DyeCampAlum 335 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I watch football just like you do, just so happens my opinion differs from yours. I will be the first one to walk Chizik out the door, pack for him, whatever he needs to hit the road but I do not see Petrino as the savior of Auburn football nor do I see him as the best choice we have. JMHO There is no option more proven. The rest are an utter roll of the dice. We know Petrino can win n this league even with lesser players because he coaches them up. Get him the knd of talent upgrade he'd have at Auburn and a good DC and the sky's the limit. Given Petrino's past behavior, I would think he would also be considered a roll of the dice and a risky proposition at best. If Auburn hires him they are messing with fire. If anything it's the opposite. He knows that if he gets another shot at a big time program he cannot screw it up or his career is literally finished. Plus his sin was made public. He was forced to deal with it rather than pretend it doesn't exist. And finally, we are in a unique position to put more accountability and other protections in place than any normal coach would ever have to accept. The rest are a roll of the dice on the field, which is what we are ultimately hiring them for. There's a very good chance you know more about what's going on with Auburn football than most of us do. But as someone who deals with human behavior for a living, let me just say... this is patently untrue. I think it's no more than wishful thinking. It's possible Petrino is trying to turn things around, and I wish him success. I prayed for him when the news broke last spring. But it's not Auburn's job to take that kind of risk. The basic argument you're making is no different than if a bank exec gets busted for corruption. Knowing the consequences and so forth, surely he wouldn't do it again. Would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug3020 842 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I watch football just like you do, just so happens my opinion differs from yours. I will be the first one to walk Chizik out the door, pack for him, whatever he needs to hit the road but I do not see Petrino as the savior of Auburn football nor do I see him as the best choice we have. JMHO There is no option more proven. The rest are an utter roll of the dice. We know Petrino can win n this league even with lesser players because he coaches them up. Get him the knd of talent upgrade he'd have at Auburn and a good DC and the sky's the limit. Given Petrino's past behavior, I would think he would also be considered a roll of the dice and a risky proposition at best. If Auburn hires him they are messing with fire. If anything it's the opposite. He knows that if he gets another shot at a big time program he cannot screw it up or his career is literally finished. Plus his sin was made public. He was forced to deal with it rather than pretend it doesn't exist. And finally, we are in a unique position to put more accountability and other protections in place than any normal coach would ever have to accept. The rest are a roll of the dice on the field, which is what we are ultimately hiring them for. There's a very good chance you know more about what's going on with Auburn football than most of us do. But as someone who deals with human behavior for a living, let me just say... this is patently untrue. I think it's no more than wishful thinking. It's possible Petrino is trying to turn things around, and I wish him success. I prayed for him when the news broke last spring. But it's not Auburn's job to take that kind of risk. The basic argument you're making is no different than if a bank exec gets busted for corruption. Knowing the consequences and so forth, surely he wouldn't do it again. Would he? Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leglessdan 1,934 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ugh...I gotta take a break from this thread. All that seems to be talked about is pros and cons of BP. Guess what?...None of us have a say about who is chosen as coach or what his personal life entails. I think we all agree to disagree one way or the other about Bobby Petrino....its getting a little exhausting.sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeCampAlum 335 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ugh...I gotta take a break from this thread. All that seems to be talked about is pros and cons of BP. Guess what?...None of us have a say about who is chosen as coach or what his personal life entails. I think we all agree to disagree one way or the other about Bobby Petrino....its getting a little exhausting.sigh What the hell is WRONG with you? This is an Auburn coaching thread? And you have the nerve to bring SANITY into the conversation? Screw you and the horse you rode in on. WDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leglessdan 1,934 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ugh...I gotta take a break from this thread. All that seems to be talked about is pros and cons of BP. Guess what?...None of us have a say about who is chosen as coach or what his personal life entails. I think we all agree to disagree one way or the other about Bobby Petrino....its getting a little exhausting.sigh What the hell is WRONG with you? This is an Auburn coaching thread? And you have the nerve to bring SANITY into the conversation? Screw you and the horse you rode in on. WDE Yeah...sanity...what was I thinking I think we've beaten a dead horse back to life then killed him again...jus sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger25 29 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ugh...I gotta take a break from this thread. All that seems to be talked about is pros and cons of BP. Guess what?...None of us have a say about who is chosen as coach or what his personal life entails. I think we all agree to disagree one way or the other about Bobby Petrino....its getting a little exhausting.sigh What the hell is WRONG with you? This is an Auburn coaching thread? And you have the nerve to bring SANITY into the conversation? Screw you and the horse you rode in on. WDE Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southga tiger 0 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 AU needs to hire a coach that runs an offense for what we have recruited for the past 4 or 5 years THE SPREAD and theres several that AU could contact. The next coach also needs to be hands on not a Ceo in other words its his offense his system his schemes so if the off. cod. leaves its on to the next guy to execute the offense not worrying about if the next hire will be a hit or miss with a new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigertill 0 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I'm telling you guys, looking at Jim Leavitt's background and who all he has and is learn from (Jim Harbaugh). This guy has the fire we need at AU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDob06 443 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Patrino is a football coach. And he takes football very serious and goes to work at his job. Its a business and he approaches it that way i think. I don't think banging your mistress and giving her a job in the athletic department exactly qualifies as approaching your job as a business. I would be willing to forget the affair, but using your position of power to get your mistress a job with the school just shows that BP is wreck less and stupid. This is why he cannot be Auburn's next coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheTigers 0 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I watch football just like you do, just so happens my opinion differs from yours. I will be the first one to walk Chizik out the door, pack for him, whatever he needs to hit the road but I do not see Petrino as the savior of Auburn football nor do I see him as the best choice we have. JMHO There is no option more proven. The rest are an utter roll of the dice. We know Petrino can win n this league even with lesser players because he coaches them up. Get him the knd of talent upgrade he'd have at Auburn and a good DC and the sky's the limit. Given Petrino's past behavior, I would think he would also be considered a roll of the dice and a risky proposition at best. If Auburn hires him they are messing with fire. If anything it's the opposite. He knows that if he gets another shot at a big time program he cannot screw it up or his career is literally finished. Plus his sin was made public. He was forced to deal with it rather than pretend it doesn't exist. And finally, we are in a unique position to put more accountability and other protections in place than any normal coach would ever have to accept. The rest are a roll of the dice on the field, which is what we are ultimately hiring them for. I just dont buy into what you're line of thinking. It's a fact that Petrino has rarely left anywhere on good terms and he certainly doesn't appear to have learned from his past mistakes. If he's hired, there will be empty seats and funding issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I watch football just like you do, just so happens my opinion differs from yours. I will be the first one to walk Chizik out the door, pack for him, whatever he needs to hit the road but I do not see Petrino as the savior of Auburn football nor do I see him as the best choice we have. JMHO There is no option more proven. The rest are an utter roll of the dice. We know Petrino can win n this league even with lesser players because he coaches them up. Get him the knd of talent upgrade he'd have at Auburn and a good DC and the sky's the limit. Given Petrino's past behavior, I would think he would also be considered a roll of the dice and a risky proposition at best. If Auburn hires him they are messing with fire. If anything it's the opposite. He knows that if he gets another shot at a big time program he cannot screw it up or his career is literally finished. Plus his sin was made public. He was forced to deal with it rather than pretend it doesn't exist. And finally, we are in a unique position to put more accountability and other protections in place than any normal coach would ever have to accept. The rest are a roll of the dice on the field, which is what we are ultimately hiring them for. I just dont buy into what you're line of thinking. It's a fact that Petrino has rarely left anywhere on good terms and he certainly doesn't appear to have learned from his past mistakes. If he's hired, there will be empty seats and funding issues. Only if he loses. And deep down, you know this is true. You want empty seats and funding issues, take another flyer on the nice guy and watch him get pummeled by Saban, Richt, Muschamp, Miles and Spurrier. And possibly Petrino at Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksrc 4 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I agree Titan. No one will give a rat's rear if Petrino wins. I know bammer fans that didn't like Saban, but now they stay in a permanent bowing motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeCampAlum 335 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Cmon guys, it's not an either-or. Petrino has accomplished more than most other possible candidates (assuming Patterson & Peterson are unavailable). But that does not mean he's Auburn's only hope. History solidly proves the contrary. You think Petrino's the best bet? I can understand that. If you'd acknowledge that he also comes with serious risks, you'd be a lot more persuasive. When you say he's learned his lesson, that just means you don't take the risks seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksrc 4 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Does anyone think that Peterson may be another Hawkins? Successful at BSU, gets a bigger and better gig (well I doubt that COlorado is bigger or better), then on to the ESPN retirement home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheTigers 0 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I watch football just like you do, just so happens my opinion differs from yours. I will be the first one to walk Chizik out the door, pack for him, whatever he needs to hit the road but I do not see Petrino as the savior of Auburn football nor do I see him as the best choice we have. JMHO There is no option more proven. The rest are an utter roll of the dice. We know Petrino can win n this league even with lesser players because he coaches them up. Get him the knd of talent upgrade he'd have at Auburn and a good DC and the sky's the limit. Given Petrino's past behavior, I would think he would also be considered a roll of the dice and a risky proposition at best. If Auburn hires him they are messing with fire. If anything it's the opposite. He knows that if he gets another shot at a big time program he cannot screw it up or his career is literally finished. Plus his sin was made public. He was forced to deal with it rather than pretend it doesn't exist. And finally, we are in a unique position to put more accountability and other protections in place than any normal coach would ever have to accept. The rest are a roll of the dice on the field, which is what we are ultimately hiring them for. I just dont buy into what you're line of thinking. It's a fact that Petrino has rarely left anywhere on good terms and he certainly doesn't appear to have learned from his past mistakes. If he's hired, there will be empty seats and funding issues. Only if he loses. And deep down, you know this is true. You want empty seats and funding issues, take another flyer on the nice guy and watch him get pummeled by Saban, Richt, Muschamp, Miles and Spurrier. And possibly Petrino at Tennessee. I would rather have a coach with integrity than sell out to the devil. I'm an alum and season ticket holder and I know many others that feel the same way that I do. We all dearly love Auburn and are prepared to exercise tough love and forfeit our ticket priorities of that's what it takes to make our point. Auburn can't afford the fallout that will surely occur if he is hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Cmon guys, it's not an either-or. Petrino has accomplished more than most other possible candidates (assuming Patterson & Peterson are unavailable). But that does not mean he's Auburn's only hope. History solidly proves the contrary. You think Petrino's the best bet? I can understand that. If you'd acknowledge that he also comes with serious risks, you'd be a lot more persuasive. When you say he's learned his lesson, that just means you don't take the risks seriously. History is mixed. Dye worked out great, though we did know he had SEC experience under Bear. Bowden started great and flamed out leaving the cupboard bare from years of bad recruiting. Chizik caught lightning in a bottle and now has us staring at a winless SEC season and is only a hail Mary pass at the end of the half from having us 0-8 right now and in total disarray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Patrino is a football coach. And he takes football very serious and goes to work at his job. Its a business and he approaches it that way i think. I don't think banging your mistress and giving her a job in the athletic department exactly qualifies as approaching your job as a business. I would be willing to forget the affair, but using your position of power to get your mistress a job with the school just shows that BP is wreck less and stupid. This is why he cannot be Auburn's next coach. Nah -- that was Petrino who had the motorcycle wreck with his mistress. AF72 is talking about Patrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopsing 583 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I watch football just like you do, just so happens my opinion differs from yours. I will be the first one to walk Chizik out the door, pack for him, whatever he needs to hit the road but I do not see Petrino as the savior of Auburn football nor do I see him as the best choice we have. JMHO There is no option more proven. The rest are an utter roll of the dice. We know Petrino can win n this league even with lesser players because he coaches them up. Get him the knd of talent upgrade he'd have at Auburn and a good DC and the sky's the limit. Given Petrino's past behavior, I would think he would also be considered a roll of the dice and a risky proposition at best. If Auburn hires him they are messing with fire. If anything it's the opposite. He knows that if he gets another shot at a big time program he cannot screw it up or his career is literally finished. Plus his sin was made public. He was forced to deal with it rather than pretend it doesn't exist. And finally, we are in a unique position to put more accountability and other protections in place than any normal coach would ever have to accept. The rest are a roll of the dice on the field, which is what we are ultimately hiring them for. I just dont buy into what you're line of thinking. It's a fact that Petrino has rarely left anywhere on good terms and he certainly doesn't appear to have learned from his past mistakes. If he's hired, there will be empty seats and funding issues. Only if he loses. And deep down, you know this is true. You want empty seats and funding issues, take another flyer on the nice guy and watch him get pummeled by Saban, Richt, Muschamp, Miles and Spurrier. And possibly Petrino at Tennessee. I would rather have a coach with integrity than sell out to the devil. I'm an alum and season ticket holder and I know many others that feel the same way that I do. We all dearly love Auburn and are prepared to exercise tough love and forfeit our ticket priorities of that's what it takes to make our point. Auburn can't afford the fallout that will surely occur if he is hired. I would like to see if Greg Schiano is interested in returning to college football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southga tiger 0 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I think Peterson would be the real deal he would be one of the coaches i would go after i would bet not another Hawkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jrljr Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I watch football just like you do, just so happens my opinion differs from yours. I will be the first one to walk Chizik out the door, pack for him, whatever he needs to hit the road but I do not see Petrino as the savior of Auburn football nor do I see him as the best choice we have. JMHO There is no option more proven. The rest are an utter roll of the dice. We know Petrino can win n this league even with lesser players because he coaches them up. Get him the knd of talent upgrade he'd have at Auburn and a good DC and the sky's the limit. Given Petrino's past behavior, I would think he would also be considered a roll of the dice and a risky proposition at best. If Auburn hires him they are messing with fire. If anything it's the opposite. He knows that if he gets another shot at a big time program he cannot screw it up or his career is literally finished. Plus his sin was made public. He was forced to deal with it rather than pretend it doesn't exist. And finally, we are in a unique position to put more accountability and other protections in place than any normal coach would ever have to accept. The rest are a roll of the dice on the field, which is what we are ultimately hiring them for. I just dont buy into what you're line of thinking. It's a fact that Petrino has rarely left anywhere on good terms and he certainly doesn't appear to have learned from his past mistakes. If he's hired, there will be empty seats and funding issues. Only if he loses. And deep down, you know this is true. You want empty seats and funding issues, take another flyer on the nice guy and watch him get pummeled by Saban, Richt, Muschamp, Miles and Spurrier. And possibly Petrino at Tennessee. I would rather have a coach with integrity than sell out to the devil. I'm an alum and season ticket holder and I know many others that feel the same way that I do. We all dearly love Auburn and are prepared to exercise tough love and forfeit our ticket priorities of that's what it takes to make our point. Auburn can't afford the fallout that will surely occur if he is hired. A-FREAKING-MEN!!! TT and whoever else, give it up. Petrino has won exactly ZERO championships. He never will either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdburger 37 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How about Pete Carroll ? Experienced. Good Recruiter. Beat us twice when we had a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger25 29 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How about Pete Carroll ? Experienced. Good Recruiter. Beat us twice when we had a good team. Don't believe he will leave the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWALTIGER 1 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I say give Willie Taggart a look. I think he could energize the program quickly. A roll of the dice yeah but what candidate out there isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeCampAlum 335 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Odd to mention Bowden in a negative light. He accomplished quite a bit at Auburn, over a longer period of time than Petrino has won anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southga tiger 0 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Peterson, Fedora, Malzahn, Rich Rod, Gundy, Mark Helfrick, (oc at Oregon), or the oc for the Carolina Panthers would be a solid list to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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