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[GwillMac6 20,671]

2 minutes ago, DAG said:

Chip kelly is not coming to freaking Auburn. He might not even want to return to college football. Let’s be realistic. Not only that . Doesn’t chip kelly have to go through a monitoring process with the NCAA for failure to monitor at his last program he ran away from? Talk about a risk.

Published on Jan. 2, 2017

Chip Kelly was fired by the 49ers, but he still has three years remaining on his four-year, $24 million deal. If you do the math, that comes out to about $6 million per year, which means he has about $18 million left to be paid.

Even better for Kelly? He's still getting paid by the Eagles. He was owed $13.4 million at the time of his firing, although since he was hired by San Francisco, there's an offset against future earnings in the contract that makes it so Kelly can't double-dip. This means the Eagles ended up owing Kelly about $1 million, or roughly $500,000 per year. 

 

But now that Kelly has been fired, it creates an interesting scenario, as ProFootballTalk's Mike Florio pointed out. The 49ers could argue the Eagles still owe Kelly the money from their contract, and the Eagles could argue that the 49ers should still have to pay.

Via Florio:

Ultimately, the two sides may end up submitting the issue to the league office for resolution. There likely won’t be much precedent, given that not many coaches get fired by one NFL team while they are still earning paychecks from another NFL team that fired him.

Whatever the case, Kelly should end up earning plenty of cash in the near future.

MORE: The 49ers' five best candidates to replace Chip Kelly

As for the 49ers, Kelly's contract isn't the only one to worry about. ESPN's Adam Schefter said on "SportsCenter" Monday morning that San Francisco owes $69 million to former head and assistant coaches.

[GwillMac6 20,671]

Chip can be extra picky about his next job albeit in college or pro. He can sit on his rear and rake in the millions until he gets a enticing job that comes along.

[DAG 33,982]

Just now, GwillMac6 said:

Chip can be extra picky about his next job albeit in college or pro. He can sit on his rear and rake in the millions until he gets a enticing job that comes along.

Making good money to sit on his ass. Smart man . 

[GwillMac6 20,671]

1 minute ago, DAG said:

Making good money to sit on his ass. Smart man . 

Him and Hugh Freeze can eat their heart out with as many lovely ladies from escort services now that they have all this free time on their hand! lol.

[Maverick.AU 13,279]

7 minutes ago, DAG said:

Making good money to sit on his ass. Smart man . 

Which is why I think we’re seeing “investigations” to fire with cause now, Bc the buyouts for coaching failures is ridiculous 

[auburn4ever 1,266]

What does Gary Patterson make at TCU and what does Chris Peterson.at Washington. I'd like to see us get either one of those coaches.

[musicitytiger 281]

13 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said:

Chip can be extra picky about his next job albeit in college or pro. He can sit on his rear and rake in the millions until he gets a enticing job that comes along.

Kind of one of those deals where you have to at least make him tell you “no”

[DAG 33,982]

9 minutes ago, musicitytiger said:

Kind of one of those deals where you have to at least make him tell you “no”

Short of making him the highest paid coach , there is no reason for him to come to auburn. And again, there is some NCAA stuff he might have to deal with it.

[PoetTiger 1,896]

31 minutes ago, DAG said:

Chip kelly is not coming to freaking Auburn. He might not even want to return to college football. Let’s be realistic. Not only that . Doesn’t chip kelly have to go through a monitoring process with the NCAA for failure to monitor at his last program he ran away from? Talk about a risk.

He is a proven head coach at a major program, who has won....If he wants he will be a coach again at a major power 5 school. Whether he comes or not, no one knows. But if u want a proven winner who is more readily available than let’s say Nick Saban or Meyer then you kick the tires on Chip Kelly.

[DAG 33,982]

Just now, PoetTiger said:

He is a proven head coach at a major program, who has won....If he wants he will be a coach again at a major power 5 school. Whether he comes or not, no one knows. But if u want a proven winner who is more readily available than let’s say Nick Saban or Meyer then you kick the tires on Chip Kelly.

And that’s not realistic . If that is your bar. You are going to be severely disappointed  unless AU is willing to throw Tennessee money around (rumored). That is 10 mil a year for a coach . There is no reason for Chip to deal with the headache of collegiate athletics since he is getting paid by his previous employer 

[PoetTiger 1,896]

1 minute ago, DAG said:

And that’s not realistic . If that is your bar. You are going to be severely disappointed  unless AU is willing to throw Tennessee money around (rumored). That is 10 mil a year for a coach . There is no reason for Chip to deal with the headache of collegiate athletics since he is getting paid by his previous employer 

interesting many have said Auburn does not set the bar high enough. So what is it? Too low or too high? How many proven available coaches are out there now? Not many...not saying he comes but you damn sure better ask or settle for a Mark Hudspeth type guy

[DAG 33,982]

10 minutes ago, PoetTiger said:

interesting many have said Auburn does not set the bar high enough. So what is it? Too low or too high? How many proven available coaches are out there now? Not many...not saying he comes but you damn sure better ask or settle for a Mark Hudspeth type guy

You don’t waste resources on a guy who holds all of the weight of the deal . That is just not sensible . The realistic issue is there are hardly any proven coaches out there. That is why it cost lots of money to bring them in. Now it’s easy to spend other people money. 

Every freaking fan of a  program who has a new coaching gig always says chip kelly. Newsflash, he has yet to show any interest. Chances are he isn’t coming back unless it is an outrageous deal. Again even if he does comeback , you still have to worry about the NCAA. 

LSU and Texas fans clamored about it last year . UT and UF fans have also clamored about it . Even freaking Arkansas fans. If he didn’t go to Texas , LSU or even Florida . He is not coming to Auburn . 

[PoetTiger 1,896]

40 minutes ago, DAG said:

You don’t waste resources on a guy who holds all of the weight of the deal . That is just not sensible . The realistic issue is there are hardly any proven coaches out there. That is why it cost lots of money to bring them in. Now it’s easy to spend other people money. 

Every freaking fan of a  program who has a new coaching gig always says chip kelly. Newsflash, he has yet to show any interest. Chances are he isn’t coming back unless it is an outrageous deal. Again even if he does comeback , you still have to worry about the NCAA. 

LSU and Texas fans clamored about it last year . UT and UF fans have also clamored about it . Even freaking Arkansas fans. If he didn’t go to Texas , LSU or even Florida . He is not coming to Auburn . 

i don’t think the timing was ideal for those available slots...but i am not sure. The guy will coach again...at a major power 5 school...and he will win.

[DAG 33,982]

Here is my realistic list of candidates: NOT ALL WHO I WANT, just people I feel for sure AU can get

Lane Kiffin

Bobby Petrino

Charlie Strong

P.J. Fleck

Jeff Brohm

Matt Campbell

Chad Morris - Probably going to the Aggies though

Scott Frost

Mike Norvell

Candidates  that are a stretch but may listen:

Dan Mullen - Probably will be heading to UF

Justin Fuente 

Candidates who are a pipedream

Mark Richt - Good gig at Miami. Coaching at alma mater

Gary Patterson - Good gig at TCU. Chances Would want more money. TCU would probably match

Bob Stoops - He is retired. Let it go.

Chip Kelly - explained above

Chris Peterson - Loves the west coast. Not coming to the south

David Shaw - Family loves the west coast. Vehemently denied leaving for the NFL because of so.

Jimbo Fisher - insane buyout.

My 02. cents

[DAG 33,982]

1 minute ago, PoetTiger said:

i don’t think the timing was ideal for those available slots...but i am not sure. The guy will coach again...at a major power 5 school...and he will win.

I think if we offered him an insane amount of money or anyone else for that matter, he would consider it. The issue is would we do that? Another thing is, apparently he hates recruiting (Oregon board fodder) which makes sense from his last stint of failure to monitor with recruiting services. Those are things that need to be taken into consideration.

[AU64 10,122]

1 hour ago, Maverick.AU said:

 

Which is why I think we’re seeing “investigations” to fire with cause now, Bc the buyouts for coaching failures is ridiculous 

They are not buyouts ....it's a matter of honoring the contract you signed.   

Trying to find something that might qualify as "cause" to justify firing a coach is a real ethical issue.  Sometimes it happens but it stinks for a school to search around of a "cause" issue after the decision has been made to fire a coach over W-L.

If a  school does not intend to honor a long term contract, just offer the guy a one year deal and tell him you will renegotiate it each year. It's not that hard. 

[Beaker 2,457]

I am not a Chip Kelly fan for different reasons:

1.  he's a northeasterner with a short stint at Oregon.   Recruiting in the South isn't easy if you're an outsider.  He has some appeal, but...

2.  He left Oregon in a mess.   He paid a recruiting service out of Texas which "placed or pointed" players to Oregon.  It got so sticky Kelly had to leave and multiple players transferred.  He had players playing who would not have played at Auburn (domestic violence I think) and was banned by NCAA for 18 months.  In a short time he really messed up a nice program.  

3.  I think he is over rated.  He added on to a program that was already surging under (Bellotti?) during a time the PAC 10 was down or at least flat.  

[Maverick.AU 13,279]

1 minute ago, AU64 said:

They are not buyouts ....it's a matter of honoring the contract you signed.   

Trying to find something that might qualify as "cause" to justify firing a coach is a real ethical issue.  Sometimes it happens but it stinks for a school to search around of a "cause" issue after the decision has been made to fire a coach over W-L.

If a  school does not intend to honor a long term contract, just offer the guy a one year deal and tell him you will renegotiate it each year. It's not that hard. 

I agree that it sucks for a school to search for things 100%, but the fact that a coach can fail at his job and still rake in millions for years to come is also pretty disturbing too

[DAG 33,982]

1 minute ago, Beaker said:

I am not a Chip Kelly fan for different reasons:

1.  he's a northeasterner with a short stint at Oregon.   Recruiting in the South isn't easy if you're an outsider.  He has some appeal, but...

2.  He left Oregon in a mess.   He paid a recruiting service out of Texas which "placed or pointed" players to Oregon.  It got so sticky Kelly had to leave and multiple players transferred.  Had players playing who would not have played at Auburn (domestic violence I think) and was banned by NCAA for 18 months.  In a short time, he really messed up a nice program.  

3.  I think he is overrated.  He added on to a program that was already surging under (Bellotti?) during a time the PAC 10 was down I think.  

 

Not going to agree with everything on here, but I don't know why we are dismissing point 2.

[wdefromtx 3,159]

15 minutes ago, DAG said:

Here is my realistic list of candidates: NOT ALL WHO I WANT, just people I feel for sure AU can get

Lane Kiffin

Bobby Petrino

Charlie Strong

P.J. Fleck

Jeff Brohm

Matt Campbell

Chad Morris - Probably going to the Aggies though

Scott Frost

Mike Norvell

Candidates  that are a stretch but may listen:

Dan Mullen - Probably will be heading to UF

Justin Fuente 

Candidates who are a pipedream

Mark Richt - Good gig at Miami. Coaching at alma mater

Gary Patterson - Good gig at TCU. Chances Would want more money. TCU would probably match

Bob Stoops - He is retired. Let it go.

Chip Kelly - explained above

Chris Peterson - Loves the west coast. Not coming to the south

David Shaw - Family loves the west coast. Vehemently denied leaving for the NFL because of so.

Jimbo Fisher - insane buyout.

My 02. cents

Matt Campbell has. 9.4 million buyout. Not sure such an unknown is worth that kind of dough.

[DAG 33,982]

Just now, wdefromtx said:

Matt Campbell has. 9.4 million buyout. Not sure such an unknown is worth that kind of dough.

Thanks for the point out.

[AUwent 3,748]

^I mean, I think ISU is gonna increase that buyout. If he loses just one more game in the reg season I strongly disagree with the “unknown” part. As I said I think he has a more accomplished resume than possibly any coach of ours ever had prior to coming here. Buuuuut he’ll be too expensive.

Frost would be AWESOME.

I really am not sure whether Mullen would leave Starkvegas for Gainesville. Is it true that it’s the only place his kids have known? (Yes I know he was their OC.) If it leaves Frost open, though, woot.

[AU64 10,122]

Just now, Maverick.AU said:

I agree that it sucks for a school to search for things 100%, but the fact that a coach can fail at his job and still rake in millions for years to come is also pretty disturbing too

It's just a fact of life in big time sports.   Some baseball teams are paying as many guys not to pay as they have on their active payroll.   I missed the name earlier today but heard Dodgers are paying some guy $23 million a year for a couple years not to play ball.   

And as noted.....any school that choses to can just stick to principle and only offer one year deals....which is what most assistant coaches have.  

[Maverick.AU 13,279]

Just now, AU64 said:

It's just a fact of life in big time sports.   Some baseball teams are paying as many guys not to pay as they have on their active payroll.   I missed the name earlier today but heard Dodgers are paying some guy $23 million a year for a couple years not to play ball.   

And as noted.....any school that choses to can just stick to principle and only offer one year deals....which is what most assistant coaches have.  

No school is ever going to offer “one year “ deals as every hire they feel like they’ve found their coach of the future, just like when you hire a guy for a regular job you feel like you may have a future long term employee, but just like in regular jobs, they shouldn’t be rewarded for failing. There should be a termination based on performance clause in every contract just like you can fire an employee who underperforms.

[Beaker 2,457]

I am on an island by myself:  B Venables.   I heard he has "skeletons" in his closet.  

Uhhh.  Most successful people have stepped on some toes or grabbed a face mask of a player.  Unless he has the body buried under his driveway....well that may be a good place to bury one.

The best coordinator in America, the best coaching tree of anyone mentioned thus far  and  enough energy to light up Opelika for 45 days?  yeah, I will take him.  Not to mention he recruits lights out!  

Haha -get it?  maybe that was double entendres!