Stephen66 51 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, DAG said: WTF is he just here to recruit then, and hands it off to someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinPat 2,581 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, murpjf88 said: Was Georgia 60 point favorites against FSU? Those are betting odds, not necessarily who's going to win the game. I may be wrong, but I think betting odds are based off of who the betting agencies think are going to win the game. Georgia wasn’t a 60 point favorite but they were 20 point favorites to win the game, so they were heavily favored to win and everyone was predicting them to win. We were a touchdown favorite to win the game and most I saw picked us to win the game, especially with their starting quarterback sitting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,036 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stephen66 said: WTF is he just here to recruit then, and hands it off to someone else? Well...I think so for this first season. I hate it but some around here are totally okay with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinPat 2,581 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, DAG said: Well...I think so for this first season. I hate it but some around here are totally okay with it. I don’t think anyone was expecting us to compete for the West this year, most thought 7-8 was the ceiling for this team. But I do think the product you are putting on the field is a part of the sales pitch to recruits. We were 6-7 point favorites today and many “experts” picked us to win and we looked like hot garbage. Can you name any unit on our team and say they got better from the beginning of the season to the end? Maybe I’m wrong, but I would think that’s important to recruits and their parents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUx 3,016 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DAG said: I was channeling cbo, wrapping criticism in lilac-perfumed k-street letterhead. Edited December 31, 2023 by AUx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenlee36 1,654 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Ridiculous…Sounds like we need a new leader of the program. Gus couldn’t recruit OL and ran a high school offense but dang it I don’t recall such deflated performance out of his teams. We’ve had some of our most embarrassing losses in our history occur just this year. This guy is passé about winning. I get him allocating more time to recruiting but he has completely put this team and season on the back burner and heck I’m fine with that. But I’m not fine with the statement it makes to the core and culture of our program moving forward. If it okay to not care this year then it’s okay for the team to not care next year and the next, right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murpjf88 506 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, PigskinPat said: I may be wrong, but I think betting odds are based off of who the betting agencies think are going to win the game. Georgia wasn’t a 60 point favorite but they were 20 point favorites to win the game, so they were heavily favored to win and everyone was predicting them to win. We were a touchdown favorite to win the game and most I saw picked us to win the game, especially with their starting quarterback sitting out. OSU was favored against Mizzou by 5 and lost by 11. Favorites don't always win. Maybe the oddsmakers had Alabama fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenlee36 1,654 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Stephen66 said: WTF is he just here to recruit then, and hands it off to someone else? Exactly. Winning football games is a second tier goal?!?! It sets a bad precedent for future years. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1716AU 732 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, catvomit said: Brother Hugh has A LOT of work to do before next season. I give him a C- for this year. Hopefully much better days are ahead because I sure didn't see what I expected and hoped to see this year. You're incredibly generous. This was pretty much a D- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenTiger 1,007 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Bad execution and it’s because we have a player problem. Bad game plan and it’s because he is out recruiting. Motivation issues and it’s a culture problem now. One thing pastor freeze does well is make excuses 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen66 51 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, DAG said: Well...I think so for this first season. I hate it but some around here are totally okay with it. Doesn't say much for his staff then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinPat 2,581 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, murpjf88 said: OSU was favored against Mizzou by 5 and lost by 11. Favorites don't always win. Maybe the oddsmakers had Alabama fever. Upsets do happen, they happen every week in football. Your original statement was that there was no way we were winning that game with Thorne as our quarterback. I was simply saying that many others felt we were going to win or at the very least had a good shot at winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,804 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, PigskinPat said: many “experts” picked us to win Any experts picking Auburn to win were making their picks by throwing darts blindfolded. In the last 3 games alone, Auburn went to Arkansas and set off a nuclear weapon, then went back home and got rolled by New Mexico State, then nearly beat a Playoff team. If anyone can predict the 2023 Auburn Tigers with any reasonable degree of accuracy, hire that person to pick you lotto numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,036 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, GreenTiger said: Bad execution and it’s because we have a player problem. Bad game plan and it’s because he is out recruiting. Motivation issues and it’s a culture problem now. One thing pastor freeze does well is make excuses Part of it is his congregation as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaturdayGT 719 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I'm kinda ok with letting this one go. Bowl games are not what they used to be...we played the UGs and Turds pretty well....the Terps are not even close to those guys. ..a head coach starts out as selling themselves to get the job,...they actually need time to find the love and motivation for the team....Money doesn't buy that!!...after time, he will get his recruits, he will find his staff..it will take a few years (+/-)....it will happen. ... Besides, put yourselves in coaching shoes...if you had to motivate a team to come out and make a statement (choose the easy way out), would it be Auburn vrs the Terps, or the Terps vrs Auburn? ...if your the Terps, you have a shot at the SEC and a trophy to signify it!...if your Auburn, you have a shot at a trophy you won vrs the Terps (yawwwn).....its a way less intresting game than regular season games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAubs 418 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, PigskinPat said: I may be wrong, but I think betting odds are based off of who the betting agencies think are going to win the game. Georgia wasn’t a 60 point favorite but they were 20 point favorites to win the game, so they were heavily favored to win and everyone was predicting them to win. We were a touchdown favorite to win the game and most I saw picked us to win the game, especially with their starting quarterback sitting out. You are wrong. Betting odds are based on who the oddsmakers think the betting public will wager on close to a 50/50 split. They don’t care who wins or loses or by how much. They want the action to be evenly split so they can make their money on the vig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinPat 2,581 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, NCAubs said: You are wrong. Betting odds are based on who the oddsmakers think the betting public will wager on close to a 50/50 split. They don’t care who wins or loses or by how much. They want the action to be evenly split so they can make their money on the vig. I guess that’s why I don’t bet. 😂 I always thought the team favored to win was the team, you know, favored to win. I also thought when sports heads are overwhelmingly picking a team to win then that is the team that “should” win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDUBB4AU 5,138 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, DAG said: There is no think to it. You gave up on the team and fans. You can’t pick and choose parts of the job you do and don’t want to do. What a mistake this guy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerOne 1,159 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, JDUBB4AU said: There is no think to it. You gave up on the team and fans. You can’t pick and choose parts of the job you do and don’t want to do. What a mistake this guy!!!!! A good salesman can sell anything. A real coach can coach. right now we have a salesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,028 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, SaturdayGT said: I'm kinda ok with letting this one go. Bowl games are not what they used to be...we played the UGs and Turds pretty well....the Terps are not even close to those guys. ..a head coach starts out as selling themselves to get the job,...they actually need time to find the love and motivation for the team....Money doesn't buy that!!...after time, he will get his recruits, he will find his staff..it will take a few years (+/-)....it will happen. ... Besides, put yourselves in coaching shoes...if you had to motivate a team to come out and make a statement (choose the easy way out), would it be Auburn vrs the Terps, or the Terps vrs Auburn? ...if your the Terps, you have a shot at the SEC and a trophy to signify it!...if your Auburn, you have a shot at a trophy you won vrs the Terps (yawwwn).....its a way less intresting game than regular season games... If that’s how u see it. Why not decline. U have fans that paid their hard earned money to watch this game. It’s wild for people have these type of takes and use stuff like throw away games. For some this might be the only game they get to attend and bowl game probably aren’t cheap Edited December 31, 2023 by e808 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman87 398 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, ScotsAU said: This was a bad effort. But I’m not going to draw any major conclusions from this game. It didn’t enhance my confidence in freeze, but it really didn’t hurt it either. I’d bet the coaches were so focused on recruiting that they didn’t put a lot of energy into this game. If so, I’m fine with that. This season is a wash. I’d rather build momentum for the future than worry about a meaningless bowl game in a throw away season. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m filing this one away, and just looking to see some strides forward next season. The way forward is made of making progress. We showed the opposite of progress today. Unprepared, undisciplined, and unfocused. Do that again next year and the next coach will appreciate the fine effort recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win4AU 4,055 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Thank goodness for the Miss State, Vandy, Arkansas run because every other game this season was a disappointment. Even the Cal win felt like a loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,028 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, PigskinPat said: I guess that’s why I don’t bet. 😂 I always thought the team favored to win was the team, you know, favored to win. I also thought when sports heads are overwhelmingly picking a team to win then that is the team that “should” win the game. The Auburn spread did drop before the game so if u planned or bet on Auburn that should have made u nervous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU120289 380 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, catvomit said: Brother Hugh has A LOT of work to do before next season. I give him a C- for this year. Hopefully much better days are ahead because I sure didn't see what I expected and hoped to see this year. You must be grading on a curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU120289 380 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 47 minutes ago, SaturdayGT said: I'm kinda ok with letting this one go. Bowl games are not what they used to be...we played the UGs and Turds pretty well....the Terps are not even close to those guys. ..a head coach starts out as selling themselves to get the job,...they actually need time to find the love and motivation for the team....Money doesn't buy that!!...after time, he will get his recruits, he will find his staff..it will take a few years (+/-)....it will happen. ... Besides, put yourselves in coaching shoes...if you had to motivate a team to come out and make a statement (choose the easy way out), would it be Auburn vrs the Terps, or the Terps vrs Auburn? ...if your the Terps, you have a shot at the SEC and a trophy to signify it!...if your Auburn, you have a shot at a trophy you won vrs the Terps (yawwwn).....its a way less intresting game than regular season games... I really hope you are not responsible for hiring anybody. That is the wrong mindset on so many levels. Also, we got trucked by NMSU in the regular season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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