alexava 6,973 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Would you bound your child's hands and feet and then put them in the back of a van unrestrained? crossed my mind before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Obviously, there was some false testimony. If so, it's up to the prosecution to discredit said testimony. Since they could not, there's nothing "obvious" about it being false. Live person enters van. Dead person come out. Seems pretty obvious to me. In fact, in seems to me that one would have to be pretty determined to believe there's no responsibility associated with this. Absolutely, then the same people get upset about anybody saying black lives matter Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 It's a false premise, to suggest black lives matter, because it implies that one NEEDS to say it in order for it to be true or valid. ALL lives matter. Blacks are no more significant than anyone else. Yet somehow, stating that view is ' racist ' ? BLM was and is a poorly thought out concept. It's only gotten worse since its inception. Which was greatly founded on a LIE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Would you bound your child's hands and feet and then put them in the back of a van unrestrained? crossed my mind before. :laugh: Stay calm on that vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 It's a false premise, to suggest black lives matter, because it implies that one NEEDS to say it in order for it to be true or valid. ALL lives matter. Blacks are no more significant than anyone else. Yet somehow, stating that view is ' racist ' ? BLM was and is a poorly thought out concept. It's only gotten worse since its inception. Which was greatly founded on a LIE. http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/young-black-men-killed-us-police-highest-rate-year-1134-deaths https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over?utm_term=.smM9KrPPg#.kmAkZG00L https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/study-finds-police-fatally-shoot-unarmed-black-men-at-disproportionate-rates/2016/04/06/e494563e-fa74-11e5-80e4-c381214de1a3_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 Studies also show that blacks commit crimes at a disproportionate rate. Why is that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Studies also show that blacks commit crimes at a disproportionate rate. Why is that ? Not that disproportionate. And it's due to their socio-economic conditions. Why do you think it is, their skin color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 Socio-economic conditions, my ass. There's right and there's wrong. Period. This has nothing to do w/ skin color and everything to do w/ what is or isn't being taught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Socio-economic conditions, my ass. There's right and there's wrong. Period. This has nothing to do w/ skin color and everything to do w/ what is or isn't being taught. Actually, since we are talking about racial disparity, skin color is integral for defining the population at issue. So, if it's not socio-economic, do you think black people suffer from an inherent (racial) deficit in morality and/or responsibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Socio-economic conditions, my ass. There's right and there's wrong. Period. This has nothing to do w/ skin color and everything to do w/ what is or isn't being taught. And what exactly are the photos supposed to demonstrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptau 169 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The Baltimore circuit judge that refused to remove the prosecutor, change the venue of the trial, dismiss charges, and required 5 separate trials is also the same judge that called a miss trial on the only jury trial that ended in a hung jury. He also was the presiding judge over the bench trials that ended in acquittals. The judge is black. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bal-who-is-the-judge-in-the-freddie-gray-hearing-20150901-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The Baltimore circuit judge that refused to remove the prosecutor, change the venue of the trial, dismiss charges, and required 5 separate trials is also the same judge that called a miss trial on the only jury trial that ended in a hung jury. He also was the presiding judge over the bench trials that ended in acquittals. The judge is black. http://www.baltimore...0901-story.html The prosecutors are really incompetent. Marilyn Moseby rushed to judgement before the evidence was even in because she saw a political opportunity for herself. There's no other way to explain her statements when she was pandering to the angry mob in Baltimore about having "heard their cries for justice" and "this is your moment" blah blah blah. She grossly overcharged the officers because she had no case that she could build against them that meets the standards required to get a conviction. Im betting she wont get a single one and people in here will still be lamenting the outcome and wailing about what a great job she did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Obviously, there was some false testimony. Are you speaking to Donta Allen, the man in the van with Freddie Gray and Carol Allan the Medical Examiner who both changed their testimony after considerable time and as some have speculated pressure from the DA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Would you bound your child's hands and feet and then put them in the back of a van unrestrained? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Obviously, there was some false testimony. If so, it's up to the prosecution to discredit said testimony. Since they could not, there's nothing "obvious" about it being false. Live person enters van. Dead person come out. Seems pretty obvious to me. In fact, in seems to me that one would have to be pretty determined to believe there's no responsibility associated with this. They definitely have to take responsibility for not seat belting Freddie in the van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Obviously, there was some false testimony. "Obviously", huh? Please be specific and put forth the testimony you're referring too, wouldya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Obviously, there was some false testimony. If so, it's up to the prosecution to discredit said testimony. Since they could not, there's nothing "obvious" about it being false. Live person enters van. Dead person come out. Seems pretty obvious to me. In fact, in seems to me that one would have to be pretty determined to believe there's no responsibility associated with this. They definitely have to take responsibility for not seat belting Freddie in the van. Obviously, there was some false testimony. If so, it's up to the prosecution to discredit said testimony. Since they could not, there's nothing "obvious" about it being false. Live person enters van. Dead person come out. Seems pretty obvious to me. In fact, in seems to me that one would have to be pretty determined to believe there's no responsibility associated with this. They definitely have to take responsibility for not seat belting Freddie in the van. Even that was a new rule and its circulation to all officers wasn't exactly documented. A conviction can only come with proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Socio-economic conditions, my ass. There's right and there's wrong. Period. This has nothing to do w/ skin color and everything to do w/ what is or isn't being taught. I agree with Homer. Socioeconomic conditions play a major role in crime. Come on Raptor, not that hard to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 "Socioeconomic conditions play a major role in crime." Is this code for the perps really being the victims due to economic inequality and social injustice? The reason I ask is because that seems to be underlying reason why liberal progressives have such a permissive attitude toward criminals. Its like when the lady at the State Dept saying what we need to do to overcome terrorism is to get them jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Obviously, there was some false testimony. If so, it's up to the prosecution to discredit said testimony. Since they could not, there's nothing "obvious" about it being false. Live person enters van. Dead person come out. Seems pretty obvious to me. In fact, in seems to me that one would have to be pretty determined to believe there's no responsibility associated with this. They definitely have to take responsibility for not seat belting Freddie in the van. Obviously, there was some false testimony. If so, it's up to the prosecution to discredit said testimony. Since they could not, there's nothing "obvious" about it being false. Live person enters van. Dead person come out. Seems pretty obvious to me. In fact, in seems to me that one would have to be pretty determined to believe there's no responsibility associated with this. They definitely have to take responsibility for not seat belting Freddie in the van. Even that was a new rule and its circulation to all officers wasn't exactly documented. A conviction can only come with proof beyond a reasonable doubt. New rule or not, it seems common sense to provide safe restraint. It appears evidence presented that there was no rough ride is why there was no conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 Socio-economic conditions, my ass. There's right and there's wrong. Period. This has nothing to do w/ skin color and everything to do w/ what is or isn't being taught. Actually, since we are talking about racial disparity, skin color is integral for defining the population at issue. Why ? Why define " the population "? Why not just look at the individual ? Why must people be grouped into columns and races ? So, if it's not socio-economic, do you think black people suffer from an inherent (racial) deficit in morality and/or responsibility? How many times must I say this ? It is NOT ******* RACIAL !! Can't you get that through your gorram mind ??? We're talking about P E O P L E, not races. Do you tell folks your name when you first meet ? Or do you say " Hi. I'm European. Where are you from ? " Point is, you start excusing people's actions for their race, or their 'socio-economic ' blah blah blah , they're gonna shift any blame of their own thoughts and actions and claim victim status. " Hey, society made me this way...nuttin I can do about it. " B.S. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Would you bound your child's hands and feet and then put them in the back of a van unrestrained? Absolutely not. Then why would you do it to someone you just placed under arrest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Would you bound your child's hands and feet and then put them in the back of a van unrestrained? Absolutely not. Then why would you do it to someone you just placed under arrest? It's my opinion you shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Why are white people more likely to be serial killers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Why are white people more likely to be serial killers? They aren't necessarily, at least in proportion to their percentage of the population. http://www.statisticbrain.com/serial-killer-statistics-and-demographics/ http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/5-myths-about-serial-killers-and-why-they-persist-excerpt/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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