cole256 17,057 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 JMO. What I've seen is slow get off. Seems like the opposing oline is in our face before were out of our stance. These guys (excluding Adams and Russell at times) just don't seem to have the mean streak it takes to play dline in the SEC. Maybe its there and coaches just haven't found it yet but until we start to fire off the ball looking to rip heads off rather than stand up and catch blockers we will continue to struggle. The part about lack of a mean streak can be said about our oline as well. IMO You gotta have some serious dog in you to play up front. You have to outfight and outwork the other guy on every play. I don't see any dogs out there for us. I don't see anyone that demands a double team or anyone the other coach would point out on film and highlight as a priority for blocking schemes. Technique is important but you gotta just whip the other guy's butt to be a good DL. Monty, but only Monty. T think Russell has played well. Our d ends aren't good. We don't have any fast twitch athletes at d end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 JMO. What I've seen is slow get off. Seems like the opposing oline is in our face before were out of our stance. These guys (excluding Adams and Russell at times) just don't seem to have the mean streak it takes to play dline in the SEC. Maybe its there and coaches just haven't found it yet but until we start to fire off the ball looking to rip heads off rather than stand up and catch blockers we will continue to struggle. The part about lack of a mean streak can be said about our oline as well. IMO You gotta have some serious dog in you to play up front. You have to outfight and outwork the other guy on every play. I don't see any dogs out there for us. I don't see anyone that demands a double team or anyone the other coach would point out on film and highlight as a priority for blocking schemes. Technique is important but you gotta just whip the other guy's butt to be a good DL. Monty, but only Monty. T think Russell has played well. Our d ends aren't good. We don't have any fast twitch athletes at d end. Muschamp has said that Cowart's playing well, but who knows if that's just to placate him or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnNTexas 7,142 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 JMO. What I've seen is slow get off. Seems like the opposing oline is in our face before were out of our stance. These guys (excluding Adams and Russell at times) just don't seem to have the mean streak it takes to play dline in the SEC. Maybe its there and coaches just haven't found it yet but until we start to fire off the ball looking to rip heads off rather than stand up and catch blockers we will continue to struggle. The part about lack of a mean streak can be said about our oline as well. IMO You gotta have some serious dog in you to play up front. You have to outfight and outwork the other guy on every play. I don't see any dogs out there for us. I don't see anyone that demands a double team or anyone the other coach would point out on film and highlight as a priority for blocking schemes. Technique is important but you gotta just whip the other guy's butt to be a good DL. Monty, but only Monty. T think Russell has played well. Our d ends aren't good. We don't have any fast twitch athletes at d end. Muschamp has said that Cowart's playing well, but who knows if that's just to placate him or what. I think it means he is playing well for a freshman learning the SEC game not that he is playing well compared to more experienced players. My opinion I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 JMO. What I've seen is slow get off. Seems like the opposing oline is in our face before were out of our stance. These guys (excluding Adams and Russell at times) just don't seem to have the mean streak it takes to play dline in the SEC. Maybe its there and coaches just haven't found it yet but until we start to fire off the ball looking to rip heads off rather than stand up and catch blockers we will continue to struggle. The part about lack of a mean streak can be said about our oline as well. IMO You gotta have some serious dog in you to play up front. You have to outfight and outwork the other guy on every play. I don't see any dogs out there for us. I don't see anyone that demands a double team or anyone the other coach would point out on film and highlight as a priority for blocking schemes. Technique is important but you gotta just whip the other guy's butt to be a good DL. Monty, but only Monty. T think Russell has played well. Our d ends aren't good. We don't have any fast twitch athletes at d end. Muschamp has said that Cowart's playing well, but who knows if that's just to placate him or what. I think it means he is playing well for a freshman learning the SEC game not that he is playing well compared to more experienced players. My opinion I could be wrong. i think you are right. but i think he and all of us wrongfully expected more from Cowart. Not his fault. so he may also be placating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareagleinfl 0 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 RG needs to stop worrying about the "decommitting process" for top recruits and needs to start worrying about stopping the run between the tackles and creating a pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,057 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weagl1 1,784 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I just want Rocker back. Rodney just needs to be the head recruiter and let a mean SOB take over actually teaching them how to play like mean SOB's on the interior DL. We need some Fairley's in the middle of the defense. Playing DL in the SEC takes a mean streak and even though we have one very talented player (Monty) none of them look like they are mean enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuGrad2004 100 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I just want Rocker back. Rodney just needs to be the head recruiter and let a mean SOB take over actually teaching them how to play like mean SOB's on the interior DL. We need some Fairley's in the middle of the defense. Playing DL in the SEC takes a mean streak and even though we have one very talented player (Monty) none of them look like they are mean enough. Rockers D line looked good against Bama.......... (Sarcasm font) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,057 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yeah but sarcasm our d line looked good against jax and San Jose st....Alabama is a barometer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,122 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I just want Rocker back. Rodney just needs to be the head recruiter and let a mean SOB take over actually teaching them how to play like mean SOB's on the interior DL. We need some Fairley's in the middle of the defense. Playing DL in the SEC takes a mean streak and even though we have one very talented player (Monty) none of them look like they are mean enough. Don't think you'll see Rocker back in Auburn for a long time. jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 1,791 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Braden Smith was an outstanding D lineman in high school and I'm entertaining a thought that he may be needed there next season more than on the O line. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNBham 3 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We all just need to be patient. We want a fast quick fix and it is not going to be this year or several. We can ride a roller coaster like we have but the lows really hurt as much as the highs feel good. Keeping a staff intact and not an ad hoc staff like we have sometimes had, recruit to match our school as well as our team schemes, and not depend upon freshmen as we have out of desperation done in the past are good starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,073 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It is getting harder and harder for people like me to defend RG. Just not impressed with what he has brought from recruiting, to development, to their play on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,823 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 2013 seemed like an upgrade across the board from the staff that was previously in place. Dee Ford really helped that DL out throughout the entire season coming up with timely sacks and big plays. But since then it has been a pretty ugly showing by the DL. And we have had Ford, Blackson, and Gabe Wright who are all on NFL rosters right now. I don't think Blackson or Wright showed they could be good NFL players but the NFL doesn't agree with this. So one has to wonder why weren't they showing their NFL abilities on Saturdays? If he's not coaching the DL very well then he should be at least killing it on the recruiting trail but that doesn't seem to be the case either. Lets hope he turns it around in some capacity at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan 1,240 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 For years Auburn had some truly great DO 's. But ever since Muschamp left, not only has our FL sucked, but our overall defense as well. Hopefully, Muschamp will stay long enough to get this mess cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUIH1 1,515 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I just want Rocker back. Rodney just needs to be the head recruiter and let a mean SOB take over actually teaching them how to play like mean SOB's on the interior DL. We need some Fairley's in the middle of the defense. Playing DL in the SEC takes a mean streak and even though we have one very talented player (Monty) none of them look like they are mean enough. Don't think you'll see Rocker back in Auburn for a long time. jmo Agree. I really wanted Muschamp to bring his DL coach from UF with him last season. wde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU80cruiser 1,102 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 If Garner is let go who would be a good DL coach to go after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looney 794 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'll add to that question. I'm not necessarily in the "fire Garner" camp. But I see poor DL play and obviously the recruiting signs aren't good. That said... IF CWM deems Garner the problem and decides to let him go, do we benefit from doing it sooner than later? Giving over DL duties to someone else on staff? Are there any good unemployed candidates out there now? (Honest question, but maybe a stupid one, and I'm okay with that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslider 6 269 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'll add to that question. I'm not necessarily in the "fire Garner" camp. But I see poor DL play and obviously the recruiting signs aren't good. That said... IF CWM deems Garner the problem and decides to let him go, do we benefit from doing it sooner than later? Giving over DL duties to someone else on staff? Are there any good unemployed candidates out there now? (Honest question, but maybe a stupid one, and I'm okay with that.) I believe the answer to the Garner question/problem is to allow Muschamp to solve this problem. He needs to be the one who decides who he wants on the DL. I trust him to make the right decision, because i believe he makes that kind of decision based on what's best for the defense/team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnSpider 2 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Pelton and Garner back to back has created a big problem for our Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeCampAlum 335 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I don't know if it's coaching. But I'm watching Mizzou and Florida, both of whom always put on a pass rush. And it's been years since our guys could get off blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUIH1 1,515 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I don't know if it's coaching. But I'm watching Mizzou and Florida, both of whom always put on a pass rush. And it's been years since our guys could get off blocks. It is coaching. wde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I don't know if it's coaching. But I'm watching Mizzou and Florida, both of whom always put on a pass rush. And it's been years since our guys could get off blocks. Missouri's DL coach is very impressive. Multiple standout guys seemingly every year...guys going on to the NFL. Its not like they're loading up on 5-star recruits either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeCampAlum 335 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hell, Arkansas graduated everybody, and they're getting a pass rush and getting off blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,364 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I don't know if it's coaching. But I'm watching Mizzou and Florida, both of whom always put on a pass rush. And it's been years since our guys could get off blocks. Missouri's DL coach is very impressive. Multiple standout guys seemingly every year...guys going on to the NFL. Its not like they're loading up on 5-star recruits either. So basically, we need to look into hiring their DL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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