Base Closings...Ouch!

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WASHINGTON - A list of military facilities the Defense Department recommended for closure Friday:

Alabama:

Abbott U.S. Army Reserve Center, Tuskegee

Anderson U.S. Army Reserve Center, Troy

Armed Forces Reserve Center, Mobile

BG William P. Screws U.S. Army Reserve Center, Montgomery

Fort Ganey Army National Guard Reserve Center, Mobile

Fort Hanna Army National Guard Reserve Center, Birmingham

Gary U.S. Army Reserve Center, Enterprise

Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Montgomery

Navy Reserve Center, Tuscaloosa

The Adjutant General Bldg, AL Army National Guard, Montgomery

Wright U.S. Army Reserve Center

Alaska:

Kulis Air Guard Station

Arizona:

Air Force Research Lab, Mesa

Allen Hall Armed Forces Reserve Center, Tucson

Arkansas:

El Dorado Armed Forces Reserve Center

Stone U.S. Army Reserve Center, Pine Bluff

California:

Armed Forces Reserve Center Bell

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Oakland

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, San Bernardino

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, San Diego

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Seaside

Naval Support Activity Corona

Naval Weapons Station Seal Beach, Detachment Concord

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Encino

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Los Angeles

Onizuka Air Force Station

Riverbank Army Ammunition Plant

Connecticut:

Sgt. Libby U.S. Army Reserve Center, New Haven

Submarine Base New London

Turner U.S. Army Reserve Center, Fairfield

U.S. Army Reserve Center Maintenance Support Facility, Middletown

Delaware:

Kirkwood U.S. Army Reserve Center, Newark

Florida:

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Orlando

Navy Reserve Center, St. Petersburg

Georgia:

Fort Gillem

Fort McPherson

Inspector/Instructor, Rome

Naval Air Station Atlanta

Naval Supply Corps School, Athens

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Columbus

Hawaii:

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Honokaa

Idaho:

Navy Reserve Center, Pocatello

Illinois:

Armed Forces Reserve Center, Carbondale

Navy Reserve Center, Forest Park

Indiana:

Navy Marine Corps Reserve Center, Grissom Air Reserve Base, Bunker Hill

Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Indianapolis

Navy Reserve Center, Evansville

Newport Chemical Depot

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Lafayette

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Seston

Iowa:

Navy Reserve Center, Cedar Rapids

Navy Reserve Center, Sioux City

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Dubuque

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Kansas:

Kansas Army Ammunition Plant

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Kentucky:

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Paducah

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Lexington

Navy Reserve Center, Lexington

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Louisville

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Maysville

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Louisiana:

Baton Rouge Army National Guard Reserve Center

Naval Support Activity, New Orleans

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Baton Rouge

Roberts U.S. Army Reserve Center, Baton Rouge

Maine:

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Limestone

Naval Reserve Center, Bangor

Naval Shipyard Portsmouth, Kittery

Maryland:

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Patuxent River

Navy Reserve Center, Adelphi

Pfc. Flair U.S. Army Reserve Center, Frederick

Massachusetts:

Malony U.S. Army Reserve Center

Otis Air Guard Base

Westover U.S. Army Reserve Center, Citopee

Michigan:

Navy Reserve Center Marquette

Parisan U.S. Army Reserve Center, Lansing

Selfridge Army Activity

W.K. Kellogg Airport Air Guard Station

Minnesota:

Navy Reserve Center Duluth

Mississippi:

Mississippi Army Ammunition Plant

Naval Station, Pascagoula

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Vicksburg

Missouri:

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Jefferson Barracks

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Kansas City

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, St. Louis

Marine Corps Support Center, Kansas City

Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Kansas

Navy Reserve Center, Cape Girardeau

Montana:

Galt Hall U.S. Army Reserve Center, Great Falls

Nebraska:

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Columbus

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Grand Island

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Kearny

Naval Recruiting District Headquarters, Omaha

Navy Reserve Center, Lincoln

Nevada:

Hawthorne Army Depot

New Hampshire:

Doble U.S. Army Reserve Center, Portsmouth

Naval Shipyard Portsmouth

New Jersey:

Fort Monmouth

Inspector/Instructor Center, West Trenton

Kilmer U.S. Army Reserve Center, Edison

New Mexico:

Cannon Air Force Base

Jenkins Armed Forces Reserve Center, Albuquerque

New York:

Armed Forces Reserve Center, Amityville

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Niagra Falls

Carpenter U.S. Army Reserve Center, Poughkeepsie

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Rome

Navy Recruiting District Headquarters, Buffalo

Navy Reserve Center Glenn Falls

Navy Reserve Center Horsehead

Navy Reserve Center Watertown

Niagra Falls International Airport Air Guard Station

North Carolina:

Navy Reserve Center, Asheville

Niven U.S. Army Reserve Center, Albemarle

Ohio:

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Mansfield

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Westerville

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Dayton

Mansfield Lahm Municipal Airport Air Guard Station

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Akron

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Cleveland

Parrott U.S. Army Reserve Center, Kenton

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Whitehall

Oklahoma:

Armed Forces Reserve Center Broken Arrow

Armed Forces Reserve Center Muskogee

Army National Guard Reserve Center Tishomingo

Krowse U.S. Army Reserve Center, Oklahoma City

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Tulsa

Oklahoma City (95th)

Pennsylvania:

Bristol

Engineering Field Activity Northeast

Kelly Support Center

Naval Air Station Willow Grove

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Reading

North Penn U.S. Army Reserve Center, Morristown

Pittsburgh International Airport Air Reserve Station

Serrenti U.S. Army Reserve Center, Scranton

U.S. Army Reserve Center Bloomsburg

U.S. Army Reserve Center Lewisburg

U.S. Army Reserve Center Williamsport

W. Reese U.S. Army Reserve Center/OMS, Chester

Puerto Rico:

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Humacao

Lavergne U.S. Army Reserve Center, Bayamon

Rhode Island:

Harwood U.S. Army Reserve Center, Providence

USARC Bristol

South Carolina:

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, Charleston

South Naval Facilities Engineering Command

South Dakota:

Ellsworth Air Force Base

Tennessee:

U.S. Army Reserve Area Maintenance Support Facility, Kingsport

Texas:

Army National Guard Reserve Center No. 2, Dallas

Army National Guard Reserve Center (Hondo Pass), El Paso

Army National Guard Reserve Center, California Crossing

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Ellington

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Lufkin

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Marshall

Army National Guard Reserve Center, New Braunfels

Brooks City Base

Defense Finance and Accounting Service, San Antonio

Lone Star Army Ammunition Plant

Naval Station, Ingleside

Navy Reserve Center, Lubbock

Navy Reserve Center, Orange

Red River Army Depot

U.S. Army Reserve Center No. 2, Houston

Utah:

Deseret Chemical Depot

Virginia:

Fort Monroe

Washington:

1LT Richard H. Walker U.S. Army Reserve Center

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Everett

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Tacoma

U.S. Army Reserve Center, Fort Lawton

Vancouver Barracks

West Virginia:

Bias U.S. Army Reserve Center, Huntington

Fairmont U.S. Army Reserve Center

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Moundsville

Wisconsin:

Gen. Mitchell International Airport ARS

Navy Reserve Center, La Crosse

Navy-Marine Corps Reserve Center, Madison

Olson U.S. Army Reserve Center, Madison

U.S. Army Reserve Center, O'Connell

Wyoming:

Army Aviation Support Facility, Cheyenne

Army National Guard Reserve Center, Thermopolis

[AUJarhead 70]

I'm honestly shocked at the number of guard/reserve bases closing. Both bases that I was assigned to in the reserves are on the list to be closed. It's one thing to be in the reserves and have an hour ot two drive to drill, but I wonder if the pentagon put any thought into what will happen if they make these reservists travel further for drill weekend?

Al, Ranger, or GoAU, do you know what the army will do with the units from these closed bases? I'm not in contact with any of the Marines that I drilled with, so I don't have any idea what would happen.

Thankfully, Scott Air Force Base, just outside of St Louis, avoided the cut. Scott AFB is the 2nd largest employer in the STL metro area.

[TexasTiger 13,028]

We have the greatest reliance on the Guard and Reserve than we've ever had, and we close more bases making it harder for folks to serve. We greatly increase our defense budget and engage in deficit spending not to make ourselves safer, but rather to line the pockets of Bush supporters. Don't believe me, follow the money. Millions of dollars unaccounted for in Iraq and the "conservatives" don't care. The congress looks the other way. I know, more excuses, no accountability.

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We have the greatest reliance on the Guard and Reserve than we've ever had, and we close more bases making it harder for folks to serve.  We greatly increase our defense budget and engage in deficit spending not to make ourselves safer, but rather to line the pockets of Bush supporters.  Don't believe me, follow the money.  Millions of dollars unaccounted for in Iraq and the "conservatives" don't care.  The congress looks the other way.  I know, more excuses, no accountability.

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Site claiming Billions missing from Ed Budget

The report, "Government at the Brink," issued in June by the Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, says that the Education Department reported in its financial statements that it had $7.5 billion in the bank when it actually owed that money to the U.S. Treasury. This means that the department's books are off by $15 billion, about a third of what it spends annually. But this isn't just a case of bad accounting. Education department whistleblower John Gard suspects that "senior management officials" in the department had been "setting up the Agency to rip it off" and that millions of dollars or more have been embezzled. Gard says there was no security over the system to prevent embezzlement and no audit trail to find out where the money was going.

There were $100Ms missing in the last Clinton Education Budget, no receipts at all, no one cared then either.

I suggest we find all taxpayer monies and squeeze the Fed Govt for more every day.

[Ranger12 46]

TexasTiger...don't even try to go there about Bush making it harder on the guard and reserves. I served during the Clinton years and the reason we rely on the guard/reserves and the reason the military is stretched so thin now is because of all the military downsizing that Clinton did!!!

Anyway, Congress basically dictates that the current administration, regardless of who it is, makes some sort of closing recommendations. You make accusations that the Bush admin is targeting the guard/reserves who we rely on heavily, but would you rather him target the full-time branches? You would then say "why is the Bush administration targeted our full-time military, which is stretched so thin?". Damned if he does, damned if he don't, so please save the bs.

AUJarhead, as far as I know if your bases are closed and there is not a base within a certain radius for you to be able to continue your obligation, they will let you out of the rest of your contract. However, with us in a "stop-loss" situation, that may not apply. I do know that if they require you to drive a long distance, they will pay to put you up in a hotel for the weekend if necessary if billeting is not available where you will be pulling duty.

[TexasTiger 13,028]

TexasTiger...don't even try to go there about Bush making it harder on the guard and reserves. I served during the Clinton years and the reason we rely on the guard/reserves  and the reason the military is stretched so thin now is because of all the military downsizing that Clinton did!!!

Anyway, Congress basically dictates that the current administration, regardless of who it is, makes some sort of closing recommendations. You make accusations that the Bush admin is targeting the guard/reserves who we rely on heavily, but would you rather him target the full-time branches? You would then say "why is the Bush administration targeted our full-time military, which is stretched so thin?". Damned if he does, damned if he don't, so please save the bs.

AUJarhead, as far as I know if your bases are closed and there is not a base within a certain radius for you to be able to continue your obligation, they will let you out of the rest of your contract. However, with us in a "stop-loss" situation, that may not  apply. I do know that if they require you to drive a long distance, they will pay to put you up in a hotel for the weekend if necessary if billeting is not available where you will be pulling duty.

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Amazing how Clinton is still responsible for everthing unpleasant and Bush is responsible for nothing. So Clinton was responsible for inheriting Bush I and Def. Sec. Cheney's downsizing plans (do some homework), and he's still responsible for the choices Bush has made.

WARNING:

I am about to disrupt your delusion with actual facts:

With Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld looking to significantly shrink the nation's military infrastructure, experts agree California cannot hope to escape unscathed.

"I don't think it's a realistic scenario, personally, to think that no base will be closed. But we're just hoping for the best," said Jim Spagnole, director of the state's Office of Military and Aerospace Support.

Base Realignment and Closure, or BRAC, is part of the military's ongoing attempt to transform itself to meet post-Cold War needs.

Closing bases is expected to save money over the long run. Base realignments are aimed at advancing the ability of the military services to operate and train together.

Rumsfeld has until May 16 to recommend which bases should be closed or realigned in the upcoming round, but Pentagon officials have indicated the list will be released sometime this week.

Rumsfeld's recommendations will go to the independent Base Closing and Realignment Commission, which will submit its own list to President Bush by Sept. 8. The president can either accept or reject the list in its entirety. Congress must then make the same choice.

Because it will take seven votes on the nine-member commission to take a base off Rumsfeld's list - more than the simple majority required in past base closing rounds - communities' first hope is not to be on it at all.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ia/11596971.htm

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is proposing to close and shrink hundreds of bases to create a leaner, more cost-effective force. If accepted, the plan would alter the domestic military landscape and greatly affect the four services branches and communities that are home to the installations.

Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are to testify Monday before a congressionally chartered commission that will review the base-closing proposal before sending it to President Bush this fall.

The plan recommends closing or reducing forces at 62 major bases and reconfiguring hundreds of others — 775 "minor closures and realignments" to be exact — to save billions of dollars a year.

Seeking to free up money to improve warfighting capabilities, the Pentagon wants to eliminate inefficient bases, streamline services and promote "jointness" among the military branches. At the same time, the military is trying to reposition troops — in the United States and abroad — to face current threats.

"The president charged the secretary with moving our military into the 21st century and moving us beyond the Cold War. This is a significant part of that," said Powell Moore, an assistant defense secretary during Bush's first term.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/13/politics/main695183.shtml

Civics lesson: The defense secretary is appointed by and reports to the President.