alexava 6,973 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: If Gus is a good coach he should not need a specific type of QB to succeed. He has only had a QB with wheels and ran that "system" 3 seasons. Cam and Nick Marshalls 2 years. The rest of his college coaching days he has had pass first guys. IDK why everyone thinks Gus is this running qb zone read guru. I could have written this same response in a different discussion. This discussion is about how you get a running qb to transfer to your system. It could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Scotty2Hotty said: Doesn't mean he is. But when you're trying to hit the proverbial home run at a transfer QB like Stidham two years ago, combined with Gus' tumultuous current status, you recruit whoever makes you most successful. Bryant has run the zone read with decent success. Gus has run it with National Championship success. Guess what Gus is selling Bryant? Bryant is not even that great of a runner. Is he better than Stidham? Yes. But Tate is the one that is a perfect fit for the zone read offense. Not KB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty 520 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: Bryant is not even that great of a runner. Is he better than Stidham? Yes. But Tate is the one that is a perfect fit for the zone read offense. Not KB. No argument there, but the question begs, why did Sumlin turn a DT QB into a pocket passer? He did coach JF after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, ellitor said: Massive difference between the 2. Corey was never a Bama legend. If Hurts transferred to AU 70-80% of the state would have nothing to do with him after that. I don't mean in football terms either. I mean real life. Doubt he would give a damn about bammer fans having nothing to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, alexava said: I could have written this same response in a different discussion. This discussion is about how you get a running qb to transfer to your system. It could work. Then we are not selling him on what he wants to be sold on if that is the pitch. He has said numerous times he wants to go to the best place that prepares him for the NFL. I.E. A pass happy offense. That is the whole reason Mizzou is the front runner because of Drew Lockes draft stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe4christ 942 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, GwillMac6 said: Bryant is not even that great of a runner. Is he better than Stidham? Yes. But Tate is the one that is a perfect fit for the zone read offense. Not KB. To be honest, at this point I would take either one of them. Hoping Stidham is going pro. Not that I don't like him, he is just not the right fit for Gus's type of offense. Either Tate or Bryant would be a better option for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, GwillMac6 said: Then we are not selling him on what he wants to be sold on if that is the pitch. He has said numerous times he wants to go to the best place that prepares him for the NFL. I.E. A pass happy offense. That is the whole reason Mizzou is the front runner because of Drew Lockes draft stock. We are confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, roe4christ said: To be honest, at this point I would take either one of them. Hoping Stidham is going pro. Not that I don't like him, he is just not the right fit for Gus's type of offense. Either Tate or Bryant would be a better option for next year. Malzahns type of offense? Gus has shown time and time again he does not want to run that type of offense. He wants a Pocket Passer who is somewhat mobile. That is who he keeps recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, alexava said: We are confused. How? That is what Kelly Bryant said he was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe4christ 942 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, GwillMac6 said: Malzahns type of offense? Gus has shown time and time again he does not want to run that type of offense. He wants a Pocket Passer who is somewhat mobile. That is who he keeps recruiting. Hopefully he feels this is his last chance and he better go back to what was working in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty 520 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, alexava said: I could have written this same response in a different discussion. This discussion is about how you get a running qb to transfer to your system. It could work. Prob is, Bryant, like every other QB on planet Earth, is looking to get to the NFL, regardless of what any of us think his chances are. Doubtful he would hinge his chances, on his very last season, on being a "running QB", even though we all know that's what Gus is selling him i.e. look at Cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scotty2Hotty said: No argument there, but the question begs, why did Sumlin turn a DT QB into a pocket passer? He did coach JF after all. IDK, but I do know 2012 TAMU and 2013 TAMU offenses were the 2 of the best offenses I have ever seen in the SEC. Right up there with 2010 Auburn and 2008 Florida. Did he not have over 1k yards rushing in both seasons though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, roe4christ said: Hopefully he feels this is his last chance and he better go back to what was working in the beginning. I think even if KB comes it will not be enough to save his job. We may win 6 games instead of not being bowl eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe4christ 942 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Random news: Auburn RB Coach getting some love... Jason Caldwell added, Daniel JeremiahVerified account @MoveTheSticks Good name to watch for App State HC opening- Auburn RB coach @CoachTimHorton. He has a great reputation from his time at App State. One of my favorite coaches. 5:12 PM - 3 Dec 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, alexava said: Doubt he would give a damn about bammer fans having nothing to do with him. Hurts is not coming here. He has to much bama in him as Updyke himself said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,689 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, roe4christ said: Random news: Auburn RB Coach getting some love... Jason Caldwell added, Daniel JeremiahVerified account @MoveTheSticks Good name to watch for App State HC opening- Auburn RB coach @CoachTimHorton. He has a great reputation from his time at App State. One of my favorite coaches. 5:12 PM - 3 Dec 2018 hahaha Horton has wanted out every year for like 3 or 4 straight years. I hope he finally gets his wish. Though I highly doubt they offer it to him. That is a really good job in the sun belt. He clearly does not want to be here and his recruiting has been meh for sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,108 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Scotty2Hotty said: No argument there, but the question begs, why did Sumlin turn a DT QB into a pocket passer? He did coach JF after all. The answer is it's not his offense right now. He's letting it be Noel Mazzone's O atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,108 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, alexava said: Doubt he would give a damn about bammer fans having nothing to do with him. You're missing the point. They would put obstacles in his way in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82b4au 5,568 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: hahaha Horton has wanted out every year for like 3 or 4 straight years. I hope he finally gets his wish. Though I highly doubt they offer it to him. That is a really good job in the sun belt. He clearly does not want to be here and his recruiting has been meh for sometime. I hope he gets it for his sake and ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathergeakal 283 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Dont count State out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,108 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, weathergeakal said: Dont count State out. Anybody not AU or Mizzou would be a surprise at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathergeakal 283 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, ellitor said: Anybody not AU or Mizzou would be a surprise at this point. Its been a odd recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82b4au 5,568 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: I think even if KB comes it will not be enough to save his job. We may win 6 games instead of not being bowl eligible. I know he is thinking it over but I still think he will choose another school if for no it her reason than he will not be guaranteed the starting job at AU. Mizzou has nobody. I am not saying our bench is loaded by any means but with Nix - that will give us 5 qbs if KB joins. That is competition he does not have at the other schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty 520 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: IDK, but I do know 2012 TAMU and 2013 TAMU offenses were the 2 of the best offenses I have ever seen in the SEC. Right up there with 2010 Auburn and 2008 Florida. Did he not have over 1k yards rushing in both seasons though? Well sure, but again, that was then. Sumlin took a leading Heisman DT QB and turned him into a pocket passer. Guy was Heisman history after week 2 or 3. Point is, could Gus' zone read resurrect his DT career? Perhaps, but IMO, Tate seems like a million to one odds to journey east of the PAC 12. Same as Hurts and Bryant moving west of the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty 520 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, ellitor said: The answer is it's not his offense right now. He's letting it be Noel Mazzone's O atm. You mean HCs let OCs run their offenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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