JTFazz 386 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 David Pollack summed up my thoughts -- and most here -- on Steele on College Game Day this morning: Quote “When you look at Auburn, if I was making the decision, I’m not paying someone $21 million to go and hire somebody I already had on staff.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waaegl 64 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Tony Elliott’s story is very impressive. Because it’s not fully written, he may be considered the highest risk, but so far, the accomplishments can’t be argued. Has been around and contributed to success from the beginning of his career. Has consistently been pursued by others, but has been patient so far. Was voted as most respected by his peers when he played. Came up through the ranks and has been trusted by Dabo to run his offense. Dabo knows him well, as Dabo was his position coach. Is recognized as a great recruiter. Is young and energetic. A minority hire that recruits can identify with. First priority is someone who can go into homes and convince top level talent to come to Auburn to follow him. Check. Second, someone who knows how to succeed in current times, has a hunger and drive to succeed, and can assemble a staff that can contribute to priorities one and two. Everything I’ve read indicates that as a check. Third, one that can represent Auburn in a positive light. Check. Fourth, has no association with our past or any tendencies that would imply an expectation to continue to do things as we have done the last 20 years or so at Auburn. Sounds like it’s worth the risks for the expected rewards. Sadly, it probably won’t happen for reason number four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,048 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiger Refuge said: I may be off here, but it sounded like they were saying it was Steele. That he had the money backing him and dared Gus to fire him. But why would Gus fire the only coach the Auburn fans saw value in? That would have just pissed Auburn fans off more. Story just doesn’t add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek 16,660 Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Zeek said: I'm thinking if we #StopSteele it ends up being Napier. No baggage Good pedigree Good head coaching record even at a smaller school Good recruiter Young kids, beautiful wife, seems like an "Auburn man" fans could feel comfortable with Unlike Gus he has more than one year at a smaller school Might be one of the cheapest options considering he only makes like 800k right now Biggest problem is his passing schemes aren't great he'd need a very solid OC I'm on board but I can't think of a good nickname or hashtag for him... #FreeBilly ? #BringBilly ? Can't spell barn without BN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,394 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, AUBourne said: I finally watched the briefing with Kevin Steele discussing the recruiting class. The AU media guys gave him a lot of praise for his performance. Yet I was annoyed right away due to his mental pauses and saying "uhh" every 3 words. It was so annoying. I question the motive of the people that praised him for that performance. I’ve got a co-worker that does this and it drives me up the wall. It’s about all I can focus on when he’s talking to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak 2,529 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zeek said: I'm on board but I can't think of a good nickname or hashtag for him... #FreeBilly ? #BringBilly ? Can't spell barn without BN? #ohbilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,901 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: But why would Gus fire the only coach the Auburn fans saw value in? That would have just pissed Auburn fans off more. Story just doesn’t add up. Because he was not respectful to Gus as the head coach. Yeah the fans may have respected him but he may have disrespected Gus. It’s Steele, no other coach on the staff comes close, maybe Garner that’s about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bro Johnny Mac 1,403 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Zeek said: I'm on board but I can't think of a good nickname or hashtag for him... #FreeBilly ? #BringBilly ? Can't spell barn without BN? #WarBilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bro Johnny Mac 1,403 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: Def reeks of dabo trying to control the narrative on this on ahead of their game tonight. They aren't sitting power 5 head coaches. Of course they are going to get interviews. They are hot coordinators. Don't get the reason they have to put this out there to the media. Agree but it was HORRIBLE form for AU to leak the interview list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82b4au 5,568 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bro Johnny Mac said: Agree but it was HORRIBLE form for AU to leak the interview list... yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bro Johnny Mac 1,403 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, gr82b4au said: yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,055 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: But why would Gus fire the only coach the Auburn fans saw value in? That would have just pissed Auburn fans off more. Story just doesn’t add up. I don’t like all of the gossipy stuff but if he was undermining him , he absolutely should’ve resigned if he didn’t like Gus coaching style. That’s what I think was being alluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 3,873 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 This whole process reeks of intentional sabotage so that the PTB get what they want. It’s really childish and I think will backfire on them. Not that they really care or anything. It’ll be champagne toasts and pats on the back all around I’m sure. Rednecks with money. 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: seriously, Would someone that knows a lot about all these coaches answer a few questions for me? 1 How many SEC teams currently have a head coach that was hired directly from OC or DC? Georgia Arkansas (actually hired an OL coach) South Carolina Kentucky Vanderbilt Tennessee LSU (but had previous P5 experience) 26 minutes ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: 2 how many SEC teams have head coaches that were hired from lower division or much smaller schools? Mizzou Ole Miss (but Kiffin had P5 jobs) 26 minutes ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: 3 How many SEC teams currently have a head coach that was hired away from being a HC at a major conference? Florida A&M Bama Miss State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony4AU 386 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: seriously, Would someone that knows a lot about all these coaches answer a few questions for me? 1 How many SEC teams currently have a head coach that was hired directly from OC or DC? 2 how many SEC teams have head coaches that were hired from lower division or much smaller schools? 3 How many SEC teams currently have a head coach that was hired away from being a HC at a major conference? Alabama - Saban well everyone should know his background Auburn - TBD Arkansas - Pittman career assistant no coordinator experience Florida - Dan Mullen nine years at Miss St as HC Georgia - Kirby Power 5 DC Kentucky - Mark Stoops nine years as Power 5 DC LSU - Ed three years at Ole Miss then DC at Power 5 schools Ole Miss - Lane Power 5 HC then FAU Miss St - Pirate Power 5 HC Missouri - Drinkwitz one year Group 5 HC South Carolina - Shane Beamer Power 5 assistant coach no coordinator experience Tennessee - Pruitt Power 5 DC experience TAMU - Jimbo Power 5 HC Vandy - Clark Lea Power 5 DC experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutspanther 73 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Zeek said: I'm on board but I can't think of a good nickname or hashtag for him... #FreeBilly ? #BringBilly ? Can't spell barn without BN? I was talking to a USCe fan last night. Apparently Billy backed out because he wanted $5mil+/year and wanted to bring his current staff in at top 5% of their positions. A lot of people like him here, but he is not remotely worth that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 8,139 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, aubaseball said: Not to judge a coach by one play, but if it was his decision on the play against App State at the end of the game, no thanks to Napier. That was one of the dumbest decisions I’ve ever seen in a football game If we have learned anything from our experience with Gus, we should see if Napier can learn from his missteps. Maybe something to be asked in an interview. He coached his team to a Championship berth in-spite of his late game decision. As for the dumbest decision; I think leaving SW in for the 2nd half of the 2016 UGA game ranks up there with the dumbest, it just took longer to manifest itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnTiger4Life 2,225 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Jboy hinted at a big name being interviewed that hasn’t been released yet. Says he’s waiting for more confirmation. Could be the same guy 88 was talking about on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURealist 2,185 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: So on the Jboy cast, who was the coach Gus said needed to resign and the guy said “fire me”. He wouldn’t have asked Steele to resign. Steele was his most popular coach. The offense staff was all his guys, so I don’t see them talking to Gus like that. Dunno. Could have been any OC that was losing his mind from the meddling, but wanted to keep his nest egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,901 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, NoALtiger said: This whole process reeks of intentional sabotage so that the PTB get what they want. It’s really childish and I think will backfire on them. Not that they really care or anything. It’ll be champagne toasts and pats on the back all around I’m sure. Rednecks with money. 🤦♂️ And the weird part the PTB are not even on the same page. They all can got to h*** as far as I am concerned. I have felt this was since 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubearcat 2,138 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tony4AU said: Alabama - Saban well everyone should know his background Auburn - TBD Arkansas - Pittman career assistant no coordinator experience Florida - Dan Mullen nine years at Miss St as HC Georgia - Kirby Power 5 DC Kentucky - Mark Stoops nine years as Power 5 DC LSU - Ed three years at Ole Miss then DC at Power 5 schools Ole Miss - Lane Power 5 HC then FAU Miss St - Pirate Power 5 HC Missouri - Drinkwitz one year Group 5 HC South Carolina - Shane Beamer Power 5 assistant coach no coordinator experience Tennessee - Pruitt Power 5 DC experience TAMU - Jimbo Power 5 HC Vandy - Clark Lea Power 5 DC experience The Lea hire is solid. I’ve actually watched more ND this season (my 1b to my AU 1a) and there defense is strong. I really think they have a legitimate shot to knock Clemson off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Refuge 6,682 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, AuCivilEng1 said: But why would Gus fire the only coach the Auburn fans saw value in? That would have just pissed Auburn fans off more. Story just doesn’t add up. That’s what I’m saying. If what was being alluded to is true and Steele basically dared Gus to fire him, he(Steele) knew that Gus would be cutting his own throat if he did it. So Gus didn’t, and therefore neutered himself. At that point, Gus essentially lost his power. Listen to the podcast and judge for yourself. Shuler makes some great points/suggestions. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jboy-show-w-former-auburn-football-standout-rob-shuler/id1507349475?i=1000502910905 *ETA- Rereading, it looks like you already listened to it. *ETA part deuce- @AuCivilEng1 I went back and listened to it again. I’m not sure they were referencing Steele now. Sounds like it was perhaps an assistant. But still, if it’s an assistant coach then why in the world wouldn’t the coordinator recommend them to be fired for insubordination to the head coach...unless that coordinator really wanted the head coach’s power removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bro Johnny Mac 1,403 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, AuburnTiger4Life said: Jboy hinted at a big name being interviewed that hasn’t been released yet. Says he’s waiting for more confirmation It may be someone from a small school that won’t excite anyone or it could be an NFL guy only one unmentioned name that moves the needle...Urban Myer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurbis 579 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 minute ago, AURealist said: Dunno. Could have been any OC that was losing his mind from the meddling, but wanted to keep his nest egg. Could it have been T Will? People hinted earlier this week that there was something negative going on with him but nobody would come out and say directly what it was. Seems to be standard on Auburn boards. Tell people they know something and then make people play 20 questions to get it the info out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 minute ago, aubearcat said: The Lea hire is solid. I’ve actually watched more ND this season (my 1b to my AU 1a) and there defense is strong. I really think they have a legitimate shot to knock Clemson off again. I couldn't lay the 10.5 fast enough. Clemson will beat them like a damn drum tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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