NY Times making war on terror tougher -

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Same place the indictments are, obviously nowhere to be found.

Post Article on Wilson BS.

Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission

Report Disputes Wilson's Claims on Trip, Wife's Role

By Susan Schmidt

Washington Post Staff Writer

Saturday, July 10, 2004; Page A09

Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, dispatched by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq sought to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program with uranium from Africa, was specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly.

Wilson Lied.

Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address.

His accusations were total crap. What he said happened was 180 degrerees from what he actually said. Wilson lies again.

Administration officials told columnist Robert D. Novak then that Wilson, a partisan critic of Bush's foreign policy , was sent to Niger at the suggestion of Plame, who worked in the nonproliferation unit at CIA. The disclosure of Plame's identity, which was classified, led to an investigation into who leaked her name.

The report may bolster the rationale that administration officials provided the information not to intentionally expose an undercover CIA employee, but to call into question Wilson's bona fides as an investigator into trafficking of weapons of mass destruction. To charge anyone with a crime, prosecutors need evidence that exposure of a covert officer was intentional.

Stupidity is not illegal it seems.

The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame "offered up" Wilson's name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA's Directorate of Operations saying her husband "has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.

Wilson has asserted that his wife was not involved in the decision to send him to Niger.

"Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson wrote in a memoir published this year. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip."

Wilson stood by his assertion in an interview yesterday, saying Plame was not the person who made the decision to send him. Of her memo, he said: "I don't see it as a recommendation to send me ."

Lies, lies, and more lies, or in Dem terms: "It all depends on what your definition of the term 'recommendation' is..."

The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong."

"Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong' when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports," the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have "misspoken" to reporters. The documents -- purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq -- were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger

Even more whopper lies by Wilson, remember this is from the Washington Post...

This is just from ONE article on the crap. Wilson lied about Plame's involvement. She was deactivated too long for the law to cover her anymore. The law also says that it had to be intentional, no one asserts that anymore. He got caught lying about seeing the documents and was EIGHT MONTHS out of sync on his time line.

The reason there were no indictments is that the laws could not be bent 100 ways to make the situation actually fit a crime.

Wilson is shown to be lying about Plame in the memo recommending him.

Wilson is shown to be lying about the documents being forged.

Wilson is shown to be lying about even having SEEN the documents.

Wilson is shown to be a lying partisan hack without much brains.

Those that quote this story are either easily duped or are themselves: "a lying partisan hack without much brains."

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It would have taken far less time, but more manhood than you can obviously muster, just to say your last rant was misplaced and you what you had said was wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrong.

Instead, you try to change the subject.

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Another Tex reply that ends up being "No Reply At All...."

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3 entries found for treason.

trea·son ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trzn)

n.

Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Main Entry: trea·son

Pronunciation: 'trEz-&noun

Function: noun

Etymology: Anglo-French treison crime of violence against a person to whom allegiance is owed, literally, betrayal, from Old French traïson, from traïr to betray, from Latin tradere to hand over, surrender

: the offense of attempting to overthrow the government of one's country or of assisting its enemies in war; specifically : the act of levying war against the United States or adhering to or giving aid and comfort to its enemies by one who owes it allegiance —trea·son·ous /-&s/ adjective

treason

n 1: a crime that undermines the offender's government [syn: high treason, lese majesty] 2: disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior [syn: subversiveness, traitorousness] 3: an act of deliberate betrayal [syn: treachery, betrayal, perfidy]

There are many who look at the NYT disclosure of the SWIFT program and the disclosure several months ago of the program listening to long distance overseas calls as both treasonous and detrimental to the war on terrorism. The NYT may be barely within the law, but that remains to be seen. The wheels of justice grind slow at times. Even if it is not declared treason, there is little doubt that the NYT was and has been operating with an agenda. It appears to me their guiding philosophy has been, National Security be damned, we will do anything and everything to bring down the Bush Administration. That probably has more to do with Tex & Al and most all other democrats, defending the NYT than any legal reality.

You say they have no agenda, I say the editors of the New York Times are in high dudgeon. The Bush administration has instituted "a major shift in intelligence gathering practices," the Times declared in an editorial.

The editors knew this wasn't true, because on May 27th, 1999, the Times printed a story by reporter Niall McKay about Echelon, a much broader electronic intercept program begun during the Clinton administration. I could find no editorials in the New York Times criticizing Echelon. Apparently, warrantless electronic intercept programs threaten civil liberties only when a Republican is president.

Journalists who are not supposed to be expressing opinions in the news columns make their views known by the term they use -- "whistle blower" -- to describe the person or persons who told the New York Times about the ultra-secret NSA program.

What, you may ask, is the difference between a whistle blower and a leaker?

A whistle blower is someone who discloses secrets helpful to Democrats or embarrassing to Republicans.

A leaker, on the other hand, is someone who discloses secrets helpful to Republicans or embarrassing to Democrats. The person or persons who told journalists that Valerie Plame, wife of Joseph C. Wilson of uranium-in-Niger fame, worked at the CIA invariably are described as "leakers."

It remains to be seen whether the person or persons who outed Ms. Plame committed a crime. It is clear that the person or persons who revealed the existence of the NSA program have done so.

And this is a crime that could have serious consequences. Those who have something to hide change their behavior when alerted they may be under surveillance. Since the New York Times story appeared, there has been a surge in the purchase of large quantities of disposable cell phones by people from the Middle East and Pakistan, ABC News reported Jan. 12th.

Disposable cell phones are popular with drug dealers and terrorists because they are all but impossible to track. Such phones were used as detonators in the Madrid train attacks in 2004.

Journalists excuse putting Americans at risk by disclosing information helpful to terrorists on the grounds of "the peoples' right to know." But "the peoples' right to know" apparently doesn't extend to major portions of the Barrett report, which is due to be released Thursday.

David Barrett is the independent counsel who investigated Henry Cisneros, secretary of housing and urban development in the Clinton administration.

Mr. Barrett reportedly found evidence of abuses of power by Clinton administration officials in the Justice department and the Internal Revenue Service.

Much of the Barrett report has been suppressed, without a murmur from journalists who complain about the NSA intercept program.

The entire Barrett report could be released without endangering national security, and it is about actual abuses of power, while critics have been unable to identify any in the NSA intercept program.

Apparently if the information is embarrassing to Democrats, the people don't have a right to know about it.

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Same place the indictments are, obviously nowhere to be found.

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It would have taken far less time, but more manhood than you can obviously muster, just to say your last rant was misplaced and you what you had said was wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrong.

Instead, you try to change the subject.

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Practice what you preach. You weren't man enough to answer my question, so you are the last person who should be casting stones.

Who was it again that changed the subject from the NYT's to Valerie Plame? It sure wasn't one of the conservatives on the board.

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Back on Plame for a second...

Just where are those indictments guys?

Since it was sssooo obvious that what we had was Plame being outed, and it is sssooo easy to get an indictment, just where are all those promised indictments of Rove?

Even Libby, who actually was indicted, was not indicted for outing Plame. he was indicted for several things, lying to investigators, etc. But not one for Plame being outed...

So where are these indictments guys?

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What is that I hear......crickets?

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What is that I hear......crickets?

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Deafening I tell you.

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Back on Plame for a second...

Just where are those indictments guys?

Since it was sssooo obvious that what we had was Plame being outed, and it is sssooo easy to get an indictment, just where are all those promised indictments of Rove?

Even Libby, who actually was indicted, was not indicted for outing Plame. he was indicted for several things, lying to investigators, etc. But not one for Plame being outed...

So where are these indictments guys?

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David, I want to retract what I said about you having the reading comprehension of my cat. My cat happened to read this forum today and was offended by the comparison.

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Much to do about notin'.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/foialeghi...20Requests).pdf

SEC. 302. RESTRICTION ON CONDUCT OF INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES.

The authorization of appropriations by this Act shall not be deemed to constitute

authority for the conduct of any intelligence activity which is not otherwise authorized by the Constitution or the laws of the United States.

Section 304—Semiannual reports on financial intelligence on terrorist

assets (FITA)

Section 304 of the bill, establishing an ongoing notification procedure

with respect to Financial Intelligence on Terrorist Assets

(FITA), is intended to assure timely Congressional oversight of national

security-related financial enforcement actions by the executive

branch, and is meant to mirror the reporting practices followed

under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

On a semiannual basis, the Secretary of Treasury shall provide

the intelligence committees, together with the Committee on Financial

Services of the House of Representatives and the Senate

Banking Committee and the Senate and House Appropriations

Committees, a report setting forth with respect to the preceding

six-month period: (1) the total number of asset seizures, designations,

and other actions against individuals or entities found to

have engaged in financial support for terrorism; (2) the total number

of applications for asset seizure and designation of individuals

or entities suspected of having engaged in financial support of terrorist

activities, that were granted, modified, or denied; (3) the

total number of physical searches of offices, residences, or financial

records of individuals or entities suspected of financial support for

terrorist activity; and, (4) whether the financial intelligence information

seized in these cases has been shared on a full and timely

basis with all departments, agencies, and other entities of the

United States Government involved in intelligence activities in the

Foreign Terrorist Asset Tracking Unit (FTAT).

Although the Committee anticipates that the semiannual FITA

reports will better inform its understanding of the actions of the

Foreign Terrorist Asset Tracking Unit and of the FTAT’s participating

agencies in the US intelligence and law enforcement communities,

the Committee is also requiring enhanced notification

procedures concerning urgent financial intelligence actions of the

executive branch, including covert actions and intelligence activities

other than covert actions, which are derived from financial intelligence

on terrorist assets and fundraising activities.

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Oh....the wound....

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Nuff said!