DKW 86 7,431 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Trump's Hush Money Payment Was Done Illegally, With Campaign Cash I find it hilarious that Trump could actually be Impeached AND Removed for Financial Crapola. I am fine as frog hair with him gone and the idea that running around with whores is the issue AND he was so cheap he used campaign funds to pay them off...too damn funny! In all honesty, I hope that this re-establishes the standard in Washington DC. I have 1000% Faith that the Clintons violated the same laws dozens if not hundreds of times. Maybe, going forward we actually get pols that abide by the law rather than look to see how many times they can run the hell over it. I laughed at the idea of getting rid of Trump like getting getting rid of Capone, not for what he did, but for tax evasion of campaign finance laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, DKW 86 said: In all honesty, I hope that this re-establishes the standard in Washington DC. This. Politicians, whether left or right, need to be held to the same legal standards as the citizenry. An argument can be made that they should be held to higher standards. The party that can demonstrate that corruption among it's members is not tolerated should win the day. At this moment, the Democrats are doing a better job of that. I believe that is why the did do well in the midterms. The GOP could alter this by dealing with Trump's load of corruption. Outside of the current administration's woes what actions should the legislative body take to ensure greater levels of transparency, scrutiny and enforcement as it relates to corruption in government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,431 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Enforce the damn laws. If this was a Democrat, I am loathe to tell you that A LARGE CHUNK OF THE PRESS WOULD EXCUSE IT OR NOT CARE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 38 minutes ago, DKW 86 said: Enforce the damn laws. If this was a Democrat, I am loathe to tell you that the press would not care. Depends on the press. Fox is an MSM outlet whether conservatives consider it so or not. You can be damn sure this level of corruption would receive wall to wall coverage on Fox if the president were a Democrat, and rightly so. I doubt CNN would in that scenario, but this level of corruption in the executive branch is fairly unprecedented and we don't truly have a previous real world litmus test to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Trump's Hush Money Payment Was Done Illegally, With Campaign Cash I'm not a lawyer but a lot of them disagree. Time will tell but at this time I don't know that it is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDavE 332 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 John Edwards say hey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, WDavE said: John Edwards say hey! I wonder if CNN covered JE's sexual and financial dalliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, HVAU said: Depends on the press. Fox is an MSM outlet whether conservatives consider it so or not. You can be damn sure this level of corruption would receive wall to wall coverage on Fox if the president were a Democrat, and rightly so. I doubt CNN would in that scenario, but this level of corruption in the executive branch is fairly unprecedented and we don't truly have a previous real world litmus test to know. I think this is important to note. There are members of the Nixon administration consistently saying that what is going on here is a bigger deal than Watergate. Now with the explosion of media outlets and consumption in the intervening 40+ years, there really isn't a litmus test for how media should/would have reacted. It's a new world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/10/edwards.coverage/ First article up. Interesting to compare, but we're dealing with coverage after a report from the National Enquirer v. coverage after public statements by the participants in the affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, HVAU said: I wonder if CNN covered JE's sexual and financial dalliances. Unequivocally yes. Just a few links that I've found and skimmed so far. http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/25/edwards.fall/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/24/politics/john-edwards-trial/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2012/05/31/living/edwards-and-cheating/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: I think this is important to note. There are members of the Nixon administration consistently saying that what is going on here is a bigger deal than Watergate. Now with the explosion of media outlets and consumption in the intervening 40+ years, there really isn't a litmus test for how media should/would have reacted. It's a new world. The Slow Burn podcasts on Watergate and Bill Clinton are really interesting. A lot of it has to do with media coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,431 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, WDavE said: John Edwards say hey! True... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Trump's Hush Money Payment Was Done Illegally, With Campaign Cash I find it hilarious that Trump could actually be Impeached AND Removed for Financial Crapola. I am fine as frog hair with him gone and the idea that running around with whores is the issue AND he was so cheap he used campaign funds to pay them off...too damn funny! In all honesty, I hope that this re-establishes the standard in Washington DC. I have 1000% Faith that the Clintons violated the same laws dozens if not hundreds of times. Maybe, going forward we actually get pols that abide by the law rather than look to see how many times they can run the hell over it. I laughed at the idea of getting rid of Trump like getting getting rid of Capone, not for what he did, but for tax evasion of campaign finance laws. Slippery slope but it’s past time that waste of taxpayer dollars (Washington D.C.) did something constructive with all this borrowed cash over the last couple of decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, HVAU said: Depends on the press. Fox is an MSM outlet whether conservatives consider it so or not. You can be damn sure this level of corruption would receive wall to wall coverage on Fox if the president were a Democrat, and rightly so. I doubt CNN would in that scenario, but this level of corruption in the executive branch is fairly unprecedented and we don't truly have a previous real world litmus test to know. You must not have watched CNN during the days up to the election. All they talked about was Clinton emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,431 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 47 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: You must not have watched CNN during the days up to the election. All they talked about was Clinton emails. Talking About in no way = Criminal Prosecution. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, DKW 86 said: Talking About in no way = Criminal Prosecution. Not even close. I think you missed my point. CNN covers democrats wrongdoing just as it does the GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: You must not have watched CNN during the days up to the election. All they talked about was Clinton emails. I did. I was using Edwards as it is most similar to this specific Trump scenario. I agree that CNN has offered negative press for the Clinton's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,158 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 This a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Talking About in no way = Criminal Prosecution. Not even close. CNN doesn’t have the authority to criminally prosecute.🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, AUDub said: This a big deal. Not to Trump supporters or Fox News. I was watching a little bit of a Fox news panel today while working out at the gym. They kept insisting that nothing Cohen has admitted to implicated Trump in any way. In fact, they totally blamed Cohen for not advising Trump what they were doing was illegal. Riiiiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, homersapien said: Not to Trump supporters or Fox News. I was watching a little bit of a Fox news panel today while working out at the gym. They kept insisting that nothing Cohen has admitted to implicated Trump in any way. In fact, they totally blamed Cohen for not advising Trump what they were doing was illegal. Riiiiiight. Stop the damn press. The gym? HFS. Proud of you man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, AUDub said: This a big deal. Agree. Can't be good. And for the record, why a Playboy model or a porn star? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,221 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said: Agree. Can't be good. And for the record, why a Playboy model or a porn star? I don't get it. Really I can explain it in a PM ..............also could be a bad joke "did you hear about the Playboy model and porn star who went into a bar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, augolf1716 said: Really I can explain it in a PM ..............also could be a bad joke "did you hear about the Playboy model and porn star who went into a bar" Awesome. If I am honest, I've traveled the world. Trust me, I get it. A little tongue in cheek never hurt right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,221 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said: Awesome. If I am honest, I've traveled the world. Trust me, I get it. A little tongue in cheek never hurt right? Does dating a stripper work???? At least I didn't have to pay hush money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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