rexbo 104 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Just listening to, I guess the noon version of, ESPN Radio on Wednesday. Dan Patrick had significant commentary on CTT blaming ESPN for the BCS mess, Dan saying it was everyone's fault but ESPN and their Gameday show; and that he was not happy with CTT taking them to task for the problem. Dan did say he would be talking to Tuberville later in the show, but alas, I had to come back to work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoJtrueAUman 4 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 oh boo hoo, I am glad CTT took it to them they deserved to be scrutinized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesfau 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Just listening to, I guess the noon version of, ESPN Radio on Wednesday. Dan Patrick had significant commentary on CTT blaming ESPN for the BCS mess, Dan saying it was everyone's fault but ESPN and their Gameday show; and that he was not happy with CTT taking them to task for the problem. Dan did say he would be talking to Tuberville later in the show, but alas, I had to come back to work... 192720[/snapback] P*ss on Dan Patrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I would say Dan Patrick is a tool but in all actuallity Dan Patrick is a TOOLS TOOL. All of these broadcasters have forgotten what side their bread is buttered on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,532 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I am glad Coach Tuberville told it "like it is". Let the chips fall where they may. I wonder how the average "on the street" Football fan feels about the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexbo 104 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 Listening at work, forgot I had a radio on my desk, and he is really letting CTT have it again; saying CTT has no right to criticize their analysts and former coaches because they are all really good at their jobs!! CTT is supposed to be on between 1 and 2 central I think. Holtz is supposed to be on too. I am really curious as to whether CTT backs up his comments... Dan Patrick Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thanks for the link....Got it on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Someone please give us an update on what was said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 nothing as of yet....Got some other goobs on there right now but Patrick keep pumping it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streyeder 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Can anyone post a direct link to the windows media player link. The site screws up my iPaq's browser b4 I can get to it. thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexbo 104 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 Patrick did talk to SI Writer Rick Reilly (I think) and asked about CTT's comments. Rick said he disgreed with CTT except for the part about ESPN being too powerful, making fun of ESPN showing LeBron's high school b'ball games and then ESPN making a huge deal about LeBron getting too much publicity... It sounds like Dan's biggest problem with CTT was his criticism of the former coaches, Holtz specifically. I think it is ludicrous to think former coaches can go on TV, get paid probably thousands and thousands of dollars, spout off complete uninformed garbage, and then not get called on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenDs 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 ....... and he is really letting CTT have it again; saying CTT has no right to criticize their analysts and former coaches because they are all really good at their jobs!! Dan Patrick Live 192732[/snapback] The members of the media can be so hypocritical. Based on that logic, the ESPN guys have no right to critisize the coaches who are really good at their jobs. Which leaves them Ron Zook I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexbo 104 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 They are realling getting into it, both are really arguing, not just making a radio interview. Dan's point is that the 'system' is flawed and CTT should be blaming the college President's. CTT agrees with that, but is arguing that since we are stuck with the current system, ESPN and the analysts should do a much better job of not being so biased for the Top 2 big name teams. CTT stood his ground well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerOne 1,307 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Finescum is probably peeing in his pants so he can add fire to this topic. counting the seconds Plus his boy shane will get extra air time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger1992 1,078 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I think CTT did a good job and kept his cool, never losing control. DP was getting riled up a few times but CTT held back and wouldn't get into a verbal slugfest with him. I'm actually surprised DP didn't ask him more directly about the Holtz comments. Of course, after the interview, the Holtz comments were some of the first things DP talked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug2003 1 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I listened to the whole interview and Tubs held his own against him. He kept pressing the point that TT was biting the hand that feeds him and Corso, Herbstriet, and company were well prepared professional analysts. He felt TT was attacking ESPN and doing so unjustly. TT fought back and I'd say the thing wound up a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexbo 104 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 What really matters out of all of this is recruiting. CTT standing his ground, backing up his players (which he did very well for last year's players, explaining that so many of them came back for the senior year and were screwed out of a shot at the NC because of the current system and the bias ESPN showed for the Top 2 teams) should score some points with those young guys out there trying to decide who to go play for. They will know that CTT will stand up for them, even against the second most powerful organization in college football, ESPN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerOne 1,307 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I think Tommy probably wasn't too convincing with his ESPN, Holtz comments. I tend to take the whole Gameday circus as pure entertainment which they do a very good job of playing good guy, bad guy. To their credit they hyped Auburn in a positive way a lot last year. Now they will spin it the other way, and ESPN probably won't see each other for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,840 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I would imagine there are 100 or more coaches out there that agree with CTT!. Probably 1,000's & 1,000's of fans that agree as well. There is absolutely NO reason that there could not be a National Championship game AFTER the bowl games. Two weeks after the bowl games let #1 & #2 play each other. Would that be a money maker for all concerned? Agree with rexbo that it could be good for recruits, they will all know he will stand up for them being able to play for the prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 21,565 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I think Tommy probably wasn't too convincing with his ESPN, Holtz comments. 192758[/snapback] We must have been listening to different interviews. CTT held his ground IMO. He said that he agreed with DP that we need a playoff and the current system sucks, but that under the system we have, the Gameday guys opinions carry too much weight. On Holtz, CTT said that the ESPN guys criticize coaches and players all the time so why can't he criticize back? Doesn't sound like backing down to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 To heck with ESPN. They will put us on no matter what is said. The old addage of winning solves everything even holds true in this. I know for a FACT Corso was escorted away from practice by Dye one particular afternoon and not allowed to return the rest of the week. Guess who moped around in their hotel room all week with no access to the coaches or players. I'd rather have a spine than be a jellyfish who is treated like a mushroom....For those of you who do not know what I mean by a "mushroom" it means you are kept in the dark and deficated upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerOne 1,307 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I just think it was a confusing interview with Patrick on the attack and TT agreeing for the most part. Holtz must have said something in particular to get called out. And now the media hacks will twist it to fit their argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUesquire 1 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have always enjoyed Dan Patrick and I'm not going to really change my opinion. He's going to defend ESPN to the high heavens and he should. CTT held his own and I commend him for having the guts to come on and defend his position. I think Dan was way too defensive during the interview and took the "Blame the system, not us" too far. He seemed on the verge of yelling throughout. In some respects, it's a no win situation. I don't think ESPN really has an "Agenda" because as Dan said, they don't get the MNC game anyway. But he was not receptive to CTT's ultimate point, which was that ESPN has to realize the incredible influence they have in the college game and their ability to sway voters in our current system and be careful with that power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 21,565 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I just think it was a confusing interview with Patrick on the attack and TT agreeingfor the most part. Holtz must have said something in particular to get called out. And now the media hacks will twist it to fit their argument. 192774[/snapback] Well, I do agree that the interview wasn't very well done on Patrick's end, but the only thing TT agreed with him on was that the system is broken and we should have a playoff, the coaches shouldn't be voting and that's not ESPN's fault. But he went on to say that we have the system we have and under these circumstances, the things that a powerful place like ESPN (particularly the Gameday crew) says will inevitably sway voters. So if the Gameday guys start hyping Texas and USC, it's going to be hard for an undefeated Va. Tech for instance, to get through that, just like it was for us last year. He also stuck to his guns on Holtz and the others that call out players and coaches and criticize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgr4lfe 220 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have always enjoyed Dan Patrick and I'm not going to really change my opinion. He's going to defend ESPN to the high heavens and he should. CTT held his own and I commend him for having the guts to come on and defend his position. I think Dan was way too defensive during the interview and took the "Blame the system, not us" too far. He seemed on the verge of yelling throughout.In some respects, it's a no win situation. I don't think ESPN really has an "Agenda" because as Dan said, they don't get the MNC game anyway. But he was not receptive to CTT's ultimate point, which was that ESPN has to realize the incredible influence they have in the college game and their ability to sway voters in our current system and be careful with that power. 192782[/snapback] I didn't get to listen, but ABC, who has rights to the NC game, is a parent company of ESPN, correct, so SXPN does have something to gain in who goes to the Rose Bowl. Not to mention their Gameday ratings. If you don't believe CBS or ESPN has any pull watch the polls.....from week to week, but look ahead to upcoming games the next week. If CBS has rights to a game featuring a ranked and an unranked team, the week before the unranked team wins, I betcha 9 times out of ten that unranked team will move into teh top 25, so CBS can then broadcast a game against TWO top 25 ranked teams. I will look for evidence...I know it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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