Coaching Candidates

[casatiger 514]

There is no magic formula.  

Saban

Meyer

L Riley

Bowl cut

Dabo

Brian Kelley

Yaw Yaw

All of these guys are successful right now and all have different pedigrees. Crutin is a must and the rest is the secret sauce we need to figure out for Auburn.  I wish Gus could figure out his recipe.  

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

1,000! .....1K, .....One Thousand!  I think I'll have a drink. Sorry this doesn't match the topic but figured here is as good a place as any! WAR DAMN EAGLE 

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

2 minutes ago, casatiger said:

There is no magic formula.  

Saban

Meyer

L Riley

Bowl cut

Dabo

Brian Kelley

Yaw Yaw

All of these guys are successful right now and all have different pedigrees. Crutin is a must and the rest is the secret sauce we need to figure out for Auburn.  I wish Gus could figure out his recipe.  

At least 2 of these are not like the others!

[AuburnTiger4Life 2,225]

I’m ready for Saturday. People are getting way too bored around here

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

Just now, AuburnTiger4Life said:

I’m ready for Saturday. People are getting way too bored around here

Especially the ones who comment on threads they find boring...

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

7 minutes ago, AuburnTiger4Life said:

I’m ready for Saturday. People are getting way too bored around here

Truth. I am one.

[doug3020 842]

Rhett Lashlee. Haven't seen his name tossed out there. Doing big things at SMU. 

 

This would be the classic JABA hire.

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

Just now, doug3020 said:

Rhett Lashlee. Haven't seen his name tossed out there. Doing big things at SMU. 

 

This would be the classic JABA hire.

God No!!!! Please!

[casatiger 514]

Sonny Dykes is a realistic name. 

[doug3020 842]

1 minute ago, Tigerpro2a said:

God No!!!! Please!

His bio on the SMU website is pretty entertaining. Go read it and waste 2-3 minutes of your life.

[Carnell 592]

1 hour ago, GwillMac6 said:

Why is Jeff Scott a better choice than Matt Campbell or pj fleck again?

Because before becoming HC at Auburn, I think the coach should have significant experience as an OC or a DC at a school in a power 5 conference.  Scott has been OC at Clemson for 5 years now.  The other two have very little experience at schools in the power 5 conferences and certainly no experience as an OC or DC at a school in a power 5 conference.  The only reason those two are at their respective schools now is both are bottom tiered teams and those schools are not going to be able to get the best quality coaches so they have to take chances on higher risk coaches.

[doug3020 842]

2 minutes ago, Carnell said:

Because before becoming HC at Auburn, I think the coach should have significant experience as an OC or a DC at a school in a power 5 conference.  Scott has been OC at Clemson for 5 years now.  The other two have very little experience at schools in the power 5 conferences and certainly no experience as an OC or DC at a school in a power 5 conference.  The only reason those two are at their respective schools now is both are bottom tiered teams and those schools are not going to be able to get the best quality coaches so they have to take chances on higher risk coaches.

Wasn't his dad Brad Scott, the famed OC at FSU who became head coach at USCe and fizzled out rather quickly?

[WalkingCarpet 1,379]

IF the worst came to pass and we somehow lost to Arkansas or Ole Miss in addition to the big three and decided to move on from Gus I would call up Luke Fickell, Matt Rhule, and Matt Campbell and see if I could persuade any of them to come. Fickell's buyout is mega cheap but all are excellent coaches and none are old. 

[Carnell 592]

1 hour ago, AUght2win said:

Allen has no college experience aside from 1 GA season, and Bienemy has never been higher than a coordinator. I don't see what you see in those guys. Leading a college program and recruiting are wholly unique jobs compared to being an NFL assistant. Even an NFL head coach. 

Yea you are absolutely right being a DC with the Saints or OC with the chiefs cant compare to being a HC at Sprindale Ark or HC at UAB.  Well as far as recruiting goes Saben and Carroll spent the vast majority of their time in the NFL but recruited very well in college.  In fact, members on this board stated that he sells recruits that he has NFL connections.  If you win you can recruit.

[Carnell 592]

22 minutes ago, doug3020 said:

Wasn't his dad Brad Scott, the famed OC at FSU who became head coach at USCe and fizzled out rather quickly?

Yep, I dont know about fizzling out rather quickly after SC I believe he was OC at Clemson.

[Zeek 16,657]

4 hours ago, AUght2win said:

This is not a flame-Gus thread. Take that elsewhere.

This discussion is predicated on a worst-case scenario coming true - we lose to LSU, UGA, and Bama, and Gus being let go. I want to discuss who's out there. Again, this is not about keeping or firing Gus. Not about his pros or cons. It's assuming it DOES happen, and this is about looking to the available coaches.

The argument I've heard for a while is that we don't want to be coach shopping this year, as there aren't any good candidates. I don't know if there's ever a GOOD time to be looking for a coach, but I assume people mean there aren't a ton of proven commodities. I'm not so sure this is true. Here are some current head coaching prospects:

• Bob Stoops, HC - Dallas Renegades (190-48) - the obvious leadoff batter in this discussion. All the rumors last year. He isn't done coaching. The guy is heading up an XFL team for Pete's sake. Also, the first words out of his mouth when explicitly asked if he would ever return to college football were, "Well, we'll see." 
• PJ Fleck, HC - Minnesota (48-35) - this guy is a superstar in the making. He has Minnesota 6-0 in his third year at the school. If you're unfamiliar with Fleck's history, he is only 38 years old. He took his first head coaching job at Western Michigan when he was just 32. His first year he went 1-11. The next three years were all winning seasons, culminating in a 13-0 run to the Cotton Bowl and MAC title in 2016. It was the school's first CONFERENCE title since 1988! He's since gone to the perennially mediocre Minnesota and built them into a winner. He's got a ton of energy and confidence. Should be one of the first guys looked at.
• Matt Campbell, HC - Iowa State (58-36) - Many will shudder at the prospects of a visit from the ghost of Christmas/Iowa State Past, but this guy is another young talent worth considering. Just 39, he's brought actual consistency to Iowa State. He's won two games against top 5 opponents, and developed guys into legit pro talent.
• Bronco Mendenhall, HC - Virginia (119-67) - Really underrated coached. Has been a head coach for 15 seasons. Led BYU to a bowl each of his 11 seasons there. He beat teams like Oklahoma (ranked #3 at the time), Texas, Utah, Oregon, UCLA, Arizona, TCU, Boise State, Ole Miss, Washington, and other Power 5 teams. He's now building Virginia up after several years of being a doormat. Might be the safest bet in terms of getting an experienced winner. Would love to see what he'd do with real talent. 
• Mark Stoops, HC - Kentucky (39-42) - if we don't get one Stoops, we might get Diet Stoops instead. I actually think Mark is a great head coach. He won SEC Coach of the Year last year with a 10 win season (only the third in Kentucky's history). He also has taken the cats to three straight bowls, which has only been done at UK by Rich Brooks and Bear Bryant. His teams always seem to be a tough out. He also has a Tuberville-like knack to find real talent. Josh Allen was a 2 star, and Benny Snell was a 3 star. This is another guy I'd like to see with real talent around him.
• Bill Clark, HC - UAB (41-19 in college, 106-11 in high school) - I love this guy. He is a winner. Point blank. He is also the state of Alabama incarnate. Born and raised here. Coached high school ball across the state. Coached at Jacksonville State, South Alabama, and UAB. What he's done at UAB is truly remarkable. They went 11-3 last year, and are 5-1 this year. AT UAB! AFTER THE PROGRAM WAS SHUT DOWN FOR A YEAR! Probably my personal #1 candidate. 

Feel free to add or discuss more candidates. I stayed away from coordinators as candidates (as they are endless) and I also stayed away from guys who just don't seem keen on coming to the SEC (Leach, Gundy, Petersen, etc.). But you guys don't have to. List anyone you want!

Bill Clark is the only one I like on that list. The rest are too old or not successful enough. 
 

LSU has a defensive coordinator that could be the next great thing. 

[BJCrawford 1,568]

Including PJ Fleck based on what? His schedule is a big bunch of Tulanes and Miss States. And the rowing the boat schtick reminds me of Butch Jones and his champions of life. Please no....never.

[AUght2win 6,855]

1 hour ago, weagl1 said:

 It is not time to think about making a change. The expense of buying out the current contract plus the expense of hiring another coach is going to be prohibitive.  And whoever might be hired still going to have a tough time doing any better than Gus against our ridiculous schedule.  Unless he blows it against Arky or Ole Miss he will definitely be the coach next year.  

This is not the thread for that.

[AUght2win 6,855]

1 hour ago, AU64 said:

Just so you are not disappointed,

I will only suggest that most of the candidates being discussed are not gonna come to AU and would not win or recruit competitively in the SEC against the current major powers.     I guess it's fun to speculate, especially by the gus haters but hope nobody seriously believes the assessment of those coaches.   Funny that Brohm got missed...a year ago he was gonna wipe the field with AU and be out next coach...and where is Briles and Chip and Petrino?     This whole thread is a big JOKE....JMO

So there...   enjoy the evening...

So Bill Clark wouldn't come to Auburn... 🤔😂

Thanks for stopping by!

[AUght2win 6,855]

1 hour ago, AuburnTiger4Life said:

I’m ready for Saturday. People are getting way too bored around here

Is it possible to get too bored on a message board? It's not an airport gate. Football discussion is kinda the point. Now if I started a poll on whether or not you like Peanut M&Ms, you might have a point.

[AUght2win 6,855]

1 hour ago, Carnell said:

Yea you are absolutely right being a DC with the Saints or OC with the chiefs cant compare to being a HC at Sprindale Ark or HC at UAB.  Well as far as recruiting goes Saben and Carroll spent the vast majority of their time in the NFL but recruited very well in college.  In fact, members on this board stated that he sells recruits that he has NFL connections.  If you win you can recruit.

Strawman. You came in shooting down candidates based on your own criteria, then didn't follow that criteria.

[AUght2win 6,855]

2 hours ago, Tigerpro2a said:

What do you guys think of Herm Edwards? I doubt we'd have a shot at him and do not know if anybody would want him, but after watching the latest EP of HBO's 24/7 College FB I have come to realize I really like and have mad respect for coach Herm.

I have been shocked by Herm's level of success. I thought it was going to be a disaster when he didn't even know Arizona State's mascot at his opening press conference. But they just keep winning, with a TF QB no less.

[GwillMac6 20,689]

2 hours ago, Carnell said:

Because before becoming HC at Auburn, I think the coach should have significant experience as an OC or a DC at a school in a power 5 conference.  Scott has been OC at Clemson for 5 years now.  The other two have very little experience at schools in the power 5 conferences and certainly no experience as an OC or DC at a school in a power 5 conference.  The only reason those two are at their respective schools now is both are bottom tiered teams and those schools are not going to be able to get the best quality coaches so they have to take chances on higher risk coaches.

Coach O, dabo and urbs all make me want to just go find the best recruiter, leader of men and ceo head coaches. None had experience as a coordinator before becoming a head coach. Gus and chip Kelly has made me gun shy of Hiring at least a OC to be our next head coach. Some are system guys who as we see with Gus and chip refuse to adapt and change.

[DAG 33,997]

Aren’t we trying to avoid coaches who can’t beat their rivals? I am not putting the record down anymore, you guys can research it yourself, but look up James Franklin record vs Michigan State, tOSU and Michigan. Now consider this against LSU, UGA and Bama.

I like James Franklin. Auburn could do worse than him, but I respectively disagree with him being an “excellent” candidate. 

[GwillMac6 20,689]

5 minutes ago, DAG said:

Aren’t we trying to avoid coaches who can’t beat their rivals? I am not putting the record down anymore, you guys can research it yourself, but look up James Franklin record vs Michigan State, tOSU and Michigan. Now consider this against LSU, UGA and Bama.

I like James Franklin. Auburn could do worse than him, but I respectively disagree with him being an “excellent” candidate. 

WO!!! WOOOOOOW! HOW DARE YOU DRAG JAMES FRANKLIN NAME THROUGH THE MUD!!!! Don't you know that in year 6 he JUST PICKED UP HIS FIRST ROAD WIN vs a ranked team vs mighty Iowa last week?! lol. Or that he is a invigorating 2-9 vs top 10 teams???? haha. SMH. THE DISRESPECT!