The terrorist have won

[japantiger 4,051]

23 minutes ago, AURaptor said:

 

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

35 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Elle, your post is factually inaccurate.  There is no muslim ban.  There is no reference to any religion in the order....and it is virtually the same as Obama's 2011 order that restricted immigration from Iraq....Get the facts correct before you make a statement.  You're no better than Homey and USN in this regard.  This restricts immigration from a handful of countries...Muslims from Turkey, Indonesia, Egypt and Saudi Arabia face no ban...those are the largest muslim countries on earth. 

While we are talking about facts, September 11 is mentioned three times in the order. All the attackers on that day were from Saudi Arabia, yet no ban on people coming from that country. Why is that? The answer is found in Trump's business deals. 

You can split hairs over my word choice but even Trump has said his order is a ban. 

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

16 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said:

I didn't hear you complaining when Obama had restrictions on how many Christian refugees could come from Muslim countries.

I've only been here a year. 

[japantiger 4,051]

Just now, GiveEmElle said:

While we are talking about facts, September 11 is mentioned three times in the order. All the attackers on that day were from Saudi Arabia, yet no ban on people coming from that country. Why is that? The answer is found in Trump's business deals. 

You can split hairs over my word choice but even Trump has said his order is a ban. 

Of course it is a ban...on people from a handful of countries....but not on Muslims...you see, we are still accepting Muslims from the largest Muslim countries on the planet....a little quick math says the countries involved represent less than 8% of Muslims worldwide...(there's 1.2B muslims; ~100m in the countries of the temporary, yes, temporary ban)...so, how can this be a muslim ban?...please let me know when you untangle that one.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

[AURaptor 1,123]

1 hour ago, GiveEmElle said:

What's amazing is how the right wing nuts can't see that banning a religion sets a dangerous precedent. Next guy that is elected might not like Christians. You aren't Muslim so it doesn't bother you, but what if one day its you they decide to come after?

When Christians start doing what Muslims are doing, in the name of JESUS,  not just in the Middle East, but in Africa and ALL ACROSS THE FREAKING PLANET, then yes, start banning them as well. 

Got anything else ? 

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

14 minutes ago, japantiger said:

Of course it is a ban...on people from a handful of countries....but not on Muslims...you see, we are still accepting Muslims from the largest Muslim countries on the planet....a little quick math says the countries involved represent less than 8% of Muslims worldwide...(there's 1.2B muslims; ~100m in the countries of the temporary, yes, temporary ban)...so, how can this be a muslim ban?...please let me know when you untangle that one.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

I'm sorry. I guess I misunderstood Trump. 

 

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27 minutes ago, AURaptor said:

When Christians start doing what Muslims are doing, in the name of JESUS,  not just in the Middle East, but in Africa and ALL ACROSS THE FREAKING PLANET, then yes, start banning them as well. 

Got anything else ? 

But most definitely not a Muslim ban...

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Nearly 39,000 Muslim refugees entered the U.S. in fiscal 2016, the highest number on record. Muslims made up nearly half (46%) of refugee admissions, a higher share than for Christians, who accounted for 44% of refugees admitted. Muslims exceeded Christians on this measure for the first time since 2006, when a large number of Somali refugees entered the U.S.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/27/key-facts-about-refugees-to-the-u-s/

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[AURaptor 1,123]

What did they win again ? 

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“The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations And Religions; whom we shall welcome to a participation of all our rights and privileges, if by decency and proprie” George Washington

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http://www.vox.com/2017/1/28/14426586/iranian-researcher-barred-us

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War Eagle Tim!

 

[RunInRed 16,409]

This is working out well ...

 

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

The Statue of Liberty needs to go. 

The plaque at the base of the Statue of Liberty reads: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[GiveEmElle 1,559]

 

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[japantiger 4,051]

5 minutes ago, AUUSN said:

“The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations And Religions; whom we shall welcome to a participation of all our rights and privileges, if by decency and proprie” George Washington

Oh, let's see, where does he say let in those that are xenophobic, racist, religiously intolerant, murder gays because their gays, mistreat women, favor genital mutilation, etc., etc., etc.,?

 

1 hour ago, GiveEmElle said:

I'm sorry. I guess I misunderstood Trump. 

 

So help me out here...a 6 month old film clip has exactly what to do with the Actual Order he just signed?  Again, I'm trying to deal with real life facts here...apparently, that is problematic for you guys....let's do a reality check...temporary,  allows for exceptions like interpreters, case of life and death, etc., makes no mention of any religion, impacts a population of ~100m people from these 7 countries; that means has no impact on immigration status of the other 1.1B muslims, without regard to religion....reality.... 

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Alt-righties be like:

A gun ban won't reduce violence but a Muslim ban will reduce terrorism...

[AURaptor 1,123]

17 minutes ago, AUUSN said:

War Eagle Tim!

 

Or near slave labor in other countries, but hey, what ever. 

[AURaptor 1,123]

1 minute ago, AUUSN said:

Alt-righties be like:

A gun ban won't reduce violence but a Muslim ban will reduce terrorism...

Do you have a right to keep and bear your own Muslim? 

 

Idiot. 

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[GiveEmElle 1,559]

Trump campaigns on a Muslim ban, becomes President, signs an order banning people from 7 predominately Muslim countries. He cites 9/11 as the reason yet there is no ban on those countries. He told CBN that Christians would get top  priority. No regard to religion? Guess I can't argue with your alternative facts. 

[AURaptor 1,123]

Not 1 US soldier died from a result of the devices made in Iran  ? 

 

REALLY ? 

#fakestats 

 

Oh, wait...

 

At least 500 U.S. military deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan were directly linked to Iran and its support for anti-American militants — a newly disclosed statistic that offers grim context for the Obama administration's diplomatic deal with the Iranian regime aimed at curtailing the rogue nation's nuclear ambitions.

That figure underscores the controversy surrounding Washington's deal with Tehran, a long-sought goal for the president — but one that is fiercely opposed by many Republicans in Congress and other critics.

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/capitol-hill/2015/07/14/iran-linked-to-deaths-of-500-us-troops-in-iraq-afghanistan/30131097/

 

 

[japantiger 4,051]

1 minute ago, GiveEmElle said:

Trump campaigns on a Muslim ban, becomes President, signs an order banning people from 7 predominately Muslim countries. He cites 9/11 as the reason yet there is no ban on those countries. He told CBN that Christians would get top  priority. No regard to religion? Guess I can't argue with your alternative facts. 

Campaign vs reality...you surely understand that concept....you know, if you like your Dr....if you like your policy, etc...read the law; you went to Auburn....