gr82b4au 5,568 Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Old fan 47 said: Maybe, but nothing RA has done as far as being a throwing QB is worth a crap either. I mean, stick a QB in there that can run, yes, but that can’t hit a receiver 9 yards on a crossing route and what changes. No D will have or after today has any respect for our QB or the current game planning. This is another dumpster fire in the making. I’ve seen nothing thus far to change my outlook and as I have stated under other posts, higher rated recruits notice and the know they’re no longer completely locked in after 1 year. Poor coaching and team management all around. Yeah, we plucked another glorified HS coach once again, to lead what was once a respected program. Sounds like you may need to go pull for another team. This is a 3-4 year project at least. It took several years to sink this program. It will take years to fix. We will be good again as long as we keep recruiting well. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,492 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 It wont matter who the QB is until our coaches decide who and what they want us to be on offense and call plays aligned with that identity. That said, Oregon’s QB looked fabulous today. 😥 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be 14,540 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, WFE12 said: Happy for him and sad for us. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUB78 1,369 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 PT looks like a deer in the headlights, Robbie can’t throw and HG is too green. However, the play calling has been really bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Who should start ? Well you got me. We played 3 QBs. The 3 QBs combined for 9 of 23 passing (39%), 56 yds and 0 TDs. 14 incompletions occurred. 6 incompletions were thrown well over the heads of wide open WRs by the 3 QBs. 2 other incompletions hit the WR right in the hands. The QBs were sacked 7 times before they could make the pass attempt. The OL was well below average in pass protection, at best. Although the QBs are a major part of the problem it's not just them. There are several issues going on with the QBs, the OL, the WRs and yes, some of the play calling. All the issues have to be corrected in combination to make this thing work. Edited September 24, 2023 by IronMan70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,492 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, IronMan70 said: The QBs were sacked 7 times before they could make the pass attempt. Sort of true. QB indecisiveness led to several of those sacks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,028 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Robby did decent to me. He had the one over throw. Then the back shoulder to JJ . Not sure why he was the one as u needed a bigger guy. Then u had the drop by Hooks that should have been a score. The other drive was moving before PT put in on 3 and 25. Get 5 yards there to try for a FG. It seems the plays called for the QBs are the exact opposite of what they should be doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgoEagle 1,865 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Our offense is very vanilla & unimaginative. I'm not liking Montgomery at all. To me PT has had his legit shot. Robby has gotten his fair shots last year & this year and all the opposing defenses have to do is sit on him either running or handing off (not worried about him throwing at all). Holden needs to just learn on the fly how to do the intangibles and to scramble. I feel he is our only hope to have a balanced offense, which you have to have to win in the SEC. So, give Holden the same fair shot PT & RA has gotten (at least 1 half of a game to show what he can or cannot accomplish) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,277 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gowebb11 said: Sort of true. QB indecisiveness led to several of those sacks. I agree that was part of it for sure. But the TAMU DL was owning our OL on pass pro so badly, I'm sure it contributed to some of that indecisiveness. Some of their pass rushes were like a stampede, just insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, e808 said: Robby did decent to me. He had the one over throw. Then the back shoulder to JJ . Not sure why he was the one as u needed a bigger guy. Then u had the drop by Hooks that should have been a score. The other drive was moving before PT put in on 3 and 25. Get 5 yards there to try for a FG. It seems the plays called for the QBs are the exact opposite of what they should be doing The drive was moving and it was 3rd and 35? I’d say “ the drive” stopped a couple of plays earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,028 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hank2020 said: The drive was moving and it was 3rd and 35? I’d say “ the drive” stopped a couple of plays earlier. I think u needed 5 yard to get a field goal attempt . First Jimbo declined the penalty then accepted to take Auburn out of field goal range . Didn’t know Robby got hurt and that’s why PT was put back Edited September 24, 2023 by e808 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,492 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, IronMan70 said: I agree that was part of it for sure. But the TAMU DL was owning our OL on pass pro so badly, I'm sure it contributed to some of that indecisiveness. Some of their pass rushes were like a stampede, just insane. I agree with that. That’s the result of multiple 4 and 5 Star recruits rushing o linemen from E Carolina, W Kentucky, Tulsa and JUCO. Showed up big time today. Hugh has a lot to solve for the next few weeks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old fan 47 775 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, gr82b4au said: Sounds like you may need to go pull for another team. This is a 3-4 year project at least. It took several years to sink this program. It will take years to fix. We will be good again as long as we keep recruiting well. Thanks for your insight. Do you honestly think we are winning over recruits with play on the field like we’ve been seeing? Maybe you’re forgetting the fact that kids can leave after one year if they aren’t satisfied. Hope you’re right in your assessment and I’ll be sure to let you know if I Need to pull for another team. It’s my opinion, after a horrible looking showing after four games. In 3 to 4 more years, the program will be buried. Good programs don’t have one 10 win season and then never have a back to back one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,028 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, IronMan70 said: I agree that was part of it for sure. But the TAMU DL was owning our OL on pass pro so badly, I'm sure it contributed to some of that indecisiveness. Some of their pass rushes were like a stampede, just insane. I wouldn’t say own because if u had better play calling or qb play that wouldn’t be the case . They had chances just didn’t capitalize . Then u get a big run play and a penalty is thrown. At minimal clean up the penalties Edited September 24, 2023 by e808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTAU 3,362 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 51 minutes ago, ArgoEagle said: Our offense is very vanilla & unimaginative. I'm not liking Montgomery at all. To me PT has had his legit shot. Robby has gotten his fair shots last year & this year and all the opposing defenses have to do is sit on him either running or handing off (not worried about him throwing at all). Holden needs to just learn on the fly how to do the intangibles and to scramble. I feel he is our only hope to have a balanced offense, which you have to have to win in the SEC. So, give Holden the same fair shot PT & RA has gotten (at least 1 half of a game to show what he can or cannot accomplish) ObI-Wan Geriner. I like it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubaseball 2,701 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Old fan 47 said: Thanks for your insight. Do you honestly think we are winning over recruits with play on the field like we’ve been seeing? Maybe you’re forgetting the fact that kids can leave after one year if they aren’t satisfied. Hope you’re right in your assessment and I’ll be sure to let you know if I Need to pull for another team. It’s my opinion, after a horrible looking showing after four games. In 3 to 4 more years, the program will be buried. Good programs don’t have one 10 win season and then never have a back to back one. Mrs Saban, could you please get off the forum. Your point of view is not pleasant to read and doesn’t bring anything to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAU 1,343 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 It will be Thorne, but he should have a very short leash. He played timid as heck today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU120289 382 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Freeze talked about baptism by fire for the freshman and the next guys up before the A&M game. The baptism went badly. The offensive at this point is terrible - scheme, play calling, and execution. The script for the first drive of the game set the tone. I have never coached a day of football in my life, but they did nothing to help Thorne settle into the game. He also didn’t do anything to help himself. Ditto for Robbie and Holden. My gut says they don’t think they have a solution. Freeze tipped his hand talking about the talent gap during his pressers before the game, but he realized it during the Cal game. Well, you got punched in the face, your offensive baby is ugly, and these are the guys you have. What are you going to do? I don’t expect perfection. I expect competence and improvement. That might not lead to as many W’s as we want, but it should be building momentum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger1985 820 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) So from other games being played looks like we are the only ones without a competent Qb. Reminds me of when we had a Qb named Jonathan Wallace. Edited September 24, 2023 by Tigger1985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nthemix 106 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 should be Ashford but probably won’t be … I imagine PT will start i know that most will disagree but RA gives us the best shot to win each week i said it after the first game & got blasted BUT Thorne is very, VERY average 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,121 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 hours ago, WFE12 said: Watching the dumpster fire today, he definitely made the right decision in leaving for Oregon. Smart young man, I think he already has his graduate degree. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasttimes 356 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, AU120289 said: The script for the first drive of the game set the tone. I have never coached a day of football in my life, but they did nothing to help Thorne settle into the game. He also didn’t do anything to help himself. Ditto for Robbie and Holden. 1000% correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuscAUse! 1,516 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Gowebb11 said: I agree with that. That’s the result of multiple 4 and 5 Star recruits rushing o linemen from E Carolina, W Kentucky, Tulsa and JUCO. Showed up big time today. Hugh has a lot to solve for the next few weeks. Well I agree completely. After all , he's had almost a whole year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasttimes 356 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Has PT checked down once this year? Does this offense even have check downs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUINSY 2,228 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 I think Thorne is severely regretting his decision to come to Auburn, and re-evaluating his life decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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