Election deniers damage U.S. reputation on the world stage, Harris says

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https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/11/kamala-harris-election-deniers-u-s-reputation-00056035

 

 

 

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Election deniers and elected officials who back rioters from the Jan. 6 insurrection are responsible for eroding the United States’ reputation on the world stage, Vice President Kamala Harris said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” set to air Sunday.

“Through the process of what we’ve been through, we’re starting to allow people to call into question our commitment to those principles,” Harris said. “And that’s a shame.”

The remark was in response to a question by host Chuck Todd about the message that internal threats to American democracy send to the outside world, part of a wide-ranging interview.

 

 

Attacks on democracy are “very dangerous, and I think it is very harmful. And it makes us weaker,” Harris said.

She recalled her time on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and said her colleagues on the committee were focused on national security threats in a nonpartisan way.

Threats to democracy from within the country should be approached in the same way — “as Americans, instead of through some partisan lens,” Harris said. But asked whether domestic threats now rival the danger of foreign terrorist threats, Harris said the two couldn’t be compared.

“Each are dangerous and extremely harmful, but they’re different,” Harris said.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) reflected on these threats Sunday in the context of the the anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Election denial and insurgent activity are worrisome, and there should be a “unity of spirit” against those ideas similar to the national unity following the 2001 attacks, he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

“The stunning thing to me is that here we are, 20 years later, and the attack on the symbol of our democracy was coming not from terrorists, but it came from literally insurgents attacking the Capitol on January 6th,” Warner said.

In her NBC interview, Harris also addressed the possibility of former President Donald Trump being prosecuted, as Trump faces a myriad of legal woes.

“People are going to demand justice,” Harris said.

The vice president declined to directly address a question from Todd about Democrats’ meddling in Republican primaries this year. National Democratic campaigners have garnered criticism for funding hard-line Republican candidates in primary elections in order to boost their own chances in the general election.

“I’m not going to tell people how to run their campaigns, Chuck,” Harris said to Todd.

The interview also covered the administration’s stance on the filibuster, the mechanism in Congress that requires a supermajority to pass many types of legislation.

Harris said that while the Biden administration supports eliminating the filibuster on abortion and voting rights, she is not comfortable getting rid of it for good.

“It is very likely” to be held in place on issues outside of abortion and voting rights, she said.

Harris declined to state whether she would support a bill by Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) that would codify the right to abortion, saying she’d “have to read it and see.”

Harris’ appearance on “Meet the Press” came at the beginning of the fall campaign crunch leading up to the November midterm elections. Republicans have been widely expected to capture the House and quite possibly the Senate, but Democrats have recently gained momentum, reflecting recent legislative and political wins for Democrats in both Congress and President Joe Biden’s administration.

 

 

[homersapien 11,373]

57 minutes ago, Auburn85 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/11/kamala-harris-election-deniers-u-s-reputation-00056035

 

 

 

 

She's absolutely correct.

We used to be the world standard for an effective working democracy. 

Election deniers are like termites eating at the foundation of our democracy.

[AU9377 4,930]

They do.  It reveals a great amount of hypocrisy.

[CoffeeTiger 5,108]

The Fact that we elected a smooth brained mouth breather in 2016 to be our President did enough damage to our international reputation. I don't think the world is surprised that his supporters aren't any better than he was.  

 

[AUFAN78 3,895]

3 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

The Fact that we elected a smooth brained mouth breather in 2016 to be our President did enough damage to our international reputation. I don't think the world is surprised that his supporters aren't any better than he was.  

 

Won't argue that, but to elect a senile man in 2020 didn't reflect well on an electorate either. Just relaying thoughts from the international community. IIWII

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3 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

Won't argue that, but to elect a senile man in 2020 didn't reflect well on an electorate either. Just relaying thoughts from the international community. IIWII

The senile thing is a bit overblown. Fox personalities have repeated it so many times, that any time that he does or says anything goofy they all just point and go "senile"......

[homersapien 11,373]

Let's not lose our perspective here.  The subject is not how fit - much less good- of a POTUS is.

It's about Trump - and a huge part of the Republican party - not accepting defeat and a peaceful transition of power.  Everything else is pure cultish fantasy.

The rest of the world - who's paying close attention - is going to see it as a sign we are no longer the standard for a stable democracy.

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22 hours ago, AU9377 said:

The senile thing is a bit overblown. Fox personalities have repeated it so many times, that any time that he does or says anything goofy they all just point and go "senile"......

The story isn't about Fox. Weak attempt. And for the LOG it's not overblown. You know it, just admit as much.

I'll give you another try, but please attempt some semblance of legitimacy. 

[AUFAN78 3,895]

1 hour ago, homersapien said:

Let's not lose our perspective here.  The subject is not how fit - much less good- of a POTUS is.

It's about Trump - and a huge part of the Republican party - not accepting defeat and a peaceful transition of power.  Everything else is pure cultish fantasy.

The rest of the world - who's paying close attention - is going to see it as a sign we are no longer the standard for a stable democracy.

Actually it is exactly that. Your attempt to frame thoughts of an international community is lame at best.

Trump is not the president. The distraction plays well to the ignorant, but not the educated.

Well, we agree, but I am quite certain for different reasons. One being some pipe dream, the other a present reality. 

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12 hours ago, homersapien said:

The rest of the world - who's paying close attention - is going to see it as a sign we are no longer the standard for a stable democracy.

Uh yeah, the rest of the world was paying close attention in 2016 as well!!!

https://gop.com/video/12-minutes-of-democrats-denying-election-results/

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11 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

The story isn't about Fox. Weak attempt. And for the LOG it's not overblown. You know it, just admit as much.

I'll give you another try, but please attempt some semblance of legitimacy. 

To be very clear, my comment was addressing exactly what I intended for it to address.  There are many in this country that, while they are not themselves senile, are challenged when it comes to filtering fact from propaganda.  It is much easier to simply accept what their chosen talking heads promote as being fact and stubbornly refuse to consider any point of view that differs from that well rooted and repeated company line.

Many simply don't have the self confidence & energy necessary to question what they are told to believe, while others are simply lazy and prefer the daily spoon feeding of sugar coated nonsense.  You can do you.  I will graciously grant you try after try, as you granted me above.

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44 minutes ago, auburn41 said:

Uh yeah, the rest of the world was paying close attention in 2016 as well!!!

https://gop.com/video/12-minutes-of-democrats-denying-election-results/

To compare one to the other is to pretend they are in some way equal one to another.  That is dishonest at best and you know it.

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4 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

To compare one to the other is to pretend they are in some way equal one to another.  That is dishonest at best and you know it.

You are right.  They don't compare.  The Dems weaponized the DOJ against a sitting President.  They spied on him and tried to take him down based on information that a paid informant to the FBI gave them, that they knew was false.  The Dems were much worse that a bunch of a**holes that went into the capital!

Edited September 14, 2022 by auburn41

[AU9377 4,930]

7 minutes ago, auburn41 said:

You are right.  They don't compare.  The Dems weaponized the DOJ against a sitting President.  They spied on him and tried to take him down based on information that a paid informant to the FBI gave them, that they knew was false.  The Dems were much worse that a bunch of a**holes that went into the capital!

Your mind is completely washed in allegiance to a pathetic cause if you actually believe that.

[CoffeeTiger 5,108]

58 minutes ago, auburn41 said:

You are right.  They don't compare.  The Dems weaponized the DOJ against a sitting President.  They spied on him and tried to take him down based on information that a paid informant to the FBI gave them, that they knew was false.  The Dems were much worse that a bunch of a**holes that went into the capital!

Loosen up the strap on your MAGA hat. It's cutting off oxygen. 

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18 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Loosen up the strap on your MAGA hat. It's cutting off oxygen. 

Not wearing a MAGA hat and never had one, but I am cloaked in what's left of the US Constitution. 

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She's 100% correct.

[AU9377 4,930]

5 minutes ago, auburn41 said:

Not wearing a MAGA hat and never had one, but I am cloaked in what's left of the US Constitution. 

Your people are attempting to throw that constitution you say that you are cloaked with out the window of a moving car. 

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1 minute ago, AU9377 said:

Your people are attempting to throw that constitution you say that you are cloaked with out the window of a moving car. 

Who are my people?

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6 minutes ago, auburn41 said:

Who are my people?

People who draw false equivalencies.

[homersapien 11,373]

14 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

Actually it is exactly that. Your attempt to frame thoughts of an international community is lame at best.

Trump is not the president. The distraction plays well to the ignorant, but not the educated.

Well, we agree, but I am quite certain for different reasons. One being some pipe dream, the other a present reality. 

Trump is running for president again on the same basis the 2020 election was bogus.

More importantly most Republicans believe him. There are many Republican nominees that actually ran on the fact they support this lie.

So your point he's not currently president is moot. 

Also many "red" states have elected election deniers in positions of authority to control the election process or have tried to modify state rules to allow for "alternative" electoral representatives elected by Republican-dominated state legislatures.  Their intentions are obvious.

That's not a mere "distraction" it's a reflection of how our democracy has already been weakened by Trump.

That's the "present reality".

Edited September 14, 2022 by homersapien

[homersapien 11,373]

2 hours ago, auburn41 said:

You are right.  They don't compare.  The Dems weaponized the DOJ against a sitting President.  They spied on him and tried to take him down based on information that a paid informant to the FBI gave them, that they knew was false.  The Dems were much worse that a bunch of a**holes that went into the capital!

Didn't watch any of the congressional Jan. 6 hearings, huh?

Trump instigated and sent those a**holes.

As for weaponizing the DOJ (bull****), it was played out in the available legal processes. (Perhaps you might recall, Republicans acquitted Trump, even when Mueller's report did not - just the opposite in fact.

Regardless, nothing's worse for our country than a violent mob trying to commit sedition. 

That you would call Mueller's investigation "worse" just shows what a delusional anti-American cultist you are.

 

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16 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Didn't watch any of the congressional Jan. 6 hearings, huh?

Trump instigated and sent those a**holes.

As for weaponizing the DOJ (bull****), it was played out in the available legal processes. (Perhaps you might recall, Republicans acquitted Trump, even when Mueller's report did not - just the opposite in fact.

Regardless, nothing's worse for our country than a violent mob trying to commit sedition. 

That you would call Mueller's investigation "worse" just shows what a delusional anti-American cultist you are.

 

Your head is so far up your a** you won't ever see daylight again!

[homersapien 11,373]

1 minute ago, auburn41 said:

Your head is so far up your a** you won't ever see daylight again!

Well at least I am not an anti-American cultist.  And you are.

[AU9377 4,930]

3 hours ago, auburn41 said:

Who are my people?

Anyone that pretends that statements of a few individuals after the 2016 election are somehow equivalent to an organized effort to install fake electors in order to change the results of the 2020 election and violently storming a joint session of congress in an attempt to halt the certification of the 2020 election.