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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

what message does the multi-millions dollar contract send? just sayin'

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

Hiring Petrino could certainly set a precident that the administration may not want to deal with. And I just don't see how the AU President or AD could ever know if BP was telling the truth and being honest and straight up with them.

Would AU have to hire a private investigator to montior the head coaches actions like they hired the agency to montior our players actions & curfew? WOW that would be weird, having to keep your head coach under surveillance at least for a time in order to protect the University from any monkey buisness the coach might be getting into. :dead:

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

"I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I'm working hard to save my marriage. I'm working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That's my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I've made mistakes and I'm going to be a better person for it. … I think I've got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I'm also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again."

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

+1. Beat me to it Bro.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

It is a vote of confidence from the commissioner and a stamp of approval to any school IMO as well.

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The multi million dollar contracts sends the message that Auburn is willing to pay the going market rate for a top notch football coach. Not sure what that has to do with the point about hiring Petrino puts Gouge in a very difficult situation with the rest of his employees. Professors, secretarys, counselors etc are all paid whatever their profession calls for. If science professors were bringing in 90,000 people to hear there lectures every week and buying science professor merchandies Im sure they would make more than they do.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

"I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I'm working hard to save my marriage. I'm working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That's my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I've made mistakes and I'm going to be a better person for it. … I think I've got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I'm also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again."

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

+1. Beat me to it Bro.

Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand your point. How does Slive's approval quell Gouge's fears about having to answer to his own employees?? Especially in the off-chance Petrino did screw up again?

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The multi million dollar contracts sends the message that Auburn is willing to pay the going market rate for a top notch football coach. Not sure what that has to do with the point about hiring Petrino puts Gouge in a very difficult situation with the rest of his employees. Professors, secretarys, counselors etc are all paid whatever their profession calls for. If science professors were bringing in 90,000 people to hear there lectures every week and buying science professor merchandies Im sure they would make more than they do.

I find it hard to believe that the faculty, janitors, etc feel they will ever be treated equally to the HFC. And if there were professors that were doing tremendous research and earning extraordinary grants for the university, I am sure they would be given a little more leeway than the average university employee. This is how the world works. Nothing is fair and nothing is uniform in how people are treated. Those with exceptional talents and skills are almost always given more freedom and flexibility in their endeavours and it is accepted within our society.

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The multi million dollar contracts sends the message that Auburn is willing to pay the going market rate for a top notch football coach. Not sure what that has to do with the point about hiring Petrino puts Gouge in a very difficult situation with the rest of his employees. Professors, secretarys, counselors etc are all paid whatever their profession calls for. If science professors were bringing in 90,000 people to hear there lectures every week and buying science professor merchandies Im sure they would make more than they do.

I find it hard to believe that the faculty, janitors, etc feel they will ever be treated equally to the HFC. And if there were professors that were doing tremendous research and earning extraordinary grants for the university, I am sure they would be given a little more leeway than the average university employee. This is how the world works. Nothing is fair and nothing is uniform in how people are treated. Those with exceptional talents and skills are almost always given more freedom and flexibility in their endeavours and it is accepted within our society.

I agree with everything you stated here so Im not sure where me and you are disagreeing about Gouge's problems with hiring Petrino.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

"I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I'm working hard to save my marriage. I'm working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That's my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I've made mistakes and I'm going to be a better person for it. … I think I've got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I'm also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again."

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

+1. Beat me to it Bro.

Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand your point. How does Slive's approval quell Gouge's fears about having to answer to his own employees?? Especially in the off-chance Petrino did screw up again?

I don't even know why Slive need to be involved at all?

Did Slive interview Stoops before Kentucky hired him? Does he plan to screen any of Tennessee's or Arkansas's coaching candidates?

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

"I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I'm working hard to save my marriage. I'm working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That's my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I've made mistakes and I'm going to be a better person for it. … I think I've got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I'm also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again."

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

+1. Beat me to it Bro.

Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand your point. How does Slive's approval quell Gouge's fears about having to answer to his own employees?? Especially in the off-chance Petrino did screw up again?

I don't even know why Slive need to be involved at all?

Did Slive interview Stoops before Kentucky hired him? Does he plan to screen any of Tennessee's or Arkansas's coaching candidates?

Yes, this. Why would Slive be involved? He is not Roger Goodell. MAYBE if Auburn wanted to hire Tressel then Slive MIGHT need to be involved because of the show cause on Tressel but Im not even sure he would then.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

what message does the multi-millions dollar contract send? just sayin'

we differ from this above... I feel that there are workplace standards for the janitors, faculty and counserlors, etc and then there are standards for the HFC. They do not have the exact same standards. The HFC will have a little more leeway with some things and probably will be much more harshly scrutinized in other areas.

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I'll just say again... while Petrino is not my first choice, I don't have the same fear as many seem to have. He has at least shown some contrition and made efforts to reconcile his marriage... and I think that is a good thing. He messed up... and he knows it.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

what message does the multi-millions dollar contract send? just sayin'

we differ from this above... I feel that there are workplace standards for the janitors, faculty and counserlors, etc and then there are standards for the HFC. They do not have the exact same standards. The HFC will have a little more leeway with some things and probably will be much more harshly scrutinized in other areas.

The HFC is the face of the university to most of the world even though he shouldn't be. There must be different standards but all must obey the law.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

what message does the multi-millions dollar contract send? just sayin'

we differ from this above... I feel that there are workplace standards for the janitors, faculty and counserlors, etc and then there are standards for the HFC. They do not have the exact same standards. The HFC will have a little more leeway with some things and probably will be much more harshly scrutinized in other areas.

Ok, I can see your point on that and I agree to some degree. Again, Im not trying to justify whether or not to hire BP but this was my opinion on why Gouge wouldn't do it. I could be proven wrong of course and it would make for a very interesting press conference.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

what message does the multi-millions dollar contract send? just sayin'

we differ from this above... I feel that there are workplace standards for the janitors, faculty and counserlors, etc and then there are standards for the HFC. They do not have the exact same standards. The HFC will have a little more leeway with some things and probably will be much more harshly scrutinized in other areas.

The HFC is the face of the university to most of the world even though he shouldn't be. There must be different standards but all must obey the law.

not to nitpick, but gary pinkel got a dui and still kept his job. rick pitino had the sex scandal and still kept his job. There are exceptions.

the press conference will be interesting no matter what at this point. I am pretty sure there will be mixed reactions no matter who is hired. There are a few names that I think the fan base can rally around (Gundy for example) and anyone else will leave us fighting amongst ourselves.

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"not to nitpick, but gary pinkel got a dui and still kept his job. rick pitino had the sex scandal and still kept his job. There are exceptions.

the press conference will be interesting no matter what at this point. I am pretty sure there will be mixed reactions no matter who is hired. There are a few names that I think the fan base can rally around (Gundy for example) and anyone else will leave us fighting amongst ourselves." -autodd03

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

“I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I’m working hard to save my marriage. I’m working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That’s my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I’ve made mistakes and I’m going to be a better person for it. … I think I’ve got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I’m also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again.”

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

what message does the multi-millions dollar contract send? just sayin'

we differ from this above... I feel that there are workplace standards for the janitors, faculty and counserlors, etc and then there are standards for the HFC. They do not have the exact same standards. The HFC will have a little more leeway with some things and probably will be much more harshly scrutinized in other areas.

The HFC is the face of the university to most of the world even though he shouldn't be. There must be different standards but all must obey the law.

not to nitpick, but gary pinkel got a dui and still kept his job. rick pitino had the sex scandal and still kept his job. There are exceptions.

the press conference will be interesting no matter what at this point. I am pretty sure there will be mixed reactions no matter who is hired. There are a few names that I think the fan base can rally around (Gundy for example) and anyone else will leave us fighting amongst ourselves.

All the pressn conferences will be interesting for a while. How ebarrassed will Petrino be about everything?

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I'm a little concerned the Petrino will decline our offer based on our lack of productive talent.

Petrino will not decline any offer to be a HC. He's currently unemployed, that would make zero sense. He will take a HC job whether he plan on staying long term or not.

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I'm a little concerned the Petrino will decline our offer based on our lack of productive talent.

if he is offered formally and he declines the offer, I think it will be due to too many conditions within the contract. We could get outbid by another school i suppose. We have as much or more talent on the roster as arkansas had when he took over there.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

"I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I'm working hard to save my marriage. I'm working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That's my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I've made mistakes and I'm going to be a better person for it. … I think I've got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I'm also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again."

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

+1. Beat me to it Bro.

Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand your point. How does Slive's approval quell Gouge's fears about having to answer to his own employees?? Especially in the off-chance Petrino did screw up again?

I don't even know why Slive need to be involved at all?

Did Slive interview Stoops before Kentucky hired him? Does he plan to screen any of Tennessee's or Arkansas's coaching candidates?

It's posturing...if they hire BP they need to have their prospective ducks in a row.

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I'm a little concerned the Petrino will decline our offer based on our lack of productive talent.

There is way more potential talent on Auburns roster than Petrino has had. We just have not turned the potential into real talent. Our recruiting classes are rated way better than Petrino's. This is way many people think Petrino could take our existing roster and do wonders with it. Petrino is not my 1st choice but I bet he could turn our commit JJ into an NFL QB.

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

"I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I'm working hard to save my marriage. I'm working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That's my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I've made mistakes and I'm going to be a better person for it. … I think I've got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I'm also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again."

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

+1. Beat me to it Bro.

Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand your point. How does Slive's approval quell Gouge's fears about having to answer to his own employees?? Especially in the off-chance Petrino did screw up again?

It's not if it's when will he screw up again. It's in his DNA.

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Can't understand why the same people who don't like the "good ole boy" network at Auburn (because they will never change), and the same people who think JJ should be fired for obvious reasons, (JJ njot qualifed to be AD and that hasn't changed) think Petrino will suddenly change his ways and not embarrass us?

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The following is a quote from Bobby Petrino back in August:

"I take responsibility for it and I am really sorry. I have played it over and over in my head a million times. How could I do this? How could this happen? And not just the hiring. Or that day. But my actions, my behavior — for months it was just wrong. I'm working hard to save my marriage. I'm working one day at a time. I want to stay married. That's my main priority right now. Making things right with my family. … I've made mistakes and I'm going to be a better person for it. … I think I've got to take this one day at a time, continue to improve as a person and as a husband. I'm also going to continue to work on football. And I just hope and pray that I get that opportunity again."

Putting any moral or ethical arguments aside, here is the main reason I think Gouge will not hire him. Gouge would be hiring an employee that was just recently fired from another employer for breaking some major workplace rules. What message does that send to the rest of the University? The football program doesn't exist in a vacuum, what about the next Auburn employee who breaks a rule? Couldn't he look at Gouge and say "hey, you hired a football coach who did worse than me"? Im not saying this is why I wouldnt hire him, but I think in the end its why Gouge will not hire him.

The reported meeting with Slive and CBP earlier this week will take care of these concerns IMO.

+1. Beat me to it Bro.

Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand your point. How does Slive's approval quell Gouge's fears about having to answer to his own employees?? Especially in the off-chance Petrino did screw up again?

It's not if it's when will he screw up again. It's in his DNA.

It is in JJ's and Jackson's DNA to be stupid and non-qualified for their jobs. It is in the BOT's DNA to want to run things and make most important decisions. But Petrino is suddenly going to change for the better as soon as he steps foot on campus. I just don't get it?

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