Hank2020 3,228 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, I_M4_AU said: What other choice does Auburn have other than to participate in the system? Not participate. What would they lose? Just money in the end. I’m not saying they should, But if they actually believed it would be better they would. They haveUAB as the example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 8,130 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hank2020 said: Not participate. What would they lose? Just money in the end. I’m not saying they should, But if they actually believed it would be better they would. They haveUAB as the example. Is that really a choice though? Especially if you want to remain relevant in today’s college football landscape? Auburn would become persona non grata in the SEC and would actually turn into UAB, that is what Auburn could loose. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said: Is that really a choice though? Especially if you want to remain relevant in today’s college football landscape? Auburn would become persona non grata in the SEC and would actually turn into UAB, that is what Auburn could loose. JMO. I think we really agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, jluvah said: Yeah, big “ freedoms” guy here. Also big on getting into college if you’ve earned it. We’ve already dumbed down college entrance acceptance for athletes. Let’s pay them for it now. Not like a free education isn’t worth anything. I’d bet you’re a socialist where everybody gets a share of the pie whether they work for it or not That’s a ridiculous jump to a ridiculous conclusion IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 45 minutes ago, jluvah said: Yeah, big “ freedoms” guy here. Also big on getting into college if you’ve earned it. We’ve already dumbed down college entrance acceptance for athletes. Let’s pay them for it now. Not like a free education isn’t worth anything. I’d bet you’re a socialist where everybody gets a share of the pie whether they work for it or not This is just the opposite of what you describe. This actually finally people getting what they work so hard to get, and having a say in their own future. If those things threaten AU football, so be it IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo 8,055 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 46 minutes ago, W.E.D said: This guy is big mad. Yelling about socialism and complaining about certain people 😉 making money off the free market. Stay consistent Still trying to figure out what Ben Carson has to do with a football player transferring to a different college. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, cbo said: Still trying to figure out what Ben Carson has to do with a football player transferring to a different college. Just unconnected rhetoric IMO, probably most of this belongs elsewhere so I better shut up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo 8,055 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Hank2020 said: Just unconnected rhetoric IMO, probably most of this belongs elsewhere so I better shut up. Yeah, I'm trying to hold my tongue too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, cbo said: Yeah, I'm trying to hold my tongue too. Obviously I need to try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keywest 138 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 54 minutes ago, W.E.D said: Not doubting you, but that seems high. According to SEC Commissioner: "Some athletes get snapped up quickly by coaches. But for others the future is uncertain. Many lose their scholarships, says Southeastern Conference Commissioner Greg Sankey, who noted in July 2021 that roughly 13,000 Division I student-athletes had entered the portal and that 11,000 remained without a new team." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, cbo said: Yeah, I'm trying to hold my tongue too. Them true colors will ALWAYS come out. It's just funny what can get a person upset and what they will have absolutely no problem about. But oh well! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, cbo said: Still trying to figure out what Ben Carson has to do with a football player transferring to a different college. I'm trying to figure out why ever college football athlete is poor and with s***ty grades 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, cole256 said: Them true colors will ALWAYS come out. It's just funny what can get a person upset and what they will have absolutely no problem about. But oh well! This guys is definitely a "I only want players who love Auburn and want to be here" type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo 8,055 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, cole256 said: Them true colors will ALWAYS come out. It's just funny what can get a person upset and what they will have absolutely no problem about. But oh well! It's weird when people clearly dislike the players as a whole, but they follow the sport closely enough to post about it on a message board. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 13 hours ago, TigerPAC said: The cluster that no one wanted but everyone saw coming except ones who “make the rules” I wanted this. A lot of people wanted this. Most of the players we all claim to support wanted this. And yes, we all saw some growing pains coming. Some of you evidently mistook them for being larger problems than players having no control over their careers and being subject to the whims of coaches and those who hire and fire them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, cbo said: It's weird when people clearly dislike the players as a whole, but they follow the sport closely enough to post about it on a message board. The contempt people have for players who now have the ability to do things they've been restricted from doing before is just freaking amazing. I don't get it nor probably never will. How dare a kid be able to make money? Probably makes more money than most ppl posting about it so they are jealous, mad, etc How dare they get into school? Guess they had a kid who couldn't get into Auburn being below average in their privileged household, so super mad Isn't a college education enough? My kid's college is expensive and I'm mad that I have to pay for it. How dare they have the ability to transfer!!!! It hurts my university, so eff these kids 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,779 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Hank2020 said: Just like there is a backlog of players seeking a scholly coming out if HS. The difference is, the college players entering the portal are dumping a very valuable scholarship. The typical high schooler who doesn't get offers can pick a different life-course. He/she hasn't had an opportunity and elected to abandon it as the portal player has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaolgatiger 523 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Selective freedoms from some of you is rich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casatiger 514 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, keywest said: I saw one CFB talking head discussing this and he stated 75% of players entering the transfer portal don't find a new home and their career is OVER! That is over all of college football. Power 5 is actually a little better for the athlete but your point is still valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Are y'all sure the players are actually ending their careers, or are they just not actually transferring? I mean, this *is* a thread devoted to a kid who tested the waters and then withdrew from the portal and who is still on his team. Just wanted to make sure we're all clear on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo 8,055 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, McLoofus said: Are y'all sure the players are actually ending their careers, or are they just not actually transferring? I mean, this *is* a thread devoted to a kid who tested the waters and then withdrew from the portal and who is still on his team. Just wanted to make sure we're all clear on that. And how many of the transfers were "nudged" by their coaches to leave? We will never know, but it happens all the time. The coaches may have decided their playing careers were already over, so this at least gives them another chance. Oh, and non-athletes frequently change schools. No one has a problem with that. "The NCAA has studied the issue of student-athlete transfers. A 2020 poll conducted by Gallup for the NCAA found that "a smaller proportion of NCAA student-athletes (22%) than non-athletes (38%) transferred to the institution from which they graduated." Edited January 14, 2022 by cbo typo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, Mikey said: The difference is, the college players entering the portal are dumping a very valuable scholarship. The typical high schooler who doesn't get offers can pick a different life-course. He/she hasn't had an opportunity and elected to abandon it as the portal player has. The only option I see to remedy your proposed problem is to make them stay at a place they obviously don’t want to be at for whatever reason. If a player for us chooses to move on, it is unlikely they will not pick up a scholly at some college, just maybe not in SEC though. Meanwhile coaches always have the option to tell them to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuscAUse! 1,516 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) Two things; 1) The numbers that keywest stated above jibe with those that the Jox bunch and the XM college shows use when discussing the portal. It would seem that for most players, it's not a wonderful thing when they make the decision to enter the portal and drop their scholarship. It is obviously great for the top players. 2) Is Reed still on the team? Is he expected to stay? Edited January 14, 2022 by JuscAUse! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle79 3,569 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, McLoofus said: a kid who tested the waters and then withdrew from the portal and who is still on his team Are we for sure he is still on the team? 1 hour ago, cbo said: "The NCAA has studied the issue of student-athlete transfers. A 2020 poll conducted by Gallup for the NCAA found that "a smaller proportion of NCAA student-athletes (22%) than non-athletes (38%) transferred to the institution from which they graduated." I would bet that 22% increases now that you don't have to sit for a year on your first transfer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo 8,055 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, oracle79 said: Are we for sure he is still on the team? I would bet that 22% increases now that you don't have to sit for a year on your first transfer. I am sure it has increased, which has probably put it in the same ballpark as non-athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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