bad hire after 2015 in year 3 when we went 7-6, 4-6 against real teams, which is a losing season by your metric of counting wins, and 2-6 against the SEC? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednilla 5,391 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 10:55 AM, Mikey said: Clue: Turnover in personnel has been a fact of life in college football since there has been college football. Players play their years, hopefully graduate and move on with life. That's a constant. Here's our returning WR corps, scholarship players only: S. Jackson, Z. Capers, E. Canion, C. Newton, J. Johnson, T. Dawson, K. Hudson, M. Johnson, J. Evans. These are not fall-back types, most if not all had offers from other major college schools. Add transfer pickup D-Robertson and that was plenty of replacements. These guys were available for observation/training through winter workouts, spring practice and fall camp. Where was the expected "coaching up"? Hudson had normal improvement for someone going from his freshman to soph years. Who else improved? As far as the team in total goes, we had fewer losses to graduation and drop-outs than in any year I can recall. Losing starters in college football is the norm, not something to whine about. You're moving the goal posts again. You previously talked about how he got all the players back because of the COVID year. Except, no, he didn't, he lost virtually every bit of production from his receivers group. What happened this season? A plethora of drops stymied the offense. You don't think that, at the very least, the lack of experience contributed to those drops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win4AU 4,052 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Look in the SEC at Arkansas 3 wins last year to 9? Wins this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,603 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 12 hours ago, Rednilla said: You're moving the goal posts again. You previously talked about how he got all the players back because of the COVID year. Except, no, he didn't, he lost virtually every bit of production from his receivers group. What happened this season? A plethora of drops stymied the offense. You don't think that, at the very least, the lack of experience contributed to those drops? Nonsense. I'm moving nothing. We had a full set of players coming back without the virus being involved. AU lost three wide receivers. So what? All college teams lose some players, we lost fewer than most. Above I listed the returnees at the WR position. There were nine That's plenty of scholarship players to make a stew with. An initially hired WR coach had to be fired but that's got nothing to do with the quality that was on hand. A mistake in hiring may have affected their development but the players were there. Boo-hoo ing about WR moving on is nothing but excuse making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,529 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just too sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnNTexas 7,148 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, bigbird said: Just too sad Now if it was LB's numbers don't count just quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,157 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, bigbird said: Just too sad No its not "Its Wonderful" "Its Wonderful" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyinsocal 831 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Mikey said: Nonsense. I'm moving nothing. We had a full set of players coming back without the virus being involved. AU lost three wide receivers. So what? All college teams lose some players, we lost fewer than most. Above I listed the returnees at the WR position. There were nine That's plenty of scholarship players to make a stew with. An initially hired WR coach had to be fired but that's got nothing to do with the quality that was on hand. A mistake in hiring may have affected their development but the players were there. Boo-hoo ing about WR moving on is nothing but excuse making. Your #1 reason a change needed to be made. What was it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,603 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 11 hours ago, slyinsocal said: Your #1 reason a change needed to be made. What was it? Did you fail to see where I said I didn't see the won/loss record getting much better over time? With the alleged better coaching AU should have been a 10-win team this season. Sadly....that didn't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyinsocal 831 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mikey said: Did you fail to see where I said I didn't see the won/loss record getting much better over time? With the alleged better coaching AU should have been a 10-win team this season. Sadly....that didn't happen. It is sad. The new HC was supposed to achieve a 10 win season, whereas the previous HC was not expected to. So back to the reasons for the change. What specific areas were causing the W/L record not to improve? Edited January 6, 2022 by slyinsocal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,603 Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 8:34 AM, slyinsocal said: What specific areas were causing the W/L record not to improve? Dropping games to Tennessee and South Carolina. Of course, by not playing Tennessee this past season, we managed to drop one to Mississippi State, as a replacement I suppose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'viewTiger 242 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 1:47 AM, Rednilla said: Maybe Mikey secretly entered the transfer portal a year ago and is only back here to antagonize those who think "his" coach is the primary source of Auburn's down year in 2021? On 12/31/2021 at 1:47 AM, Rednilla said: Maybe Mikey secretly entered the transfer portal a year ago and is only back here to antagonize those who think "his" coach is the primary source of Auburn's down year in 2021? Maybe 'Mikey' is Gus's screen name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, C'viewTiger said: Maybe 'Mikey' is Gus's screen name? Nah. Gus actually likes football players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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