NCAA Outlaws Tiger Prowl

[LegalEagle 22]

I'm short on time so here:

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/043010/foo_628361984.shtml

So now Tiger Prowl has nothing to do with recruiting:

http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2010/04/auburns_gene_chizik_high_schoo.html

Enjoy.

[Bottomfeeder 244]

That's okay we'll find a way around it.

[TitanTiger 20,708]

I imagine what will start happening is that Tiger Prowl will continue and will show up in the town near the school, focus on local fans and market the program and then only two coaches will proceed to the HS campus to meet with coaches and teachers and such. It may lessen the impact in some of the larger city schools, but in towns like Sweet Water and Oxford and so on, it'll be a big deal whether they get to drive on campus or not.

[RunInRed 16,991]

The AJC as an article up that details further...

New NCAA legislation stops en masse recruiting tactics

by Chip Towers

Well, that didn’t last long.

The NCAA on Thursday passed legislation to curtail the dog-and-pony show that has become the spring evaluation period. So Auburn must park its Hummer limousine and Georgia coaches will have to go back to evaluating prospects one or two at a time.

The NCAA Division I board of directors approved an amendment to Bylaw 13.5.1 that limits to two the number of assistant coaches that can “evaluate” a prospective student-athlete at any one time, Christopher Radford of the NCAA told the AJC. It also effectively grounds the use of extravagant means — such as shuttling coaches around in limos or helicopters — used to draw attention to coaches’ presence at a school.

Following is the NCAA’s explanation of the new legislation:

Although during an evaluation period no in-person, off-campus recruiting contact may occur with a prospective student-athlete, it has become commonplace for institutions to send numerous coaches to a prospective student-athlete’s educational institution. Oftentimes arriving in limousines and extravagant buses, these multiple coaches are appearing at the high schools of the prospective student-athletes just as much to be seen as to actually conduct an evaluation. Many institutions are unnecessarily expending resources in order to have multiple assistant coaches attend these evaluations as a result of the perceived recruiting benefit. By permitting only two football coaches per institution to visit a prospective student-athlete’s school on any given evaluation day, it would preclude institutions from sending a large number of assistant coaches to a school just for perception purposes.

Georgia, which began its four-week spring evaluation period on Monday, was sending assistant coaches to see elite prospects in groups of seven — the maximum number allowed on the road at any one time by NCAA rules — the first three days of this week. The Bulldogs were responding in kind to the recruiting tactics first employed by Auburn coaches last year with its “Tiger Prowl,” in which multiple coaches traveled from school to school via a white stretch limousine decorated in school regalia.

Georgia coach Mark Richt said the Bulldogs knew the new legislation was coming.

“We knew if we were going to do it in numbers at a certain place, we better do it right now,” Richt told the Athens Banner-Herald before a Bulldog Club gathering in Augusta Thursday night. “But next week was kind of a time for everyone to disperse anyway. So it worked out about how we hoped it would.”

Richt and his staff are serious about reclaiming its recruiting dominance in state, especially with Georgia’s senior class of 2011 being one of the most talented of all time. The Bulldogs sent out a news release on Wednesday proclaiming their intentions of keeping the best of the best at home. Georgia has six commitments so far, all of them hailing from the Peach State.

“By the end of next week, our assistant coaches will have been to more than 350 schools in the state of Georgia,” Richt said. “Our coaches are really pounding the state of Georgia. The focus of our staff is to make sure we recruit the state of Georgia first. As we all know, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program and our state is a hotbed for talent. It’s our job to do everything we can to show these young men the academic and athletic merits of the University of Georgia. I know if we get the best players in our state to come to the University of Georgia, we will win championships.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010/04/30/new-ncaa-legislation-stops-en-masse-recruiting-tactics/

So here's the question: What rival coach complained the loudest or do you think this is a measure in which the NCAA felt compelled to act on its own?

[TitanTiger 20,708]

My guess...schools from less than prime football conferences like the Big Least as well as the smaller budget football schools like Vandy, MSU, Baylor and Georgia Tech. Schools like Georgia, Alabama, Florida and others have the means and will to come up with other extravagant ways to make a splash or to just rip off some of our ideas.

[smilin tiger 0]

(_?_) DUMBA$$ES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RunInRed 16,991]

The NCAA has cut the number of coaches allowed to visit a school to two. Previously, the only applicable rule was that a maximum of seven assistants could be on the road at one time. Most schools scattered those seven men to cut a wider swath. Auburn unified its front.

Good or bad for Auburn? I say good. It gives the coaches a chance to frame the NCAA as haters; that Auburn was too good and too sly and too enthusiastic and too creative for the NCAA's tastes.

I had a humorous exchange with Trooper Taylor about this on Tuesday.

I said: "Considering how much bigger this has become since 2009, how high can you go for 2011?"

He said: "It probably won't happen. The NCAA will shut this down. We won't be recruiting like this next year, so we'll just enjoy it while we can. Hey, if they're creating rules to stop you from doing things, you must be doing something right."

http://jaygtate.blogspot.com/

[Tigerguy 1]

The AJC as an article up that details further...

New NCAA legislation stops en masse recruiting tactics

by Chip Towers

Well, that didn’t last long.

The NCAA on Thursday passed legislation to curtail the dog-and-pony show that has become the spring evaluation period. So Auburn must park its Hummer limousine and Georgia coaches will have to go back to evaluating prospects one or two at a time.

The NCAA Division I board of directors approved an amendment to Bylaw 13.5.1 that limits to two the number of assistant coaches that can “evaluate” a prospective student-athlete at any one time, Christopher Radford of the NCAA told the AJC. It also effectively grounds the use of extravagant means — such as shuttling coaches around in limos or helicopters — used to draw attention to coaches’ presence at a school.

Following is the NCAA’s explanation of the new legislation:

Although during an evaluation period no in-person, off-campus recruiting contact may occur with a prospective student-athlete, it has become commonplace for institutions to send numerous coaches to a prospective student-athlete’s educational institution. Oftentimes arriving in limousines and extravagant buses, these multiple coaches are appearing at the high schools of the prospective student-athletes just as much to be seen as to actually conduct an evaluation. Many institutions are unnecessarily expending resources in order to have multiple assistant coaches attend these evaluations as a result of the perceived recruiting benefit. By permitting only two football coaches per institution to visit a prospective student-athlete’s school on any given evaluation day, it would preclude institutions from sending a large number of assistant coaches to a school just for perception purposes.

Georgia, which began its four-week spring evaluation period on Monday, was sending assistant coaches to see elite prospects in groups of seven — the maximum number allowed on the road at any one time by NCAA rules — the first three days of this week. The Bulldogs were responding in kind to the recruiting tactics first employed by Auburn coaches last year with its “Tiger Prowl,” in which multiple coaches traveled from school to school via a white stretch limousine decorated in school regalia.

Georgia coach Mark Richt said the Bulldogs knew the new legislation was coming.

“We knew if we were going to do it in numbers at a certain place, we better do it right now,” Richt told the Athens Banner-Herald before a Bulldog Club gathering in Augusta Thursday night. “But next week was kind of a time for everyone to disperse anyway. So it worked out about how we hoped it would.”

Richt and his staff are serious about reclaiming its recruiting dominance in state, especially with Georgia’s senior class of 2011 being one of the most talented of all time. The Bulldogs sent out a news release on Wednesday proclaiming their intentions of keeping the best of the best at home. Georgia has six commitments so far, all of them hailing from the Peach State.

“By the end of next week, our assistant coaches will have been to more than 350 schools in the state of Georgia,” Richt said. “Our coaches are really pounding the state of Georgia. The focus of our staff is to make sure we recruit the state of Georgia first. As we all know, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program and our state is a hotbed for talent. It’s our job to do everything we can to show these young men the academic and athletic merits of the University of Georgia. I know if we get the best players in our state to come to the University of Georgia, we will win championships.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010/04/30/new-ncaa-legislation-stops-en-masse-recruiting-tactics/

So here's the question: What rival coach complained the loudest or do you think this is a measure in which the NCAA felt compelled to act on its own?

Isn't one of lil satan's buddies at lsu now a big dog in the NCAA ? Hmmmm. I wonder ??

[UA-CT 1]

The AJC as an article up that details further...

New NCAA legislation stops en masse recruiting tactics

by Chip Towers

Well, that didn’t last long.

The NCAA on Thursday passed legislation to curtail the dog-and-pony show that has become the spring evaluation period. So Auburn must park its Hummer limousine and Georgia coaches will have to go back to evaluating prospects one or two at a time.

The NCAA Division I board of directors approved an amendment to Bylaw 13.5.1 that limits to two the number of assistant coaches that can “evaluate” a prospective student-athlete at any one time, Christopher Radford of the NCAA told the AJC. It also effectively grounds the use of extravagant means — such as shuttling coaches around in limos or helicopters — used to draw attention to coaches’ presence at a school.

Following is the NCAA’s explanation of the new legislation:

Although during an evaluation period no in-person, off-campus recruiting contact may occur with a prospective student-athlete, it has become commonplace for institutions to send numerous coaches to a prospective student-athlete’s educational institution. Oftentimes arriving in limousines and extravagant buses, these multiple coaches are appearing at the high schools of the prospective student-athletes just as much to be seen as to actually conduct an evaluation. Many institutions are unnecessarily expending resources in order to have multiple assistant coaches attend these evaluations as a result of the perceived recruiting benefit. By permitting only two football coaches per institution to visit a prospective student-athlete’s school on any given evaluation day, it would preclude institutions from sending a large number of assistant coaches to a school just for perception purposes.

Georgia, which began its four-week spring evaluation period on Monday, was sending assistant coaches to see elite prospects in groups of seven — the maximum number allowed on the road at any one time by NCAA rules — the first three days of this week. The Bulldogs were responding in kind to the recruiting tactics first employed by Auburn coaches last year with its “Tiger Prowl,” in which multiple coaches traveled from school to school via a white stretch limousine decorated in school regalia.

Georgia coach Mark Richt said the Bulldogs knew the new legislation was coming.

“We knew if we were going to do it in numbers at a certain place, we better do it right now,” Richt told the Athens Banner-Herald before a Bulldog Club gathering in Augusta Thursday night. “But next week was kind of a time for everyone to disperse anyway. So it worked out about how we hoped it would.”

Richt and his staff are serious about reclaiming its recruiting dominance in state, especially with Georgia’s senior class of 2011 being one of the most talented of all time. The Bulldogs sent out a news release on Wednesday proclaiming their intentions of keeping the best of the best at home. Georgia has six commitments so far, all of them hailing from the Peach State.

“By the end of next week, our assistant coaches will have been to more than 350 schools in the state of Georgia,” Richt said. “Our coaches are really pounding the state of Georgia. The focus of our staff is to make sure we recruit the state of Georgia first. As we all know, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program and our state is a hotbed for talent. It’s our job to do everything we can to show these young men the academic and athletic merits of the University of Georgia. I know if we get the best players in our state to come to the University of Georgia, we will win championships.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010/04/30/new-ncaa-legislation-stops-en-masse-recruiting-tactics/

So here's the question: What rival coach complained the loudest or do you think this is a measure in which the NCAA felt compelled to act on its own?

Isn't one of lil satan's buddies at lsu now a big dog in the NCAA ? Hmmmm. I wonder ??

Did anyone really have to say anything, it wasn't like it was hidden or anything. It was meant to be obnoxious, absurd and out there for all to see. Is the bus going on ebay or craig's list now?

[TitanTiger 20,708]

Did anyone really have to say anything, it wasn't like it was hidden or anything. It was meant to be obnoxious, absurd and out there for all to see. Is the bus going on ebay or craig's list now?

And entirely within the rules. It was just a way to market the program and get people energized. Meanwhile, the NCAA continues to drag its feet on Saban's video conferencing technique, which much more obviously violates the no contact rules by nitpicking the semantics.

The Prowl will continue, with the bus, as it wasn't even going to the high schools anyway. We'll just send fewer coaches to each school, douchebag.

[aucanucktiger 1,818]

Trooper Taylor: "Hey, if they're creating rules to stop you from doing things, you must be doing something right".

sure coach, under that logic (e.g.) rules against financial ponzi schemes (Madoff) were created b/c they were clearly doing something right, DUI was made illegal b/c drunk drivers were clearly doing something right, etc, etc.

say what you will about the NCAA dullards but that quote has got to be the most moronic thing to come from a coaches mouth this decade and it suggests this guy doesn't know right from wrong.

[TitanTiger 20,708]

Bulls**t. Way to overreact. The most moronic thing I've heard lately just flowed from your keyboard.

If they are having to make a rule, it means that what you were doing was legal and within the rules, it just ran afoul of some pointed headed nerd's idealism. That some pedantic little weenies at the NCAA office decided to step in and micromanage things even more is not a reflection that Trooper "doesn't know right from wrong." I'd much rather the coaches be aggressive and push the envelope within the rules than sit back and play it safe and mellow.

And you fail at logic and analogies. Stopping an activity which can cause permanent harm or death to others cannot be equated to stopping an activity which harms no one. Not to mention, his statement was clearly made in the context of the NCAA rules and recruiting, not a blanket statement on every law ever made.

[MDM4AU 337]

Bulls**t. Way to overreact. The most moronic thing I've heard lately just flowed from your keyboard.

If they are having to make a rule, it means that what you were doing was legal and within the rules, it just ran afoul of some pointed headed nerd's idealism. That some pedantic little weenies at the NCAA office decided to step in and micromanage things even more is not a reflection that Trooper "doesn't know right from wrong." I'd much rather the coaches be aggressive and push the envelope within the rules than sit back and play it safe and mellow.

And you fail at logic and analogies. Stopping an activity which can cause permanent harm or death to others cannot be equated to stopping an activity which harms no one. Not to mention, his statement was clearly made in the context of the NCAA rules and recruiting, not a blanket statement on every law ever made.

[UA-CT 1]

Did anyone really have to say anything, it wasn't like it was hidden or anything. It was meant to be obnoxious, absurd and out there for all to see. Is the bus going on ebay or craig's list now?

And entirely within the rules. It was just a way to market the program and get people energized. Meanwhile, the NCAA continues to drag its feet on Saban's video conferencing technique, which much more obviously violates the no contact rules by nitpicking the semantics.

The Prowl will continue, with the bus, as it wasn't even going to the high schools anyway. We'll just send fewer coaches to each school, douchebag.

Which is why it is a waste of time and a total embarassment. Grown men wanting to be rockstars. Reguardless of wether it goes to the highschools or not it is still going to the towns of future prospects and being used as a recruiting tool.

Some Secretary of Crowd Control. You are the first one to use childish name calling. I don't post here very often but when I do I often see how absolutely rude you are to other posters, whether they are Alabama or Auburn. Grow up and let someone else have any opinion, argue contructively, and don't be a total dick to anyone who posts anything you disagree with, otherwise just make your own blog and direct it to anyone that might care. Judging by your post count, you seem to have the time.

[TitanTiger 20,708]

Which is why it is a waste of time and a total embarassment. Grown men wanting to be rockstars. Reguardless of wether it goes to the highschools or not it is still going to the towns of future prospects and being used as a recruiting tool.

Actually, not a waste of time. Which is one reason your Lord and Savior Coach Saban keeps yammering about it. I certainly don't remember Saban complaining about the frickin' pep rally Hoover High threw him on his first recruiting trip there. Have you canceled the Crimson Caravan yet? Hypocrites.

It's an effective marketing tool both to fans and recruits. If you don't like it, we don't give a damn. We'll keep doing whatever we can within the rules to promote Auburn and you can keep whining about it like little girls....somewhere else.

Some Secretary of Crowd Control. You are the first one to use childish name calling. I don't post here very often but when I do I often see how absolutely rude you are to other posters, whether they are Alabama or Auburn. Grow up and let someone else have any opinion, argue contructively, and don't be a total dick to anyone who posts anything you disagree with, otherwise just make your own blog and direct it to anyone that might care. Judging by your post count, you seem to have the time.

We allow all kinds of opinion around here. But when some bammer comes in spouting a line of flame-baiting bull****, they get called on it. This isn't your bammer board and while we welcome rival fans, ones that start cracking wise about Auburn will get it with both barrels. Hike up the big girl panties and deal with it.

[aucanucktiger 1,818]

"Bulls**t. Way to overreact. The most moronic thing I've heard lately just flowed from your keyboard."

Now that's an overreaction, calm down sonny. Maybe you shouldn't call yourself "Secretary of Crowd Control". You're an admin?

Trooper taunting the NCAA w/ statement's like his is only arrogant brevado that serves no purpose. And we all know the NCAA holds grudges. Or maybe you're too young to remember.

[TitanTiger 20,708]

"Bulls**t. Way to overreact. The most moronic thing I've heard lately just flowed from your keyboard."

Now that's an overreaction, calm down sonny. Maybe you shouldn't call yourself "Secretary of Crowd Control". You're an admin?

Trooper taunting the NCAA w/ statement's like his is only arrogant brevado that serves no purpose. And we all know the NCAA holds grudges. Or maybe you're too young to remember.

When you take Trooper's rather mild comments and react this way:

sure coach, under that logic (e.g.) rules against financial ponzi schemes (Madoff) were created b/c they were clearly doing something right, DUI was made illegal b/c drunk drivers were clearly doing something right, etc, etc.

say what you will about the NCAA dullards but that quote has got to be the most moronic thing to come from a coaches mouth this decade and it suggests this guy doesn't know right from wrong.

...then, no, it's not an overreaction. Really? Comparing DUIs and Ponzi schemes to creative recruiting that was entirely within the rules? Saying it suggests he doesn't know right from wrong? I'm sorry, but if you're going to toss around accusations like that and call what he said moronic, you open your own statements up to the same level of examination and what you said is much better qualified for the term "moronic" than anything that came from him. As I said:

Stopping an activity which can cause permanent harm or death to others cannot be equated to stopping an activity which harms no one. Not to mention, his statement was clearly made in the context of the NCAA rules and recruiting, not a blanket statement on every law ever made.

Don't come in taking shots like that at someone and expect to get a love tap in return when you're that off.