WinCrimson 61 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Here he was one of only 40 Senators to vote to repeal the 10% renewables requirement. 10 "maverick" Republicans voted no. This post isn't being created to tackle his position, but the reasons why he would deceive over something that obviously isn't true. Yet, in an attempt to garner the support of Independents, he spits out a slick tv spot. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00055 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 McCain has always leaned towards the side of being environmental friendly. He's wrong on Global Warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,407 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Was this before or after he flip flopped on his offshore drilling position? I can't keep up with him anymore...one minute he's an environmentalist chasing independents with ads like these and the next he's appealing to the conservatives and in lock-step with Bush about drilling. Will the real John McCain please stand up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Was this before or after he flip flopped on his offshore drilling position? I can't keep up with him anymore...one minute he's an environmentalist chasing independents with ads like these and the next he's appealing to the conservative and in lock-step with Bush about drilling. Will the real John McCain please stand up? So you aren't allowed to change your position when dire circumstances present themselves? I'll bet there's a LOOOOOOT of democrats who would switch their position on drilling if gas was $25 a gallon. He just has a lower ceiling for that position. Over the last few years, the situation has DRASTICALLY changed. When oil was $20 a BARRELLLLLLLLL. I didn't have a problem with us NOT doing any drilling offshore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,407 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Was this before or after he flip flopped on his offshore drilling position? I can't keep up with him anymore...one minute he's an environmentalist chasing independents with ads like these and the next he's appealing to the conservative and in lock-step with Bush about drilling. Will the real John McCain please stand up? So you aren't allowed to change your position when dire circumstances present themselves? I'll bet there's a LOOOOOOT of democrats who would switch their position on drilling if gas was $25 a gallon. He just has a lower ceiling for that position. Over the last few years, the situation has DRASTICALLY changed. When oil was $20 a BARRELLLLLLLLL. I didn't have a problem with us NOT doing any drilling offshore. Of course, we don't have to look too far back in history to see the irony and hypocrisy in this argument from the Right....oh how I enjoy these games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,862 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Was this before or after he flip flopped on his offshore drilling position? I can't keep up with him anymore...one minute he's an environmentalist chasing independents with ads like these and the next he's appealing to the conservative and in lock-step with Bush about drilling. Will the real John McCain please stand up? He can't remember last weeks' positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Of course, we don't have to look too far back in history to see the irony and hypocrisy in this argument from the Right....oh how I enjoy these games... I've already said the repubs are to blame as well. The only difference I see...is that faced with 5,10,20 dollar a gallon gas...they are willing to adjust their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,862 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Of course, we don't have to look too far back in history to see the irony and hypocrisy in this argument from the Right....oh how I enjoy these games... I've already said the repubs are to blame as well. The only difference I see...is that faced with 5,10,20 dollar a gallon gas...they are willing to adjust their position. What's the adjustment? Most Republicans have always been for more drilling. Get rid of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_loophole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,027 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Of course, we don't have to look too far back in history to see the irony and hypocrisy in this argument from the Right....oh how I enjoy these games... I've already said the repubs are to blame as well. The only difference I see...is that faced with 5,10,20 dollar a gallon gas...they are willing to adjust their position. And 10 - 20 years down the road, the dims will still be blaming Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,862 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Of course, we don't have to look too far back in history to see the irony and hypocrisy in this argument from the Right....oh how I enjoy these games... I've already said the repubs are to blame as well. The only difference I see...is that faced with 5,10,20 dollar a gallon gas...they are willing to adjust their position. And 10 - 20 years down the road, the dims will still be blaming Bush. Just because 28 years down the road, your still blaming Carter? Truth is, if Reagan hadn't scrapped Carter's energy independence plan, we'd be there by now. Reagan catered to the folks like BG who think they deserve cheap gas so they can waste it. As a result, Wahhabism has been fueled for years. We are where we are because too many folks think like BG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Just because 28 years down the road, your still blaming Carter? Truth is, if Reagan hadn't scrapped Carter's energy independence plan, we'd be there by now. Reagan catered to the folks like BG who think they deserve cheap gas so they can waste it. As a result, Wahhabism has been fueled for years. We are where we are because too many folks think like BG. Waste it? Americans can be as oil conservative as possible...but as you guys keep telling us, it's a global market. Demand is already going down in the US...but it doesn't matter. It's a global market. I don't want to waste it. I drive a car that gets 30mpg, and for the last 3 years, I've put no more than 7k miles on it per year. And frankly, I wouldn't even care about oil prices if it were just the squeeze at the pump. I can pay $4 a gallon for gas. It's the food and CPI that worries me. Before you talk to me about "waste", why don't you address your boy Al Gore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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